RE: Honda unveils Aston F1 engine, confirms Type R HRC
RE: Honda unveils Aston F1 engine, confirms Type R HRC
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Honda unveils Aston F1 engine, confirms Type R HRC

Fed up with Honda's turgid lineup? Well, it promises to 'leverage' its return to F1 for the better...


Formula One, in case you hadn’t noticed, is fast becoming the place to be. Seemingly every CEO with a Netflix account is adamant their underlings find a way to get the firm’s logo into the pit lane in 2026. Some, like Cadillac and Audi, have acquired a whole team. Others are taking advantage of the new engine regulations to throw their hat into the power unit manufacturer ring. Red Bull and Ford were the high-level collaboration being talked about last week; this week Honda has chosen to show us the new PU it will supply to Aston Martin this season. 

Of course, the company is no Johnny-come-lately to the business of F1 - it can trace its participation back to 1964 and is responsible for some of the most famous engines ever to grace the sport - though it is one of the OEMs that claims to have been enticed back by a far-reaching change in regulations. In a nutshell, the 2026-onwards PU will retain a tweaked 1.6-litre turbocharged V6, but drastically reconfigure the Motor-Generator Unit (i.e. the hybrid bit) so that it better resembles the recuperation technology used in road cars. It ought to make them slightly simpler; certainly it will make the power supplied by the electrical system around three times more formidable. 

Naturally, its maker said precious little about such technical details when it unveiled RA626H in Tokyo, except to acknowledge that it has developed the new sustainable fuel-driven unit under the restrictive cost cap system, and that any car powered by it - or any other Honda Racing Corporation (HRC) engine for that matter - would feature the refreshed H mark design revealed just last week. You can hardly miss it on the 2026 Aston Martin F1 car mockup. 

Of more interest was the messaging surrounding the unveiling, not least because it made implicit the idea that HRC’s involvement would extend to its road cars - a notion that it revealed on stage at the Tokyo Auto Salon earlier this month. You can expect to hear other manufacturers talk about ‘leveraging’ the technology and experience it accrues in F1 this year (as they always do), but confirmation Honda would ‘introduce HRC-spec production models that offer further refined driving performance’ was a welcome revelation. 

Even more so when Honda announced that among those new variants would be a ‘production model based on the Civic Type R HRC Concept’ - i.e. the aggressively bodykit’d and very colourful show car that featured on its Tokyo stand. Aside from the visible tweaks to its appearance, little was said about the model at the time, apart from the idea that it “further refines the joy of handling that only Honda can offer, honed at the forefront of racing”. Which is a fairly exciting prospect given how much joy the current CTR is already capable of dispensing. 

Granted, that excitement must be tempered by the Type R's slow death in Europe this year, a result of its failure to satisfy incoming emissions legislation. The chances of an HRC edition slipping under the wire seem impossibly remote at this stage. Perhaps we should cling instead to the possibility that the new Prelude will get the same treatment; a thought underwritten not just by Honda’s proclamation on bringing driving happiness to a ‘broader range of customers’, but by a fixed rear wing-wearing HRC concept on the very same Tokyo show stand. We can but hope, eh?


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MOOSECORTINA

Original Poster:

244 posts

100 months

Yesterday (06:55)
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With a battery now supplying 50% of the power does the engine still matter? I am losing interest in F1.

PRO5T

6,761 posts

46 months

Yesterday (07:19)
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Not keen on the new logo, prefer the traditional red Honda badge, this looks like someone simply said "red won't work with green, come up with something else".

Andy86GT

807 posts

86 months

Yesterday (07:48)
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It's slightly odd that Honda want to be involved in F1.
Given the 'win on Sunday, sell on Monday', now the CTR is gone what exactly can us enthusiasts go and buy on Monday ?

Wolfie87

330 posts

224 months

Yesterday (07:55)
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I like the sound of a HRC 'lude!..... 2.2.... believe yeah!

fantheman80

2,309 posts

70 months

Yesterday (07:57)
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PRO5T said:
Not keen on the new logo, prefer the traditional red Honda badge, this looks like someone simply said "red won't work with green, come up with something else".
The new logo is not new really, it’s basically their original one from 1963 with couple of tweaks.

As an FL5 owner, the engine mods are said to be intercooler, intake and remap, which while nice to have from the actual manufacturer, it’s 4 years late. Having said that, early cars, and in my case this summer, out of warranty where some start modding, so might be good timing and if they offered some sort of warranty to differentiate from the many, many other after market choices be worth a look but can’t see it. Be interesting to see the styling mods, but americas HRC division did a better job on the Integra type S HRC concept

Wolfie87

330 posts

224 months

Yesterday (07:57)
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PRO5T said:
Not keen on the new logo, prefer the traditional red Honda badge, this looks like someone simply said "red won't work with green, come up with something else".
It looks like the old Honda badge, doesn't look 'new' to me, just back to an original design that was good. But then im old an remember cars knocking about with that badge on.

DeejRC

8,525 posts

103 months

Yesterday (08:02)
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Andy86GT said:
It's slightly odd that Honda want to be involved in F1.
Given the 'win on Sunday, sell on Monday', now the CTR is gone what exactly can us enthusiasts go and buy on Monday ?
An Aston?

fantheman80

2,309 posts

70 months

Yesterday (08:17)
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Andy86GT said:
It's slightly odd that Honda want to be involved in F1.
Given the 'win on Sunday, sell on Monday', now the CTR is gone what exactly can us enthusiasts go and buy on Monday ?
Personally hoping it means a hybrid type R isn’t completely off the table

PRO5T

6,761 posts

46 months

Yesterday (08:22)
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Wolfie87 said:
PRO5T said:
Not keen on the new logo, prefer the traditional red Honda badge, this looks like someone simply said "red won't work with green, come up with something else".
It looks like the old Honda badge, doesn't look 'new' to me, just back to an original design that was good. But then im old an remember cars knocking about with that badge on.

Andy86GT

807 posts

86 months

Yesterday (08:53)
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fantheman80 said:
Andy86GT said:
It's slightly odd that Honda want to be involved in F1.
Given the 'win on Sunday, sell on Monday', now the CTR is gone what exactly can us enthusiasts go and buy on Monday ?
Personally hoping it means a hybrid type R isn t completely off the table
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CaptainBeyond

4 posts

Yesterday (09:02)
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Not a word about the modified Prelude? Despite the underwhelming reveal, I suspected at the time it would make a good base for some tinkering.

Jon_S_Rally

4,193 posts

109 months

Yesterday (09:27)
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Andy86GT said:
It's slightly odd that Honda want to be involved in F1.
Given the 'win on Sunday, sell on Monday', now the CTR is gone what exactly can us enthusiasts go and buy on Monday ?
The Civic Type-R is still sold in several markets. It's been pulled from Europe, not globally.

CaptainBeyond said:
Not a word about the modified Prelude? Despite the underwhelming reveal, I suspected at the time it would make a good base for some tinkering.
You mean this bit..

article said:
Perhaps we should cling instead to the possibility that the new Prelude will get the same treatment; a thought underwritten not just by Honda’s proclamation on bringing driving happiness to a ‘broader range of customers’, but by a fixed rear wing-wearing HRC concept on the very same Tokyo show stand. We can but hope, eh?

Jader1973

4,777 posts

221 months

Yesterday (09:28)
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Wolfie87 said:
It looks like the old Honda badge, doesn't look 'new' to me, just back to an original design that was good. But then im old an remember cars knocking about with that badge on.
When I first saw it a few months ago I said the same thing. It’s pretty much identical to the one used in the 60s.


Angelo1985

672 posts

47 months

Yesterday (09:36)
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F1 has been a saddening bore for ages. Well before the hybrid era

CaptainBeyond

4 posts

Yesterday (09:44)
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Jon_S_Rally said:
You mean this bit..

article said:
Perhaps we should cling instead to the possibility that the new Prelude will get the same treatment; a thought underwritten not just by Honda s proclamation on bringing driving happiness to a broader range of customers , but by a fixed rear wing-wearing HRC concept on the very same Tokyo show stand. We can but hope, eh?
Gah! Need to remember to read twice, post once.

Geoffcapes

1,068 posts

185 months

Yesterday (09:45)
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Angelo1985 said:
F1 has been a saddening bore for ages. Well before the hybrid era
Indeed. Le Mans is the only race I watch these days.

Terminator X

19,210 posts

225 months

Yesterday (09:55)
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MOOSECORTINA said:
With a battery now supplying 50% of the power does the engine still matter? I am losing interest in F1.
Agreed. They are in danger of disappearing up their own arse. Anyone who thinks F1 is contributing "significant" CO2 needs to give their head a wobble. Bring back the V10's FFS, it's entertainment after all.

TX.

J4CKO

45,494 posts

221 months

Yesterday (10:10)
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Angelo1985 said:
F1 has been a saddening bore
’Cause we’ve seen it ten times or more We could spit in the eyes of fools As they ask us to focus on...

Audi fighting in the pit lane Oh man, look at those MGU-Ks go It’s the geekiest show...

spikyone

1,834 posts

121 months

Yesterday (10:13)
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J4CKO said:
Angelo1985 said:
F1 has been a saddening bore
Cause we ve seen it ten times or more We could spit in the eyes of fools As they ask us to focus on...

Audi fighting in the pit lane Oh man, look at those MGU-Ks go It s the geekiest show...
beer

JJJ.

4,025 posts

36 months

Yesterday (10:56)
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Angelo1985 said:
F1 has been a saddening bore for ages. Well before the hybrid era
Delighted to say, I haven't watched it for the past fifteen years.