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£25k BMW i8 | Spotted

Once the future of BMW, the i8 is now an intriguing part of its past - and available for Mini money


History is littered with cool, clever cars that were never wholeheartedly embraced by the buying public. Think Audi A2, original Honda Insight, first Mercedes A-Class and so on. It’s a list that the founding BMW i cars, the i3 and i8, certainly belong on. They sold, for sure, but the fact that neither were (or will) be directly replaced - which is unusual for BMW - would imply they weren’t the commercial success required to justify their sizeable engineering cost. 

Both the city car and the sports car looked hugely ambitious more than a decade ago, with lightweight construction, futuristic design and electrification prominent. While now there are more small, innovative electric cars (not before time), there really has been nothing like the i8 in the years since its introduction. A Porsche 911 hybrid offers no EV range, PHEVs that do tend to use a large combustion engine (negating much mpg advantage) and still nothing looks quite as good as the car BMW launched in 2014. Probably nothing ever will. 

The i8 wasn’t perfect, that’s in no doubt. Those expecting a traditionally BMW attitude to the handling were disappointed, without the pointy front end or adjustable rear that would characterise the M cars of the era. Those prone to boasting wouldn’t have much to shout about with a Mini engine under the bonnet either. And a carbon tub can be prone road roar. As well as being prohibitively expensive to fix. 

Regardless, the i8 felt different - and felt super special, too. With some familiar BMW bits, sure, but with great grand touring abilities, the whizz of electric driving on offer and the sort of fuel consumption totally alien to this level of performance. The i8 wasn’t like any BMW before or since, or any comparable sports car. It was boldly, defiantly - and very likeably - its own thing. Anyone who has taken the plunge, at least as far as the PH Buying Guide goes, haven’t been plagued by too much trouble either. The i8 was as well-built and dependable as any other BMW of the time. Probably more so, in fact, as this car was tasked with launching an entirely new, electrified sub brand, and to serve as its flagship. 

The discussion around exactly what the i8 did achieve will continue for a good while yet, especially as BMW fully leans into its new Neue Klasse era. In the meantime, prices continue to fall into ever more affordable territory: that 2020 guide put prices as from £37,000, or almost £60,000 off the original, before options RRP; now that’s £25,000, as evidenced by this 80,000-miler. And while there will be some with more desirable extras than others, there’s no such thing as a duff i8 spec - they all have the same powertrain, they all look spectacular, they’re all still going to attract supercar levels of attention for supermini money.

This one had £8,000 of boxes ticked when new, meaning it would have been more than £100,000 in 2015; it had a major service 4,000 miles ago, a minor one last month, and the MOT tester has only ever taken issues with the state of the tyres. All pretty encouraging. Those wanting a plug-in hybrid M car, or a 911 by BMW, will likely be disappointed. But those after a fast, capable GT that still looks a million bucks (while costing a whole lot less than that to buy and run) will still find an awful lot to like.


SPECIFICATION | BMW I8

Engine: 1,499cc 3-cyl turbo plus 7.1kWh lithium-ion battery pack and electric motor
Transmission: 6-speed automatic, four-wheel drive
Power (hp): 362 (combustion engine 231@5,800rpm, electric motor 131@4,800rpm)
Torque (lb ft): 420 (combustion engine 236@3,700rpm, electric motor 184@0rpm)
MPG: 134.5 (NEDC combined)
CO2: 49g/km
First registered: 2015
Recorded mileage: 80,000
Price new: £94,845 (2014, before options)
Yours for: £25,990

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badgerracing

Original Poster:

147 posts

251 months

I had one of these for twelve months and it was absolutely brilliant. I test drove it against a 991.1 Carrera and it felt much quicker and better put together. Slightly slower than a Carrera S mind. It replaced an R35 GT-R and was more relaxing to drive and cost half as much to run (which was important with a long commute). They're not a car for you if you're obsessed by big numbers and 0-60 times (though they're not slow), but they are definitely more than the sum of their parts.

Massively misunderstood. It's not a sports car to drive on its door handles, it's an eye catching GT for daily use. The only thing it was missing was adaptive cruise (and CarPlay which was easy enough to fit after market). The electric mode is relaxing for stop-start traffic and you could run most short (<15mile) journeys in electric only mode if you plugged it in.

Storage is limited, but you have the (tiny) back seats. Only reason I sold it was a child on the way, otherwise I wouldn't t have replaced it. Pregnant partner wasn't overly happy dropping over the sill into the low front seats either.

Can't recommend them enough - £25k is a bargain. Always a great experience flicking the doors up and dropping into the cabin - it feels special. From what I hear from owners is that like mine they are are very reliable.

Edited by badgerracing on Thursday 19th February 04:43

brillomaster

1,675 posts

192 months

Intriguing car, these... on the one hand, a 3 cylinder engine and 'only' 360bhp sounds a bit weedy, but as you say, that's comparable to a base 911 so no slouch. Wonder what this would have been like with a 350bhp turbocharged v6 as the ICE component, for example.

You're right though - as a sportscar, they're somewhat compromised, but as a GT they make a lot more sense. More comparable to an old 6 series than a cayman or evora rival.

How is the usable storage space? Could you fit a two man tent in somewhere and take it down to le mans, for example?

Billy_Whizzzz

2,526 posts

165 months

Incredibly tempted. Really want to scratch the i8 itch.

Motormouth88

695 posts

82 months

“and still nothing looks quite as good as the car BMW launched in 2014. Probably nothing ever will“ ummmmm really? To me its an absolute mess and can think of countless other cars that look better than this

ManInTheCornershop

2,150 posts

218 months

As Jason Cammisa pointed out on his YT review, they look like they are pooping out a 911 of some vintage. I cant unsee it now…

v8notbrave

187 posts

35 months

Brave pants needed to consider this ageing tech unless you live very near an i8 specialist. Would want much newer for me. You must be able to get a battery health report which ad ignores???

biggbn

29,866 posts

242 months

Lots of want for one of these. What a wonderful, innovative car.

badgerracing

Original Poster:

147 posts

251 months

brillomaster said:
Intriguing car, these... on the one hand, a 3 cylinder engine and 'only' 360bhp sounds a bit weedy, but as you say, that's comparable to a base 911 so no slouch. Wonder what this would have been like with a 350bhp turbocharged v6 as the ICE component, for example.

You're right though - as a sportscar, they're somewhat compromised, but as a GT they make a lot more sense. More comparable to an old 6 series than a cayman or evora rival.

How is the usable storage space? Could you fit a two man tent in somewhere and take it down to le mans, for example?
Small boot behind the engine and decent storage in the back seats so a tent would definitely fit. Would be a great Le Mans car with enough space. Nothing under the bonnet - it doesn’t open.
I used Seasuckers to put my bike on the roof.
Feels faster than 360bhp because of the torque from 0rpm. The equivalent 911 you need to wind up a bit.
You can also tune the 3 cylinder engine a bit with Mini specialists if you want more power.

5lab

1,812 posts

218 months

How do the rear seats compare to a 911 or gt86? I've 2 smallish kids (just out of car seats so the perfect size for +2 seating) and they can get in a gt86 ok, always wondered if this is an option as well

Promised Land

5,245 posts

231 months

Impressive it’s got handed alloys, rare to see that on a car.

Can you run these without ever plugging it in to a charger?

GianiCakes

576 posts

95 months

Good owner review from badgerracing. As he alludes to it’s not a great car if you wear a skirt but I do think there’s some future classic potential here. From what I can see depreciation is now limited and the average mileage suggests people are really using them.

Still Mulling

15,574 posts

199 months

I have been doing a lot of reading and been sorely tempted by one of these for a few months now. This is not helping! hehe

Ray_Aber

738 posts

298 months

GianiCakes said:
Good owner review from badgerracing. As he alludes to it s not a great car if you wear a skirt but I do think there s some future classic potential here. From what I can see depreciation is now limited and the average mileage suggests people are really using them.
As am infrequent kilt wearer, I am (infrequently) stuffed then....

Great car - fabulous inside, and really striking and (still) futuristic outside. It's not classically beautiful, but it's a very well resolved design, and I love it. I can understand those who do not.

Anyone know how much more power can be teased out of the Mini engine? Does it need more power?

Mine in that amazing metallic orange please!

Edited by Ray_Aber on Thursday 19th February 07:56

RedLightGreenLight

94 posts

46 months

I am surprised these have dropped so low in price, always thought these will be a future classic. This particular example has quite high mileage though as a collectors item

paddy1970

1,307 posts

131 months

v8notbrave said:
Brave pants needed to consider this ageing tech unless you live very near an i8 specialist. Would want much newer for me. You must be able to get a battery health report which ad ignores???
That's the main worry: the ad doesn't mention a battery health report, which is a red flag on a 10-year-old PHEV with 80k miles.

Replacement cost is the scary part. A new BMW i8 battery pack was historically quoted at £15,000–£20,000+ from BMW directly. However, the aftermarket is developing — some specialists (e.g. EV remanufacturers) can rebuild or replace individual cells for considerably less, potentially £5,000–£8,000, though availability varies and this is still a niche area.

CaptainBeyond

15 posts

1 month

I smile every time I see one, brilliant piece of blue sky thinking that made it to the real world.

PSB1967

419 posts

178 months

These were on my shortlist when I was looking for my next car, which I decided needed to be Carbon bodied. I think they look amazing.

But there's not enough storage space for my life, something I found disappointing considering its size.

And a previous Prince engine experience made me nervous about having a car with anything Mini in it. The B38 seems to have a better reliability record than the prince, so I was wrong on that.

They still look epic, especially in Roadster form. Must have the Turbine wheels though love

Chris_i8

2,342 posts

215 months

Promised Land said:
Can you run these without ever plugging it in to a charger?
Yes, plugging in to mains optional.
In Sport mode the engine is always on and acts as a generator to recharge the battery....given the small battery capacity this doesn't take long.

Cheers,

Chris

GianiCakes

576 posts

95 months

paddy1970 said:
That's the main worry: the ad doesn't mention a battery health report, which is a red flag on a 10-year-old PHEV with 80k miles.

Replacement cost is the scary part. A new BMW i8 battery pack was historically quoted at £15,000 £20,000+ from BMW directly. However, the aftermarket is developing some specialists (e.g. EV remanufacturers) can rebuild or replace individual cells for considerably less, potentially £5,000 £8,000, though availability varies and this is still a niche area.
I’m not sure how much of a concern this is in reality, at least relative to all the other expensive components in a modern car. I mean hybrids and EV’s have been out for decades at this point and we really haven’t heard about the battery life being any kind of systemic issue. That includes millions of Uber used Prius with moon miles.

EV8

428 posts

25 months

How on earth are interesting cars so cheap in UK?
I really do not get it.
It would be very very hard to get one in Europe for about 40k .
There is one for 42k with 230.000km!

I wanted one some years ago, but went with Audi R8 instead. You know, 3cylinder engine is, um, not for me. And somehow fake noise generator is somehow OK now on these?