RE: 2022 911 GT3 vs 2019 600LT | Spotted showdown!
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2022 911 GT3 vs 2019 600LT | Spotted showdown!

What to buy: the definitive German road racer or an authentic British supercar? You decide


Porsche 911 GT3 (992), 2022, 10k, PH Auction

Wholly predictable though nominating a GT3 as the ultimate road and track tool is, there’s a very good reason for it: as Carly Simon so famously sang, nobody does it better. Here’s a car that can be as everyday usable as a Carrera (especially so with a nose lift, as here), which retains the front boot an RS so conspicuously does without (meaning proper road trips are viable), and which can also lap the Nurburgring in little more than seven minutes. No other car can boast such a broad array of talents. Many have tried to copy the GT3 template, and some have come very close, but there remains no other sports car better suited to just about everything. 

So they don’t tend to change a great deal, or so it would seem: high-revving flat six, rear-drive, circuit optimised chassis and away you go. But every single time, for every single GT3, they just get that little bit better. Not always by a lot, but always by something. The 992, launched in 2022, was the perfect example, seemingly so similar to what went before that it had just 10hp more. But beneath a familiar silhouette was more downforce, a wider front track and double wishbone suspension for the first time, so it was even faster and more capable on track. Yet remained a joy to use on a road as well, alive and taut but still great company for getting to the circuit. 

Honestly, what more could you ask for? A manual gearbox? Sure, this one has it, a key point of difference compared to all comparable track cars. Some can still offer a naturally aspirated engine (think Corvette Z06), but nothing else can pair the joy of 9,000rpm with stirring your own six-speed shifts. And we all know how persuasive that combination will always be. This 2022 car also benefits from a Porsche service history, the manufacturer warranty until next year, and an MOT until August. Nothing to stop you, then, from as many road and track miles as possible this year; a GT3 makes any kind of driving pretty much irresistible.

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McLaren 600LT, 2019, 16k, £143,950

No doubt about it, the 992 iteration of the GT3 is fabulous. If you’re partial to the Porsche 911 specifically (and a manual ‘box generally), then there really is no substitute. But step back a pace or two and the car is not necessarily the last word in speed or dynamism or styling or interior ambience. Moreover, it almost goes without saying that for every poor soul daydreaming about GT3 ownership, there is another right-thinking enthusiast who would rather plunge their hand into a mousetrap than own a 911 of any stripe. And when it comes to Porsche’s famously selective policy of deciding who has earned a place in the queue to buy one new, who can blame them? 

Of course, it is partly thanks to this practice that prices rival champagne corks for buoyancy. Obviously we’ve no idea how much the auction lot above will fetch next week, but current 992 market trends suggest it will be easily enough to meet the starting price for a used McLaren 600LT. Which, all things being equal - and to paraphrase Sean Connery - is like bringing a knife to a gunfight. The Longtail version of the 570S is lighter (check), more powerful (check), possesses a V8 (check), mounted longitudinally in its middle (check) and looks like a proper, honest-to-goodness supercar (check). 

This one, admittedly in return for a premium, as the coupe is cheaper, is a Spider, which means it comes with the added benefit of panoramic views - a benefit that, thanks to the structural upsides of McLaren’s ubiquitous carbon fibre tub, comes with no downsides. But the most important thing is the fabulous, all-action way the 600LT drives, rivalling the connectedness of the GT3, yet without undoing a bewildering level of ride comfort familiar to virtually all McLarens. On track, it is savagely fast. Yes, it has a smaller boot, less space generally and much stupider infotainment - but those are hardly standout reasons to pay Porsche’s premium. What more could you ask for? All the ways the 600LT is different - and better value. 

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IAINSMITH

Original Poster:

168 posts

285 months

I absolutely love my 600LT, no contest for me !

Iamnotkloot

1,796 posts

168 months

Both great cars - I’m a bit of a Porsche fan but I’d go for the Mac.

Slowlygettingit

843 posts

62 months

And when it comes to Porsches famously selective policy of deciding who has earned a place in the queue to buy one new ..


Speaking to a mate who is the dealer principle of a Porsche franchise in the north east - he advises that yes Porsche limits the number of gt cars they are allocated but it is totally the dealers discretion as to who they are sold to. And frequently will be guided by HQ as to the best customers to contact.

Another mate recently went it to a dealership and ordered a gt4rs to his exact spec having never even been to that dealer before - they suggested he needed to buy something to go with it - he refused and placed the order via their finance and got it.
Interestingly there are quite a few brand new actual gt4rs in AT currently - and used ones prices have normalised now

It is the dealers playing these games not the manufacturer.



And btw I’d have either of these in a heartbeat just not in those colour schemes

Edited by Slowlygettingit on Wednesday 14th January 08:14

wistec1

710 posts

62 months

Between the two the Porsche would be my choice but with money to hand it would be the Gen 2 Honda nsx.

GreatScott2016

2,157 posts

109 months

The LT wouldn’t get a look in, GT3 for me all day long smile

Turbobanana

7,693 posts

222 months

I'd happily settle for either, being someone of limited means and therefore speaking purely hypothetically.

But could you have picked any duller-looking colour schemes? Or were they chosen to represent the national feeling of glumness at the moment?

Wab1974uk

1,225 posts

48 months

GT3 for me every day of the week.

Its Just Adz

17,360 posts

230 months

GreatScott2016 said:
The LT wouldn t get a look in, GT3 for me all day long smile
Yep, same here.
Wouldn't even consider phoning the dealer to maybe look at the McLaren.

BigChiefmuffinAgain

1,533 posts

119 months

That LT was probably about £220K new on the road and they are now on offer from about £135K. So have lost £90K over 6 years. That's actually not too bad for a McLaren...

Leftfootwonder

1,524 posts

79 months

Not even a contest. McLaren every time.

Chris_i8

2,324 posts

214 months

LT...although as others have said I wouldn't have either in those colours/specs.

Bispoto

137 posts

93 months

So I have manual 992.1 GT3 and it is sublime, but I can’t say I am not tempted by the McLaren, it’s just the dealers that put me, a pal having had a 570s.

Any one on here lucky enough to have had both and can share their experience?

andrewpandrew

1,814 posts

10 months

I think I'd have to toss a coin.

nismo48

6,038 posts

228 months

Turbobanana said:
I'd happily settle for either, being someone of limited means and therefore speaking purely hypothetically.

But could you have picked any duller-looking colour schemes? Or were they chosen to represent the national feeling of glumness at the moment?
Im with you wholeheartedly on that.

Qutaphon

34 posts

23 months

F12 for me

s2000db

1,333 posts

174 months

For me the one that’s actually exciting at road legal speeds and that’s the GT3 (I’ve driven both)!

Ray_Aber

718 posts

297 months

I wouldn't touch either of these particular examples, with their 1960s black and white TV blandness.

However, with the right spec, I would go for the McLaren. For me, spending such sums of money would not be a rational choice; it would be emotional. Which car moved me (no pun intended) more? The McLaren looks like a supercar (but I accept that the GT3 sounds more like a supercar), and looks are hugely important for me.

I can completely understand someone who would prefer the 911 GT3. It's a great car. But I prefer the McLaren.

RSbandit

2,996 posts

153 months

Fortunate enough to own a manual 992 GT3 (Lairy Racing Yellow) and a 675LT Spider (had a 600 Spider previously). Very different cars and the main reason I bought the Porsche was to have a manual transmission. The highest praise I can give the GT3 is that the steering feel and feedback is right up there with the McLarens, a really enjoyable and engaging car to drive on road or track. I think the McLarens are different league in terms of straight line pace and acceleration and of course look alot more exotic, the cracks and bangs on gearshifts really add to the theatre also. If I could only choose one it would be a 600/675 but the GT3 is a very accomplished car and a great overall package.

Portofino

5,017 posts

212 months

I’ve a Porsche itch right now so would have the GT3, enjoy it for a few years, then sell & go for a Mclaren.