RE: Fisker Ocean Ultra: the ultimate bargain EV?
RE: Fisker Ocean Ultra: the ultimate bargain EV?
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Fisker Ocean Ultra: the ultimate bargain EV?

And if not, does such a thing even exist with HMRC now closing in?


Surely nothing speaks to the topsy-turvy-ness of the 2025 car market like the sight of a discontinued electric SUV for sale at a dealer outwardly concerned with used Lotuses. It’s like buying a roast dinner from an ice cream van. Or, if you prefer, a dead parrot from a Blockbuster store. Certainly, you’d need a good reason to even consider it. Assuming, of course, you’re not automatically endowed with the kind of bravery needed to storm a machine gun post. 

The reasoning here, much as it was when we last considered the prospect of buying a Fisker Ocean, is value for money. Thanks to its maker dissolving like powered sugar in boiling water, the electric SUV has suffered the kind of depreciation that holders of US mortgage bonds would recognise from 2008. What was once an expensive object of desire is now something of a cautionary tale, making even the £18,750 asked for this example seem optimistic.

We say that on the basis that the previous Ocean we thrust under the PH spotlight was valued at £16,990 and hadn’t even covered 500 miles. This one has clocked up more than 8k since last year. The difference is in the amount of bang you’re getting for your buck: the other example was the front-wheel drive cooking model that could barely summon up 300hp. You’re looking at the dual-motor Ultra, which delivers a far more lively 544hp and 0-62mph in 4.2 seconds. 

Moreover, and probably more importantly, different battery chemistry meant the EPA expected the mid-tier model to manage 350 miles between charges (considerably further than the entry-level model). In other words, it was very much in the mould of the whizz-bang electric SUVs we’ve become accustomed to, and while the Touring Sport could be bought for £36,900 when it launched, the Ultra was originally priced at £50,900 before Fisker pulled the rug from under its 22-inch wheels. That’s a long way from £18k. 

It is then, undeniably, a lot of tech for not very much. And reports from last year suggest the Ocean, built in Austria by Magna Steyr, was perfectly respectable to drive. It did play host to some electrical gremlins, mind - and, of course, you’d now be purchasing it without any manufacturer support whatsoever and only a friendly owner’s club to fall back on. To call it a leap of faith is probably understating it. Last summer, while reporting on Fisker’s demise, Autocar noted that a nearly-new Ocean Extreme was being offered for £28k. It’s hard to imagine the trajectory flattening out anytime soon. 

Added to all that, there’s now the prospect of 3p-per-mile road duty in the pipeline; not necessarily a problem for the kind of high-end EV buyers that Fisker was originally targeting, but most definitely food for thought when it comes to scoring yourself a bargain very near the basement. Is the Ocean Ultra that? And if it isn’t, could any secondhand electric car truly be said to qualify? After all, the prospect of a £10k, ten-year-old Tesla Model S comes with its own assortment of ownership peccadillos. Answers on a postcard. 


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Tom1312

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1,136 posts

165 months

Yesterday (06:59)
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I know inflation is a killer but I'm not sure we're really at a point where shed has got to up the budget to £18k are we....?

Robertb

3,026 posts

257 months

Yesterday (07:04)
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Return of Brave Pill.

The battery and raw materials must be worth something.

Would be fun if you don’t mind doing your own software fixes using patches from the owners club.

ChocolateFrog

33,690 posts

192 months

Yesterday (07:04)
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It's maybe worth half that as a big gamble.

biggbn

28,853 posts

239 months

Yesterday (07:04)
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I think these are cracking looking big motors. I doubt any of the mechanical bits will be bespoke to the brand, you'd think an innovative mechanic and EV tech would mange to keep one of these keepin' on...lots of desirable older cars are no longer supported by a manufacturer and people manage due to owners clubs and specialist firms...

stavr0ss

258 posts

147 months

Yesterday (07:13)
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I saw a fisker karma gliding around honfleur a few years back. It looked fantastic in the metal and almost perfectly suited the place (alongside the 508 that seemingly lived in front of the wooden church and various twingos and twizys that lined the backstreets)
It’s a pity these boondoggles will be most people’s only reference to the brand.

SpeckledJim

31,832 posts

272 months

Yesterday (07:20)
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biggbn said:
I think these are cracking looking big motors. I doubt any of the mechanical bits will be bespoke to the brand, you'd think an innovative mechanic and EV tech would mange to keep one of these keepin' on...lots of desirable older cars are no longer supported by a manufacturer and people manage due to owners clubs and specialist firms...
Lose or break the key? Replacements simply not available. Your brand new car is now an ornament.

That was the case a year ago anyway. I don’t know if it has changed.

CT05 Nose Cone

25,698 posts

246 months

Yesterday (07:23)
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Nothing says saving the planet like a 2.5 tonne SUV that's one software fault away from the scrap yard.

nismo48

5,830 posts

226 months

Yesterday (07:39)
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Jasey_ said:
CT05 Nose Cone said:
Nothing says saving the planet like a 2.5 tonne SUV that's one software fault away from the scrap yard.
Best post i think I've ever seen on pistonheads.
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Familymad

1,586 posts

236 months

Yesterday (07:51)
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Seen a couple on the road and it’s not a bad looking thing. Looked like a modern Freelander to me.

I like risk but this is right up there ringing my alarm bell.

Amanitin

498 posts

156 months

Yesterday (07:52)
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CT05 Nose Cone said:
Nothing says saving the planet like a 2.5 tonne SUV that's one software fault away from the scrap yard.
and that is why vendors should be forced to open source the software of any product they quit supporting

Augustus Windsock

3,684 posts

174 months

Yesterday (07:53)
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For those of you that remember the character Buster Gonad, from Viz, I think that sums up the profile of the vehicles next victim. Sorry, owner…

ChocolateFrog

33,690 posts

192 months

Yesterday (08:02)
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Those wheels look enormous, they look like 24's rather than 22's.

Bill

56,555 posts

274 months

Yesterday (08:05)
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SpeckledJim said:
Lose or break the key? Replacements simply not available. Your brand new car is now an ornament.

That was the case a year ago anyway. I don t know if it has changed.
Or a broken headlight...

Turbobanana

7,574 posts

220 months

Yesterday (08:26)
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I wonder what the dealer paid for it...

griffsomething

354 posts

180 months

Yesterday (08:31)
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Surely the cheap star of speedy evs is the MG4 Xpower thing? I’ve seen one for £17k. 0-60 in 3.8. 430 bhp. Balance of 7 year warranty remaining.

It’s not something I’d ever covet, but if you just want cheap EV performance that’s worth a thought surely.

m62tu

113 posts

58 months

Yesterday (08:34)
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Good design but Henrik Fisker would make it into list of top 10 idiots of the 21st century.

Familymad

1,586 posts

236 months

Yesterday (08:36)
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I think you’d be bonkers to take this over a Tesla at the same cash. Proved reliability and battery longevity plus dealer backup and spares.
The sweet spot of circa £20k EV’s is a Model 3 or Y.

RSEV on uTube has a 150k mile M3 and just got a 209k MY ex taxi. Both are amazing for wear, battery range and feel like cars a quarter of the miles. I’m also surprised how well the interiors wear. They just don’t show usage like leather and fabrics have done in the past.

scenario8

7,436 posts

198 months

Yesterday (08:36)
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It was a curious choice to buy new when the company was operational. As noted above it carries a hell of a risk now the manufacturer/dealer support is absent. You might take on an old jalopy from a left field and defunct brand but this is a bit much!

The likely depreciation on a year old Polestar 3 is ten grand a year or so? Seems a fair comparison. Would I value it at around ten grand, then? I dunno. I wouldn’t value it at ten of my thousands, thanks.

Come to think of it I think you could lease a similar and new Polestar 3 for comfortably less than that (per year) with only a tiny risk of ballache.

Is anyone going to buy this?

WPA

12,835 posts

133 months

Yesterday (08:38)
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Cannot see this making any sense to purchase and nearly £19k surely other options are available

DaveyBoyWonder

3,338 posts

193 months

Yesterday (08:38)
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TBF, I think look far, far, far better than a lot of things on the roads these days. Would I buy one? Hell no.

This made me laugh though "What was once an expensive object of desire". Sure...