RE: Singer partners with Red Bull on 964 Cabrio
RE: Singer partners with Red Bull on 964 Cabrio
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Singer partners with Red Bull on 964 Cabrio

Red Bull gives you wings - and a 175 per cent increase in torsional rigidity


It’s a problem faced by car companies the world over. Doesn’t matter how much is charged, how rare the car is or how much power is under the bonnet, once the roof is off a hard-top car the underlying structure, to one degree or another, will suffer. It won’t ride as nicely, handle as crisply, or accelerate quite as vividly (the latter thanks to the weight added by a folding roof). For most it’s an acceptable compromise for wind-in-the-air joy, but then Singer Vehicle Design (and its customers) are not most car people. It wouldn’t be unreasonable, when spending a million on a car, to brook no compromise whatsoever - even if it looks like a 30-year-old Porsche. 

So, of course, Singer has a money-no-object solution to the age-old issue of wobbly drop-tops: it’s called in Red Bull. What with a lot of commissions using the turbocharged flat six, boasting a significant step up in performance, the need for a flex-free Cabriolet or Targa is more pressing than ever. So Singer ‘asked Red Bull Advanced Technologies to deploy their world-class capabilities in simulation and structural analysis’. That meant using Finite Element Analysis to work out just how rigid both coupe and convertible were, then to identify where the latter was losing out to the former and attempt to address those weak spots. Soft top chassis technology has come a long way since the '90s; where the best cabrios are almost - almost - indistinguishable from their hard-top counterparts these days, that certainly wasn’t the case in the late 20th century. 

Red Bull’s fix is a formation of 13 carbon fibre structures to reinforce the 964 chassis, bonded to the monocoque during Singer’s extensive restoration and said to boast torsional rigidity by 175 per cent. Singer is emphatic about the results: ‘This increased chassis rigidity benefits handling, braking and overall refinement, with the driving experience of the open-roofed cars now matching that of the coupe.’ The best of both worlds, then, in theory: traditional top-down thrills, with all the dynamic discipline that Singer’s reimagined Porsches have become globally renowned for. And, presumably, little in terms of weight penalty. 

Singer’s Chief Strategy Officer Maz Fawaz said of the link-up: “Our clients are some of the most discerning drivers in the world. To achieve the standards they have come to expect, we work only with the best, and our search for expertise in this area led us to Red Bull Advanced Technologies. Since 2009 our approach has brought heritage together with cutting edge engineering, and Red Bull’s mastery of advanced materials, simulation and structural analysis perfectly exemplifies this approach. The results underline the extraordinary lengths we go to in our relentless pursuit of excellence”. As if a Singer of some kind wasn’t beguiling enough already. Best get hold of a 964 cabriolet now, in fact, before they’re all wanted for carbon-enhanced restomodding and prices climb further… 


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JJJ.

Original Poster:

4,222 posts

37 months

Yesterday (10:16)
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Disregarding my ambivalence towards 911 restromods, I really like this type of modification and engineering. Personally, can't fault it. I'll have the Targa sans the in your face wing.

Edited by JJJ. on Tuesday 3rd February 10:26

Bonefish Blues

34,265 posts

245 months

Yesterday (10:20)
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Anyone remember Kiki from Hector's House? Then look at the bottom image.

Just me then? hehe

Geoffcapes

1,087 posts

186 months

Yesterday (10:25)
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Ooooffffff!!!

I'd have that in a heartbeat!

If only I had the money......

WTDMM

53 posts

6 months

Yesterday (10:26)
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The want is massively strong with this. Stunning, especially if the torsional rigidity is equal to the coupe etc. Wow Wow Wow

el romeral

1,884 posts

159 months

Yesterday (11:04)
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I wanted to dislike this immensely, due to Red Bull s involvement. Doohh I can’t though, it looks rather splendid.

Edited by el romeral on Tuesday 3rd February 11:07

BUG4LIFE

2,421 posts

240 months

Yesterday (11:33)
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I know every man and his dog is doing 911 restomods, but my god I want one of those!!!

Dohnut

646 posts

68 months

Yesterday (11:43)
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Ooof possibly my favourite Singer’s to date.

Kipsrs

637 posts

71 months

Yesterday (12:28)
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That targa! Lordy I have a lot of want for that, with the classic whale tail too! Beautiful!

JJJ.

Original Poster:

4,222 posts

37 months

Yesterday (12:39)
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Kipsrs said:
That targa! Lordy I have a lot of want for that, with the classic whale tail too! Beautiful!
You're 90% give or take correct. biggrin

Puddenchucker

5,323 posts

240 months

Yesterday (12:41)
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Whilst the whole resto-mod 911 thing is now getting a bit repetitive, seen-it-done-it-all-before, they are some very nice looking cars.

MC Bodge

27,168 posts

197 months

Yesterday (13:00)
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I like blue one.

I was very pleased to see that it wasn't a Red Bull liveried car, with a giant can on the rear deck!

fantheman80

2,342 posts

71 months

Yesterday (13:29)
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MC Bodge said:
I like blue one.

I was very pleased to see that it wasn't a Red Bull liveried car, with a giant can on the rear deck!
smile I remember those

That is stunning. I'd have that over the yellow Ferrari ice scraper every time.

LotusOmega375D

9,019 posts

175 months

Yesterday (13:48)
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Judging by the impact bumpers, these look more 930 style to me than 964. So back-dated one model. Also the wheels need to be much bigger! wink

nismo48

6,131 posts

229 months

Yesterday (13:59)
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LotusOmega375D said:
Judging by the impact bumpers, these look more 930 style to me than 964. So back-dated one model. Also the wheels need to be much bigger! wink
Agreed on the wheels, just a tad too small wink

Robertb

3,280 posts

260 months

Yesterday (14:01)
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I didnt know Red Bull did the engineering for their F1 efforts, I just thought they were the main sponsor.

I'd love to see Singer do an actual 964, that looks like a 964 but with their attention to detail and enhancement. The wide-body 964 Turbo 3.6 and Anniversary are outstanding-looking cars, one of my favourite Porsches.

MC Bodge

27,168 posts

197 months

Yesterday (14:07)
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fantheman80 said:
I'd have that over the yellow Ferrari ice scraper every time.
Absolutely

siwhit

78 posts

203 months

Yesterday (14:11)
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That blue cabrio is stunning

AB

19,423 posts

217 months

Yesterday (14:20)
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The blue one is perfection

NGK210

4,463 posts

167 months

Yesterday (14:28)
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That’s very f*cking lovely.
Targa, no wing, please.
Perfect daily.
And a Nichols N1A for giggle duties:
https://www.evo.co.uk/reviews/208483/nichols-n1a-r...
Meanwhile, Ferrari please note: less is more.

WPA

13,337 posts

136 months

Yesterday (14:39)
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The Targa is stunning but would be better without the rear wing