RE: Jaguar's 1000hp electric GT | PH Meets
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Jaguar's 1000hp electric GT | PH Meets

We've all seen Type 00 - now it's time to find out what things are like from the prototype's passenger seat...


The last time PH remembers looking out onto JLR’s paddock at Gaydon, enclosed on three sides by its offices, it was dusk and contained two of the very first examples of the current Defender, which were driven around in slow circles for the onlooking press like the scrubbed show ponies they were. The accompanying fanfare had been equally well choreographed; Land Rover knew the bit of its reputation that wasn’t Range Rover, the bit that was older and gnarlier and revered by grown men in wellies, was on the line. But it knew it probably had a hit, too. Covid travails aside, the modernised Defender fit 2019 like a glove. 

Now, half a decade later and running late, it’s Jaguar’s turn on the House of Brands merry-go-round. Palpably, it is less sure. Not of whether the production version of its Type 00 concept will be a fundamentally ‘good’ car - objectively speaking, for reasons that we’ll come onto, it likely will be - but whether or not it is precisely the ‘right’ car to generate the adulation and must-have aura that it was designed to invoke. And while it is hardly fair for a single model to bear the full burden of a rebrand more than 90 years in the making, Jaguar only has itself to blame for that. Carmakers, as a rule, do not retire en masse into a poker-faced chrysalis, hoping to emerge as a very different butterfly a year later. 

There is no version of its transition from volume manufacturer of rowdy combustion cars to luxury EV assembler that would’ve been to everyone’s liking - but while Jaguar was well-prepared for Type 00’s styling to divide opinions (indeed, it claims now to have heard plenty of dissenting views from day one), it was clearly not expecting the scale of mauling subsequently directed at its messaging or the long-running fallout that followed. Probably, though we still do not know for sure, it was not expecting to (allegedly, dramatically) part ways with one of the chief architects of both the concept and the message either. Or suffer the seismic aftershocks of a crippling cyber attack

Rawdon Glover, Jaguar’s affable Managing Director, recognises that things might have gone smoother. Much as he is prepared to acknowledge that the battery-powered four-door GT he is set to launch next year might have faced a more receptive market. The vaunted £120,000 to £140,000 bracket it will appear in is new to Jaguar, though the people shopping there are hardly themselves new to the concept of an upmarket electric car - the likes of the Mercedes EQS and BMW i7 have failed to find much success, much like high-cost EVs in virtually any segment. When Porsche, a brand that Jaguar would dearly love to emulate, feels duty-bound to veer away from an ambitious zero-emission strategy, you do start to wonder about the firm’s direction of travel as advertised.

But Glover is adamant: Jaguar’s future remains wholly electric. Granted, his declaration came before the EU’s decision to stage its own legislative U-turn on combustion, though in the short term that would hardly seem to matter. Moreover, despite the manifest choppiness of the water dead ahead, the MD is equally insistent about the underlying requirement for success: the firm’s old business model did not work, this one must. Meaning its new GT must go where no Jaguar has been before, with a controversial new look, no engine, no overt link to its past and be bought by people who are very likely strangers to the brand. 

Perhaps understandably, quite how many willing buyers would constitute a success is, for now, still a mystery. Plainly, the days of Jaguar trying to mass produce its way to parity with more muscular German rivals are long gone, though similarly it cannot survive for long on very low volumes - not least because it isn’t charging Bentley Flying Spur money to join the club. Glover intimates, as Jaguar has done since it first presented Type 00, that it will be for whatever comes next on its new EV architecture to find customers en masse; it is the four-door GT’s job to shock and awe. First job, for better or for worse, and to a degree previously unwarranted, done. 

The second job at least partly falls to Matt Becker and the wider Jaguar engineering team, and it is primarily to meet the Vehicle Engineering Director that PH is back at JLR’s paddock, blinking into the setting winter sun. Becker is good value on any given afternoon - as you might expect from a storied career that has already ticked off Lotus and Aston Martin - though one suspects that today his attendance was all but non-negotiable. Once upon a time, it was Mike Cross quietly assuring us that no matter the colour of the surrounding confetti, the new model in question had been rigorously developed underneath, with one eye solemnly fixed on what it actually meant to be a Jaguar. Becker’s job role might be different, yet his status as straight-talking guru on these occasions is much the same. Ditto his driving skills. 

Later in the day, back indoors, we’re treated to a peek under the camouflage, though the waiting prototype is still heavily shrouded in the stuff. More often than not, the absence of a crisply defined outline causes a car to shrink - but there really is no getting away from the sheer size of the production model, nor its curious proportions. It is, as Jaguar keeps reminding us, longer than a Range Rover but lower than an F-Type. On 23-inch wheels, with that raked-back windscreen and shallow glasshouse, it ought to be as sleek as a buttered ferret, yet its front and rear, as bluff as chalk cliffs, defy the description. Presence, it does not lack in the flesh. Drama, even. But beauty remains conspicuous for its absence. 

Becker makes no mention of the car’s appearance except to say that when he first saw the concept, he initially agonised about how it might be engineered to drive as a four-door GT ought to, particularly given the exaggerated distance between driver and front axle. Happily, fear of it turning like a giant Caterham 7 proved unfounded; indeed, the positioning of the front seats near the centre of the production model has apparently helped to shrink-wrap the driving experience. Which is a useful trait given the amount of real estate visible from the windscreen, that long, levelled-off prow as vividly present as a football pitch would be in your back garden. 

The sight of it brings to mind the Rolls-Royce Ghost we tested just last week, though that car feels infinitely taller; not just in the location of the seats, but in ride height, too. Encouragingly, the Jaguar, even in unfinished prototype spec, its interior clad in the automotive equivalent of net curtains, immediately feels plush. Quiet you expect from an electric car, and no six-figure GT goes under-insulated - yet there’s sense as well, in the first 100ft, of the kind of imperturbable isolation that Rolls strives for in its rolling refinement. 

High praise, of course, though it returns us to the question of character: what constitutes Jaguar DNA in the silent era? Becker acknowledges that the subject was up for debate early on, and required some extensive soul searching among the firm’s heritage collection. Intriguingly, he mentions the XJC V12 as one touchstone, though the overriding bullet points they ended up with ought to be familiar to most: comfort, composure, connectedness, confidence, with no single attribute delivered at the expense of another. 

The technical means for arriving at this promised land reflect wider industry standards when it comes to building large EVs with substantial, 400-mile-capable battery packs. Jaguar has opted for a tri-motor, all-wheel-drive configuration, with a brace of larger motors located at the back and a single, smaller one up front. Becker says the car’s default torque split will mean around 70 per cent of the targeted 1,000hp output (probably a smidge more in reality) arriving at the rear axle, though of course the precise nature of the vectoring will depend on what you’re doing. While this is not the day for proving it, he cheerily acknowledges that the GT will go indulgently sideways, should you wish. 

What the prototype does do on a cold, dry and runway-wide test track, is change direction with impressive, ground-hugging certitude. That the new model incorporates rear-wheel steering is no surprise, though interestingly Jaguar has not opted to include any variant of anti-roll system, Becker suggesting that the GT’s adaptive, dual-valve air suspension is more than up to the job at hand, and noting the inevitable weight penalty presented by an active solution - an important consideration in a luxury EV with a targeted kerbweight of less than 2,750kg. 

Precisely where the production model ends up on the scales ought to be a source of enduring fascination to some, though, as ever, the final number will not ultimately handicap the car’s predictably momentous straight line performance. Becker has the prototype up to an indicated 160mph without conspicuous effort or delay, though he is adamant that Jaguar has worked to avoid neck-snapping, all-or-nothing throttle response; indeed, the GT is meant to evoke a ‘power in reserve’ feel, making it accessible and alluring when required, yet linear enough for its responses to seem instinctive. 

This quality, one suspects, is the sort of thing Becker would like writ large. Discussing the importance of the steering to a modern Jaguar, he notes that the team have gone with a slightly quicker ratio, hoping to locate that engagement sweet spot where pushing on isn’t merely about going faster, but feeling the car come to you. Impossible from the passenger seat to know if they’ve succeeded, though there is sufficient assurance in the GT’s opulent ride quality at speed for you to start gamely hoping they have. 

Becker graciously credits some of this dynamic polish to the impressively stiff platform they started with, as well as the uniform balance that comes from having a battery humming away beneath your feet. Not that you’ll actually hear it: one thing still left to do - or at least, not present and correct on our test mule - is to finalise the soundscape. Here Jaguar promises to build on the work it did with the I-Pace, not to mention install the kind of active noise cancellation that helps turn a 160mph squall into a gentle breeze.

That some customers might still prefer to hear the lusty rustle of a V8 amid the tranquillity is a point that Glover later concedes with a practised shrug. Jaguar has moved on; if it cannot convince those people of the validity of “the most powerful Jaguar we've ever produced… the fastest Jaguar ever produced… the quietest Jaguar ever produced” then so be it. The MD remains convinced, despite burgeoning real-world evidence to the contrary, that buyers don’t really care about the identity of their car’s power source, so long as you get everything else right. 

The suspicion so far - and that’s all it ever amounts to from the passenger seat - is that many things about the production model will indeed be right. Possibly in ways that exceed all expectations. Nevertheless, the new four-door GT will look much as the concept does, which for some, is going to prove a stumbling block no less obstructive than the absence of an engine is to others. Jaguar, in wilful pursuit of the point of difference that has long alluded it, has become fixated on the remainder: well-heeled, brand literate and avowedly EV curious. Let’s hope they prove sufficiently numerous to kickstart the revolution its legacy deserves. 


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Mushroom12

Original Poster:

201 posts

111 months

And there I was thinking and hoping Jaguar killed this and course corrected. They are building a car nobody wants.

salmanorguk

269 posts

112 months

I wonder who will end up costing Jaguar more money?

The hackers who carried out the largest cyber attack in British history...

OR

...The multitude of fools who greenlit a car underpinned by propulsion no ones buying, styling that is apparently not handsome and just brash, to compete at a price point it has never entered, at a time when most buyers are spending less freely, against much more established and stable competition, while rebranding the company so bafflingly and poorly it put off most younger/new buyers, made traditional buyers seriously upset, and countered all this by convincing themselves they are misunderstood geniuses and told everyone to "p*ss off we know what we're doing".

Demonix

745 posts

232 months

An expensive 2 and 3/4 ton EV GT's arrival following the disastrous rebranding exercise, damaging cyber security attack and Trump's Tariff all point toward the demise of Jaguar. The car would have to be miraculously good to save the brand. I hope it is!

Spiros115

398 posts

70 months

Then silhouette seems to be getting better, proportions looks sleek and interesting but this looks a harder sell with every day that passes, I really fear for jag now.

biggbn

29,054 posts

240 months

Can't wait to see this...

SDK

2,375 posts

273 months

salmanorguk said:
The multitude of fools who greenlit a car underpinned by propulsion no ones buying,.
The ‘Victor Meldrew’ people still clinging onto this nonsense, despite:

-> Over 60 million EV’s sold globally in 5 years
-> Electric being the automotive growth sector in most countries
-> Porsche selling more EV’s than they do the same ICE models
-> Tesla having the worlds best selling car for the last 2 years

Time to move on !

CLK-GTR

1,644 posts

265 months

Jaguar yet again building the wrong car at the wrong time.

This needs to be objectively just about the best car in the world to be anything other than a complete flop and the end of the Jaguar brand.

Portofino

4,985 posts

211 months

Not many saloons being bought though that’s for sure.

tatws

71 posts

154 months

Mushroom12 said:
And there I was thinking and hoping Jaguar killed this and course corrected. They are building a car nobody wants.
Why, because McGovern has left the company? He wasn’t the only one in charge of Jaguar when they decided to go full EV. PB Balaji (the new CEO) has been CFO at JLR since 2017. He would have been part of the board and signed this off as well.

They can’t simply kill the only car they have out prototyping and “course correct”. It takes years to develop a car. JLR signed off on this as a whole, they have to stick with it for the time being.

Jon_S_Rally

4,173 posts

108 months

SDK said:
The Victor Meldrew people still clinging onto this nonsense, despite:

-> Over 60 million EV s sold globally in 5 years
-> Electric being the automotive growth sector in most countries
-> Porsche selling more EV s than they do the same ICE models
-> Tesla having the worlds best selling car for the last 2 years

Time to move on !
Why do people have to make it so black-and-white?

Overall EV sales may be increasing, but that doesn't mean every EV is a success story. The struggles Porsche has had with the Taycan are well known, and such a large player in the segment wouldn't be openly changing its strategy if everything was rosy.

The EV market will continue to grow, and that's absolutely fine, but that doesn't mean this is the right car for Jaguar. That very much remains to be seen in reality.

Juan B

630 posts

24 months

Silhouettes alright, everythig else IMO seems to have slightly missed the mark. Time will tell.

Prefer AI's interpretation of a sleeker version.


Wolfie87

315 posts

223 months

This could end up being as costly to jaguar as the phoenix 4 were to MG Rover.

I am sure this will perform just as well as jaGuar are stating, I just feel the writing is on the wall for them.

Surely jaGuar must know that no body is buying high end EV's now, and with the announcement of a pay per mile tax for ev's, that is likely to reduce to zero until people know how that will work.

Shame, as jaGuar will be sorely missed. I do hope they all know something we don't.

ettore

4,738 posts

272 months

I’m fascinated to see this when it goes live.

The EV market isn’t going away, it’s evolving, and the demand for expensive, swish ones will return. Can’t help thinking, with the EU rollback, a nice petrol engined new F-Type would look good alongside though!

Screechmr2

313 posts

124 months

SDK said:
salmanorguk said:
The multitude of fools who greenlit a car underpinned by propulsion no ones buying,.
The Victor Meldrew people still clinging onto this nonsense, despite:

-> Over 60 million EV s sold globally in 5 years
-> Electric being the automotive growth sector in most countries
-> Porsche selling more EV s than they do the same ICE models
-> Tesla having the worlds best selling car for the last 2 years

Time to move on !
Hold on there.
Sales figures are almost zero because they cost too much,
There's no where to charge,
Evs take 75 hours to charge enough to drive 20 miles
It costs £3744 at a public charger which either doesn't work or you have to queue for 3 hours in order to get an available one and then you have to wait in your car for hours while it charges.
Then there is the range anxiety because your 300 mile EV can only do 2 miles in winter.
The battery will fail every 2 years and cost you £50k to replace.
Everyone regrets buying an ev and can't wait to go back to ice.

I might have missed a couple but i think i managed to get most of the main daily mail ev facts😉

scenario8

7,467 posts

199 months

It really is difficult to believe Jaguar will be a success story in the late 2020s. I really fear for them.

blue al

1,240 posts

179 months

Spiros115 said:
Then silhouette seems to be getting better, proportions looks sleek and interesting but this looks a harder sell with every day that passes, I really fear for jag now.
Seen it in the real world in the truck lay-by just on the edge of Gaydon and felt absolutely no desire to try take a picture of it
The camo cannot be helping here but it looks way too big for the local B roads.
And I ve seen lots of development l JLR and Aston Martin projects locally over the last 20 years.

For the limited time it s been out and about they should now consider trying to get it morphed into something more visually production ready and do really something to improve its curb appeal if they have any interest in creating the demand & selling these to the masses.

But In the absence of any serious details about pricing ( remember those mystical cheap lotuses that people put deposits down ) Im not buying 120k for a moment I’m getting the distinct whiff of plutocrat or bitcoin millionaire or someone ironically making all their money in a sandy carbon production facility as the target ( say Export 3 times ) market rather than any midlands middle management in Solihull looking to maximise their BIK allowance.

To hypothesis someone has sat in a dark office and decided to go take on the world with a Brummy accent whilst stroking a Cat and declared that they are the new Maybach from 2030

I ll eat my peaky blinders cap if I m a million miles away from the truth A typical Bond Villian now based less
A mile down the road from where they used to make Bonds Car coffee


Edited by blue al on Wednesday 17th December 07:50

SDK

2,375 posts

273 months

scenario8 said:
It really is difficult to believe Jaguar will be a success story in the late 2020s. I really fear for them.
Jaguar has always struggled to be a 'success story', even when they had better cars than the German rivals.

Will this be a 'success story'? - probably not
But, in the last 12 months, this car has found more interest than any other car in the world.

To think it won't sell, and be a flop, is likely wrong!

Edited by SDK on Wednesday 17th December 07:56

blue al

1,240 posts

179 months

Screechmr2 said:
SDK said:
salmanorguk said:
The multitude of fools who greenlit a car underpinned by propulsion no ones buying,.
The Victor Meldrew people still clinging onto this nonsense, despite:

-> Over 60 million EV s sold globally in 5 years
-> Electric being the automotive growth sector in most countries
-> Porsche selling more EV s than they do the same ICE models
-> Tesla having the worlds best selling car for the last 2 years

Time to move on !
Hold on there.
Sales figures are almost zero because they cost too much,
There's no where to charge,
Evs take 75 hours to charge enough to drive 20 miles
It costs £3744 at a public charger which either doesn't work or you have to queue for 3 hours in order to get an available one and then you have to wait in your car for hours while it charges.
Then there is the range anxiety because your 300 mile EV can only do 2 miles in winter.
The battery will fail every 2 years and cost you £50k to replace.
Everyone regrets buying an ev and can't wait to go back to ice.

I might have missed a couple but i think i managed to get most of the main daily mail ev facts?
You missed the depreciation costs hidden by BIK TAX gifts which is ironic as that’s the only thing the EV evangelists don’t want to talk about getmecoat

richard_86

14 posts

118 months

If it's an electric car, what's under that huge bonnet? An enormous frunk?

It looks like they've made it a very impractical shape just to imply a huge engine that it hasn't got. It's like something out of a comic book to me.

Kawasaki2000

91 posts

11 months

I think the risk here isn’t “£130k EVs don’t sell”, it’s whether people trust Jaguar enough at £130k. The market at this level does exist, but it’s thin and brutally selective. EQS and i7 haven’t struggled because they’re electric; they’ve struggled because they’re conservative, emotionally flat and priced on badge rather than desire.

Jaguar is at least trying something bolder. This isn’t aimed at the traditional PH audience or legacy Jag buyers – it’s a low-volume halo car meant to reset the brand, not replace an XF or F-Type. On that basis, volume comparisons with Taycan or EQS miss the point.

Where PH’s scepticism is fair is execution. At this price, “pretty good” isn’t enough. Software glitches, charging frustrations or early reliability issues would be fatal, especially given Jaguar’s recent history and residual values. Buyers here expect Porsche-level confidence, not excuses.

So yes, it’s a gamble – but not because it’s electric. It’s a gamble because Jaguar has one shot to prove it can deliver something exceptional end-to-end. If they do, it works narrowly. If they don’t, the strategy collapses quickly.