RE: Toyota GR Yaris | PH Origin Story
RE: Toyota GR Yaris | PH Origin Story
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Toyota GR Yaris | PH Origin Story

The GR Yaris is a hot hatch like no other - but it wasn't Toyota's first time...


With a new V8 sports car and a GT3-spec racer on the horizon, now is an exciting time for Toyota Gazoo Racing. But then, to be frank, when isn’t it? In a world of overly cautious car companies, Toyota has wholeheartedly, consistently and convincingly committed itself to making cool stuff: the GR hatches have already spawned stripped-out two-seat variants and rally driver specials, the Supra bowed out as a limited edition, manual road racer, and those markets that still get a GR86 seem to be offered a new spec most months. 

None of this should be surprising, however, because of the Yaris Gazoo Racing Meisters of Nurburgring - also known as the GRMN. See, here was a car just as driver-focused, just as unlikely to happen, just as willed into production by a dedicated bunch of engineers as anything that’s subsequently come from GR. Maybe more so. But now it feels a tiny bit forgotten about, as evidenced by an odometer that reads fewer than 3,000 miles on Toyota’s 2018 test car; the 74-plated GR Yaris, for example, is already on five figures. 

The GRMN wasn’t so much a toe in the water for a proper Yaris hot hatch as a test bed that was available to buy. Having initially said 600 would be produced, only 400 GRMNs were made for the entire planet (with 100 coming here), requiring all manner of hurdles to be overcome. This era of Yaris, to say nothing of its production line, was never designed with a supercharged, limited-slip diff'd hot hatch in mind, so its gestation was tricky to say the least. And its parts bin pinching was nothing if not extensive: a subframe from a Yaris hybrid, a cat from a Lexus, the wheel from a GT86 and so on. The GRMN was the kind of bitsa build no major manufacturer would really commit to, but as the next few years were going to show, Toyota was very keen not to be like other manufacturers. 

So in the company of the first and latest GR-badged Yarises, the questions are abundant: did the GRMN really pave the way for the GR, or is it an outlier in the back catalogue? Can a front-drive, supercharged Toyota really feel anything like a four-wheel drive, turbocharged one? On the other hand, how different can a pair of Toyota Yarises limited to 143mph actually be? And why aren’t there more days thrashing around in two manual hot hatches, weighing less than 2.5 tonnes combined?

If the GR felt like a gift from above at the end of a miserable 2020, the reception for the GRMN was a little more muted a couple of years beforehand. It seemed expensive against similarly sized rivals, the optional stickers looked a bit naff, and Gazoo Racing simply didn’t enjoy the reputation that it soon would. If you wanted a fun Toyota for that money, the GT86 would have done the job; a great hot hatch was available for less money from Ford. Just a few years later, though, and Toyota’s commitment to the GRMN cause deserves more praise than ever as the Yaris went on to bigger and better things, but also as the GRMN still offers up an experience like no other pocket rocket. What other 1,100kg, supercharged, manual hot hatches with forged wheels and Sachs dampers can you think of? If Gazoo was to become known for doing its own thing, apparently ignoring tradition, precedent or rivals, the GRMN set out the stall pretty emphatically. 

Yet it remains a Yaris to some extent. You’re still perched in the driver’s seat like your nan would be, a spindly gearlever soars like a beanstalk from the floor, and the sizeable HVAC controls are handy if your eyesight isn’t what it was. Shoes much bigger than an 8 don’t fit brilliantly on the pedals. The red accents and badges convey the GR message, but the newer car is much more convincing at creating a sense of occasion with its seats, perfectly-sited gearlever and prominent mode switches. That feeling of a car with the Gazoo-ness baked into it, against one that’s had it grafted on, is immediately apparent - and inescapable. If the styling, with slightly gaudy stickers and spoilers and centre exit exhaust against mean and moody motorsport influence, hadn’t already given the game away. 

The innate dowdiness of a GRMN makes the thrill from behind the wheel (that doesn’t come out far enough) all the more shocking. Despite its humble origins, or perhaps because of them, since expectations were lower, the Yaris was - and still is - an absolute hoot. This was much more than stickers and a supercharger, representing the kind of methodical overhaul we’ve now come to expect from Gazoo. Back in the late '10s, it was less immediately hilarious than a Fiesta ST, but the effervescence of its powertrain and the staying power of its chassis won it plenty of fans. As with so many of the GR-badged cars since, you could beat on the Yaris for lap after lap and mile after mile, brake pedal staying resolutely firm, diff refusing to wilt and tyres clinging on. 

The powertrain is still a highlight. The response of a supercharger is so immediate and so thrilling, goading you on at every opportunity to mat the throttle and grab another gear. The 1.8 wants revs and it wants commitment, which a perfectly weighted clutch and shift pairing are only too happy to facilitate. The ratios are short and snappy, the exhaust blares like a touring car and the performance is strong; there’s nothing like the feeling of sitting on a car rather than in it to amplify a sense of speed.

There’s the feel of a tuner car to the GRMN, like it’s a one-off passion project rather than a derivative signed off by one of the world’s largest OEMS, and that’s meant entirely as a compliment. It’s raw, it’s demanding and it’s unapologetic: the exhaust throbs, the low-speed ride is terse, there’s no help - as with the i-MT-equipped Yaris - with your downshifts. It’s a proper riot, and huge fun as a result. But there’s real quality under the bluster as well; those dampers keep a good check on mass movement with more speed, the brake pedal feel (complete with bespoke four-piston calipers) is resolute and the steering can’t really be faulted for an electric system. Toyota fiddled with software ‘to enhance feedback and linearity’, the result being a front end that’s responsive, accurate and feelsome, the workings of the diff always detectable without being overbearing. The juxtaposition of the Yaris bits with the GR elements always feels a tad strange, though it’s a long way from unsatisfying. 

The later Yaris, designed as it was from the outset to be an all-conquering rally-bred hero, is cohesive, homogenous, almost a little sensible by direct comparison. That’s how rambunctious the old car is, that it can make the world’s most powerful three-cylinder engine in a four-wheel drive rocketship feel a bit too polished for its own good. It seems muted, distant and, yes, refined against the old stager - words not typically associated with the GR Yaris. 

And while these things are all relative - the new car is like driving a bath bomb versus most things - it does serve as a reminder that, just occasionally, the GR Yaris isn’t quite as entertaining as you’d want a small, light, fast hatchback to be. Whereas the GRMN bombards you with sound and sensation from the off, the GRY seems solely, unflinchingly focused on getting to the maximum speed possible as fast as possible, with the experience a secondary concern. And that’s a bit of a surprise. 

The flipside of that is a car that’s leagues more capable than its spiritual predecessor. It’s hard to think of anything, really, that could go any faster on moist, bumpy B-road than a GR Yaris. Its broad, muscular stance, in stark contrast to the narrow and gawky GRMN, makes for immense stability and security through bends, despite carrying more than an extra 150kg (yet still coming in at less than 1,300kg, pleasingly), it’s damped with a level of control and polish that’s unrivalled here, and pretty much anywhere. What the engine can’t offer in immediate vim, it claws back with huge mid-range punch and an equally enthusiastic rush to 7,000rpm.

Indeed, stellar powertrains have become a GR calling card, so let’s hope for something similar from the GT’s V8. The Gazoo Racing 86’s flat-four addressed all the issues of the GT’s 2.0-litre; the Supra’s manual was far better than any BMW six-speed has been; and these two, with just seven cylinders and 3.4 litres between them, prove that star quality isn’t necessarily related to cubic inches or cylinder count. The GRMN was always going to be a ripper, because that 1.8 2ZR-FE had already proved its worth in later Elises. 

The G16E-GTS was more of an unknown quantity, yet charmed immediately - and continues to do so. The lag makes the rush exciting, the zesty top end means revs are always rewarded, and the three-cylinder thrum has a character all of its own (that is a bit different to a Fiesta’s.) It’s clear to see, too, where the old Yaris created a template for the current one, with a second gear that’ll just get to the 60mph benchmark, a shift that feels strong enough for a billion changes, and a proper rap-bap-bap rev limiter. It’s all in the details, see…   

And while a GRMN won’t realistically see where a GR went when the going gets twisty, there are certainly shared attributes to the respective experiences. Obviously both are compact, easy-to-place hatchbacks, which is a boon now more than ever, but the resistance and weighting of key controls are a vital part of their appeal as well. Look at both gearlevers: adorned with simple knobs, yet with the kind of star quality to the shift to shame most others. You wouldn’t change a thing about the brake pedals. Each steering wheel is relatively plain, simple, and notable for offering - as well as not needing - any configuration. Nailing the basics without concern for fripperies has become a GR hallmark, and it makes both of these a real pleasure even when not going the full Ogier. 

It is a shame that the GR requires such commitment, however, for anything like the old car’s thrill factor. Perhaps it would be daft to expect a car explicitly designed to win rallies to be anything but a grip monster, but even by modern hot hatch standards the Yaris leaves plenty of its potential untapped at road speeds. To some extent it means you leave the new car just a tad frustrated, knowing there’s so much more to explore but unable to. The old car is much more of an open book, and the ability to meld old school silliness with proper engineering rigour does show up the GR slightly. 

Granted, even writing that down feels like a churlish complaint. The old Yaris demonstrated the considerable potential Gazoo had at its disposal, which the GR has fully exploited and then some: the influence of motorsport has become innate to the development, and created a modern hot hatch hero in the process. All that being said, the skunkworks nature of the GRMN makes it more of a giggle, more of the time. It’s a rough diamond, but a diamond nonetheless. Far from being a footnote in Gazoo's history, then, there’s still something to learn for the future from the GRMN. A car as focused as we now have with the wild side of its recent past would be something very special indeed. And you really wouldn’t put anything past its maker right now…


SPECIFICATION | 2019 TOYOTA YARIS GRMN

Engine: 1,798cc, supercharged 4-cyl
Transmission: 6-speed manual, front-wheel drive
Power (hp): 212@6,800rpm
Torque (lb ft): 184@5,000rpm
0-62mph: 6.4 secs
Top speed: 143mph (limited)
Weight: 1,135kg
MPG: 37.6 (NEDC combined)
CO2: 170g/km
Price: £26,295

SPECIFICATION | 2025 TOYOTA GR YARIS

Engine: 1,618cc three-cylinder, turbocharged
Transmission: 6-speed manual, all-wheel drive
Power (hp): 280@6,500rpm
Torque (lb ft): 288@3,250rpm - 4,000rpm
0-62mph: 5.2 seconds
Top speed: 143mph
Weight: 1,280kg
MPG: 34
CO2: 188g/km
Price: £45,405 (price as standard; price as tested £46,045 comprising Precious Black paint for £640)

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mersontheperson

Original Poster:

730 posts

185 months

Yesterday (08:06)
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What a word salad, started reading got confused, gave up

Water Fairy

6,338 posts

175 months

Yesterday (08:56)
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I thought that was a good read personally, and not at all surprised by the summary. A lot of owners on the forum agree the GR is so capable it's not as fun as it might be at sensible speeds.

I want a GRY at some point, however, but for now my Fezza ST is really hitting the mark for fun.


GreatScott2016

2,111 posts

108 months

Yesterday (09:25)
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I have no doubt the GRY is a fun thing to drive, and maybe one day, I’ll experience this myself. However, the looks remain challenging to me, but only the rear end and side profile. Really nice front end though. No desire to ever own one but can full understand the appeal of ownership for many smile

LT1987

27 posts

66 months

Yesterday (09:29)
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I agree with mersontheperson. I was eager to read this article (as the GRMN has always been a curiosity for me).

Unfortunately, this is very poorly written. Unnecessarily wordy, trying to be edgy with the punctuation / sentence structure / flow. It took me a several reads to digest.

It detracts from a potentially interesting article.

I would expect better from PH. Hopefully this is just a glitch.

FestivAli

1,137 posts

258 months

Yesterday (09:38)
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I liked the write up. It was good to see a few more words on the GRMN as that car was a bit of an unknown for me. Supercharged 1.8l I4 sounds like a lovely thing to use in a hot hatch - I know there are a few people out there supercharging Honda Jazzes to give the BHP a bump but not in a tire-frying way. Because it seems to be a point of debate for some reason, I liked the way the article was written.

NGK210

4,370 posts

165 months

Yesterday (10:00)
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Love a GRY. Black with silver wheels and red calipers, please.

martin12345

882 posts

109 months

Yesterday (10:04)
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Curious article. i also think it is rather too wordy for its own good but hey, it's Xmas and PH needs to have some content to post whilst everyone is on holiday

On the cars, i think the connection between the two is really weak other than they are both (good) symptoms of Akio Toyoda's wish for Toyota to make cars that drivers enjoy (a bit like RPJ did for Ford)

The GRMN has a "hobby job" done by the staff of Toyota Europe and Toyota Japan had nothing to do with it except signing off on the small budget for it to happen. It is a compromised car where "the best that could be done with existing parts" was done with a bunch of nice tuning alongside. It the supercharged engine hadn't' existed for Lotus then the chances are it would never have happened

The GRY had the full power of Toyota Japan's engineering and manufacturing behind it and europe's involvement was small (despite owning the Yaris platform in the Toyota organisation)

As drivers cars the GRMN is really a direct competitor for the FST and to be honest, when launched, it never won a road test against the Fiesta. Fun but flawed was the general verdict

The GRY plays a totally different game having been created for a very different reason and hardly has any direct competitors. (I didn't buy one having weighed up the options of other cars (my usual process) - i just wanted one and got it and then accepted the practicality compromises of it's small size compared to the Golf sized cars I usually get)


In essence, this is a totally "made up" story in my view, as the two cars have absolutely nothing to do with each other (other than the name) but i still enjoyed it as a read


As for the GRY being "too competent" to be fun on the road. There is some truth in that but equally I love it's shear competence and enjoy it and a few times a year i track it and enjoy it even more taking it to its high limits and occasionally slightly beyond. 3 years in to ownership I have no firm plans to replace it with the future options being either a Gen 2 or a GR Corolla but that will not be for 2 or 3 years, and i haven't owned any of my cars for more than 2 or so years before as i tend to get bored and want a chance - not so with the GRY


cerb4.5lee

40,160 posts

200 months

Yesterday (10:11)
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Water Fairy said:
A lot of owners on the forum agree the GR is so capable it's not as fun as it might be at sensible speeds.
It would be nice if it had a switchable 4WD system like some of the BMW M cars do, and if you could put it into RWD only, then that would improve the fun factor at lower speeds I reckon. 4WD is a lovely benefit to have at this time of year I always think though.

nismo48

5,930 posts

227 months

Yesterday (10:20)
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Interesting read and two quite different cars in their own right

Water Fairy

6,338 posts

175 months

Yesterday (10:38)
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cerb4.5lee said:
Water Fairy said:
A lot of owners on the forum agree the GR is so capable it's not as fun as it might be at sensible speeds.
It would be nice if it had a switchable 4WD system like some of the BMW M cars do, and if you could put it into RWD only, then that would improve the fun factor at lower speeds I reckon. 4WD is a lovely benefit to have at this time of year I always think though.
Yes indeed. A new job means my commute from Harleston to Snetterton includes some great cross country driving roads and my FST is proving to be a real hoot but with the roads as they are atm a GRY would be next level in weaponry.

Oberheim

426 posts

11 months

Yesterday (10:48)
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GreatScott2016 said:
I have no doubt the GRY is a fun thing to drive, and maybe one day, I ll experience this myself. However, the looks remain challenging to me, but only the rear end and side profile. Really nice front end though. No desire to ever own one but can full understand the appeal of ownership for many smile
Echoes my views of the GR Yaris. The front end is easily the nicest-looking aspect of a car that is otherwise not at all easy on the eye. A hugely capable compact driving machine, no doubts.

I much prefer the interior of the Gen 1 GRY (and the GRMN interior) to that of the Gen 2 featured here. The angled infotainment screen in particular really jars with me.

Twinair

983 posts

162 months

Yesterday (11:03)
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Oberheim said:
GreatScott2016 said:
I have no doubt the GRY is a fun thing to drive, and maybe one day, I ll experience this myself. However, the looks remain challenging to me, but only the rear end and side profile. Really nice front end though. No desire to ever own one but can full understand the appeal of ownership for many smile
Echoes my views of the GR Yaris. The front end is easily the nicest-looking aspect of a car that is otherwise not at all easy on the eye. A hugely capable compact driving machine, no doubts.

I much prefer the interior of the Gen 1 GRY (and the GRMN interior) to that of the Gen 2 featured here. The angled infotainment screen in particular really jars with me.
I know what you mean about the ‘angles’ and views of the car…

I have convinced myself that it is ‘my’ modern equivalent of a 6R4 metro… A stretch - I know…!!

But I would have to agree - it is hard to find the limit on the road… out with my lad last week in his GR86 - he radioed ahead to say: ‘Dad, ease it off - I can’t live with this pace across country’ greasy road - he was losing the back end (Well the diff & traction was cutting in) To be honest - I was 7-8 tenths in the Yaris…

No father would want to put their son under pressure - no sane one anyway… so I dialled back to 6-7 tenths & we had a lovely cross country schlep…

Here’s mine at Prescott - I never felt the want to modify my cars over the years, but I think the OZ’s quite suit it??

I also genuinely prefer the gen 1 dash & interior… I like the seat ‘perch’ - too many motorbike crashes - so the ‘sit up position’ suits me :-))




Oberheim

426 posts

11 months

Yesterday (11:44)
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Looks much nicer in Scarlet Flare - the best colour option offered for the GRY in my (biased) opinion. My Corolla wears the same colour as yours and I was happy to pay the grand extra for it smile

Yes, those wheels look good against the Scarlet Flare.

Twinair

983 posts

162 months

Yesterday (11:58)
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Oberheim said:
Looks much nicer in Scarlet Flare - the best colour option offered for the GRY in my (biased) opinion. My Corolla wears the same colour as yours and I was happy to pay the grand extra for it smile

Yes, those wheels look good against the Scarlet Flare.
Yeah it’s a nice colour, totally different between a dark and sunny day… the grey fleck in the paint really does look dark when there is no sun - almost like it’s not metallic…

Forgot to mention the GRMN, I looked at one - when they had dipped below 20k (GBP) I thought it was a lot of hatch for the money…

But I missed a Gen1 Yaris - then right as the Gen2 was released - I got a cancelled order Gen1 with 22 miles on it…

Great little car, as I have said a few times - came out of a GT4 cayman - cannot say the GRY is ‘less fun’… not at all…

How’s your Corolla - pleased with it? :-))

Maccmike8

1,467 posts

74 months

Yesterday (12:16)
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Personally Im happy with my GR at modest speeds. Always feels sporty. But does the commute easy too. So I dont quite get where reviewers are coming from in that regard.

Twinair

983 posts

162 months

Yesterday (12:22)
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Maccmike8 said:
Personally Im happy with my GR at modest speeds. Always feels sporty. But does the commute easy too. So I dont quite get where reviewers are coming from in that regard.
I think that’s the big difference between journalists who drive them for a few 100 miles - and people who own them…

6-7-8 tenths is plenty sporty in the GRY - you are right!

I commuted back and forth to Heathrow the other day in mine, it’s drama free… easy peasy on the clutch and controls…

Very easy car to live with - for one so capable, agree, very much agree with you…

How long have you had yours now?

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GreatScott2016

2,111 posts

108 months

Yesterday (13:06)
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Twinair said:
Oberheim said:
GreatScott2016 said:
I have no doubt the GRY is a fun thing to drive, and maybe one day, I ll experience this myself. However, the looks remain challenging to me, but only the rear end and side profile. Really nice front end though. No desire to ever own one but can full understand the appeal of ownership for many smile
Echoes my views of the GR Yaris. The front end is easily the nicest-looking aspect of a car that is otherwise not at all easy on the eye. A hugely capable compact driving machine, no doubts.

I much prefer the interior of the Gen 1 GRY (and the GRMN interior) to that of the Gen 2 featured here. The angled infotainment screen in particular really jars with me.
I know what you mean about the angles and views of the car

I have convinced myself that it is my modern equivalent of a 6R4 metro A stretch - I know !!

But I would have to agree - it is hard to find the limit on the road out with my lad last week in his GR86 - he radioed ahead to say: Dad, ease it off - I can t live with this pace across country greasy road - he was losing the back end (Well the diff & traction was cutting in) To be honest - I was 7-8 tenths in the Yaris

No father would want to put their son under pressure - no sane one anyway so I dialled back to 6-7 tenths & we had a lovely cross country schlep

Here s mine at Prescott - I never felt the want to modify my cars over the years, but I think the OZ s quite suit it??

I also genuinely prefer the gen 1 dash & interior I like the seat perch - too many motorbike crashes - so the sit up position suits me :-))



That’s one of the nicest colour combos I’ve seen for the GRY, congrats! Very wise also to “ease off” under those conditions yikes



Maccmike8

1,467 posts

74 months

Yesterday (14:10)
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Twinair said:
Maccmike8 said:
Personally Im happy with my GR at modest speeds. Always feels sporty. But does the commute easy too. So I dont quite get where reviewers are coming from in that regard.
I think that s the big difference between journalists who drive them for a few 100 miles - and people who own them

6-7-8 tenths is plenty sporty in the GRY - you are right!

I commuted back and forth to Heathrow the other day in mine, it s drama free easy peasy on the clutch and controls

Very easy car to live with - for one so capable, agree, very much agree with you

How long have you had yours now?

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6-9 months. Not sure exactly. You?

Dombilano

1,324 posts

75 months

Yesterday (15:03)
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Haha big shout out to Bitsa, used to love that as a kid

GTRene

20,425 posts

244 months

Yesterday (15:06)
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the outside of those latest model GRY yaris looks good, but such dash looks like a 80-tish car gaming console... for my eyes very bad not elegant, how could they get away with that?