RE: Peugeot 205 Rallye | Spotted
RE: Peugeot 205 Rallye | Spotted
Thursday 15th January

Peugeot 205 Rallye | Spotted

The LHD-only, homologation special hot hatch that isn't a Delta Integrale...


Nobody can fail to have noticed the astonishing asking prices attached to homologation specials right now. Almost anything roadgoing and related to motorsport, in fact. E30 M3s and Delta Integrales have been there for a while, of course, but now the best Audi Quattros, Subaru Imprezas and Mitsubishi Evos seem to be well on their way also. You might see £40k being asked for an automatic 190E 2.5 16. Even the GR Yaris, despite approximately four million having been sold, is clinging onto its value as fiercely as it does the tarmac. As interest seems to wane among enthusiasts for modern motorsport and modern cars, so the fervour surrounding older stuff intensifies. 

Which is a shame, because these cars are all absolutely stellar to drive in their own way - yet as they become worth so much more, inevitably the fear will creep in about using them as intended. An E30 track car made sense when they were £20k (or less); a rather different prospect when they’re five times that. So how about this as the ultimate palette cleanser? A Peugeot 205 Rallye, the left-hand drive one explicitly designed for Group N competition, as light as choux pastry and perhaps the rawest of all Peugeot's stripped-out specials. Which is saying something.  

The asking price is £12k, too, or less than most of the GTIs that you see for sale these days. A lot less, too, than anything else with tangible motorsport pedigree. Left-hand drive might make it a little less convenient in the UK than a GTI (or the RHD Rallye that was offered), but nobody tends to complain about that when it comes to M3s or Integrales. Plus, to be frank, if you’re struggling to see out of a 205, or park it, the problem isn’t really the car. 

Far from a cynical motorsport cash-in, the Rallye was unashamedly focused. As with the 106 Rallye that followed (a car very similar in ethos and performance), this 205 was to be as fast as a 1.3-litre, naturally aspirated Peugeot could be. So it weighed less than 800kg, revved to the moon and needed constant gearchanges. The stroke of the twin-carbed 1.3-litre TU was just 69mm, with peak power of 105hp made at 6,800rpm; 88lb ft was made at 5,000rpm, which are probably numbers never written down on PH before. A shorter final drive was fitted to take advantage, to keep the Rallye buzzing along where it was happiest, but that also meant 70mph in fifth needed 4,500rpm. You want hardcore? You got it. 

The fizz of that engine would have ensured a memorable experience; with a chassis that borrowed a lot of bits from the 1.6 GTI, driving a Rallye was properly manic - a true junior rally car for the road. Which is what did it for most of them, cars either converted for full competition or crashed. The bonnet pins on this one are said to be for light pods never fitted, before you say anything. And while there’s not a tonne of history from its early life in Europe, this particular Rallye has been in the UK, used and enjoyed, for a decade now. Just a few hundred miles and three years ago, the 205 had more than £4,500 spent to bring it back to its best.

It’s still going to want extended TLC, because it’s a 37-year-old French car that was designed to be driven everywhere on the door handles, but the incredible lightness and simplicity that makes it such a joy to drive should help with running it also. Hardly like a Rallye is going to be hard on brakes, for example. While this isn’t going to be a classic with modern sensibilities, something to be used on a really regular basis, those drives when they do come are going to feel so special. 

Will the Rallye appreciate like the other left-hand drive homologation cars? Probably not now, as it approaches 40; it’s known and appreciated by too few people. The GTI will be the one to have, as a driving device and collector's item, for most people. Great news, then, for those that just want to thrash around in the ultimate lightweight pocket rocket…


SPECIFICATION | PEUGEOT 205 RALLYE

Engine: 1,294cc, four-cyl
Transmission: 5-speed manual, front-wheel drive
Power (hp): 103@6,800rpm
Torque (lb ft): 89@5,000rpm
MPG: N/A
CO2: N/A
First registered: 1989
Recorded mileage: 39,601 (indicated)
Price new: N/A
Yours for: £12,495

See the original advert

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Nimerino

Original Poster:

301 posts

134 months

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A cooler car than a GTi, and significantly better to drive too. Someone is going to thoroughly enjoy this purchase.

Billy_Whizzzz

2,486 posts

164 months

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4500rpm at 70 is mad

Gad-Westy

16,104 posts

234 months

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£12.5k seems good value for one of these. I wonder how easy it would be to find some original seats. Lovely thing.

CLK-GTR

1,655 posts

266 months

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One of these has long been on the list, just need somewhere to put it!

PRO5T

6,721 posts

46 months

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I was going to ask, those seats weren’t originally like that were they?

Cool little thing and not too expensive for what it is but I’d hate to try and source parts for it.

Andy86GT

800 posts

86 months

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Be nice to see an engine bay picture. What carbs were used in these? I'm a big fan of a brace of 40 DCOEs as fitted to my old Sunbeam Ti

fantheman80

2,298 posts

70 months

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A flocked dash and the leather seats means someone's thought about that interior...just not in a cohesive way...

Much want though

mooseracer

2,564 posts

191 months

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Proper little car thumbup

Unlike the later UK version which wasn't.

PRO5T

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fantheman80 said:
A flocked dash and the leather seats means someone's thought about that interior...just not in a cohesive way...

Much want though
A couple of bucket seats and some sort of rear seat delete would look good, perhaps a white roll cage if not lightening the weight would add some peace of mind.

Jon_S_Rally

4,190 posts

109 months

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That's lovely. Peak 205 for me. Would have this over a GTI any day. The beauty of this one is that it's clearly been used and isn't 100% original, so you could continue to enjoy it without feeling guilty that you were ruining it.

I'd ditch the rear seats, put some buckets in the front and it would be perfect.

Picanto_superleggera

163 posts

32 months

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Billy_Whizzzz said:
4500rpm at 70 is mad
And because it is so peaky, you might still have to drop a cog for an uphill stretch!

Kawasaki2000

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A car that looks right 40 years later. It could have been Peugeots Golf but somehow successive generations were somehow always worse. I have fond memories of my 106xsi (the 1.6) and I think if I was throwing money at a stripped out special it would be the 106.

Turbobanana

7,708 posts

222 months

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PRO5T said:
... I'd hate to try and source parts for it...
I would imagine almost everything is available from a Peugeot dealer. Even if you had to source it from France.

Krikkit

27,758 posts

202 months

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Picanto_superleggera said:
Billy_Whizzzz said:
4500rpm at 70 is mad
And because it is so peaky, you might still have to drop a cog for an uphill stretch!
Not when it's a whiff under 800kg

Inline5

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63 months

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Oh yes…..fabulous

Turbobanana

7,708 posts

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Krikkit said:
Picanto_superleggera said:
Billy_Whizzzz said:
4500rpm at 70 is mad
And because it is so peaky, you might still have to drop a cog for an uphill stretch!
Not when it's a whiff under 800kg
Indeed: the 106 Rallye I had in 1995 had the same engine and was about 25kg more. That thing flew, and would comfortably hit its 7200rpm red line in the intermediate gears.

nismo48

6,050 posts

228 months

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Andy86GT said:
Be nice to see an engine bay picture. What carbs were used in these? I'm a big fan of a brace of 40 DCOEs as fitted to my old Sunbeam Ti
Agreed, 76 pictures in the advertisement and what is the heart of the manic little beast isn't shown.
Great find nevertheless.

Terminator X

19,145 posts

225 months

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The French know how to build stripped out specials that are almost impossible to sell wink

There is one of these tucked away in storage at Bicester Heritage I noticed.

TX.

miniman

29,069 posts

283 months

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Andy86GT said:
Be nice to see an engine bay picture. What carbs were used in these? I'm a big fan of a brace of 40 DCOEs as fitted to my old Sunbeam Ti
Webers you say? ears I've just acquired some of those thumbup


speciald

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192 months

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Lovely