RE: Alfa to reopen new Quadrifoglio orders in Europe
RE: Alfa to reopen new Quadrifoglio orders in Europe
Yesterday

Alfa to reopen new Quadrifoglio orders in Europe

European sales for iconic Giulia and Stelvio flagships to resume in March as Alfa figures out what to do next 


The writing appeared to be very much on the wall for the Alfa Romeo Quadrifoglios: new legislation loomed, as did a new direction for its parent company, to say nothing of the advances made by the competitor cars of the Giulia and Stelvio. We had written a Cars to be thankful for story on the former, grateful for the time we’d had with a brilliant super-saloon, and waited for the next (electrified) chapter to begin. Only for the next chapter to be unceremoniously binned - or at the very least, so significantly delayed that both Giulia and Stelvio V6s will soldier on for the foreseeable. 

Today the brand has confirmed - by Alfa CEO Santo Ficili, no less - that European reservations will open again in early March (having been closed last year) and the two Quadrifoglios will continue ‘in Europe through 2027.’ He added that the reopening of order books is “the best way to celebrate one of the most famous symbols in the automotive world, which brings with it a century-old quest for technical excellence applied to competitions and production cars. The Quadrifoglio is the most authentic expression of Alfa Romeo sportiness and of our cars, designed for real fans of driving, with the focus always on the driver. We're sure it will continue to inspire our future.”

Alfa’s longer term challenge, clearly, is working out exactly what that future will be, as a previously EV-focused roadmap now looks even less viable than it first did. But that can of worms is for another day: for now at any rate, the much-loved old 520hp stagers continue. 

However, while this extension is undoubtedly good news (because imagine how exciting collecting one of these brand new in 2027 will be), there really is a time limit this time around. While the first round of Euro 7 legislation comes into force later this year, the pair of Alfas can continue unaffected (as it only applies to newly launched cars), from 29 November 2027 all cars on sale must comply.

And it would be very surprising if the twin-turbo 2.9 can be homologated as they are, given the strictness is forcing BMW to significantly rework its existing engines to ensure their survival. So that’s why there’s an extension to 2027, but not beyond…

Still, some time left is better than none - they really are a sensational duo of performance cars. Plus, well, is a new Audi RS5 or Mercedes GLE 53 really much more appealing as a fast family car? Exactly. Currently in the UK the Giulia and Stelvio Quadrifoglio are priced from £86,885 and £95,890 respectively, but there are surely going to be deals to be done on such expensive cars approaching the end of their time on sale (again). Or, if there’s not, there are QFs in the classifieds from last year with almost £25,000 off...


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GreatScott2016

Original Poster:

2,222 posts

110 months

Yesterday (12:59)
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Gosh, the saloon is a very pretty car!

croyde

25,462 posts

252 months

Yesterday (13:08)
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One was sat next to me on a gridlocked M25 the other day. They are gorgeous smile

thelostboy

4,699 posts

247 months

Yesterday (13:09)
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Love the QF but the M3 is already feels lightyears ahead in some aspects. To think there are spy shots of the NEXT M3 and they are still selling the same Alfa from 2017.

They need to be discounted massively.

Terminator X

19,428 posts

226 months

Yesterday (13:28)
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O/T but it looks like Euro7 is coming for the EV's too:

AI Summary

"Key Features of Euro 7
Emission Limits
Broader Scope: Euro 7 applies to all new petrol, diesel, hybrid, and electric vehicles.
Non-Exhaust Emissions: For the first time, it includes limits on pollutants from brakes and tyres, addressing microplastic pollution.
Real-World Testing: Vehicles will be tested under various conditions, including high temperatures and short journeys, to ensure compliance.
Compliance Period
Extended Duration: Vehicles must meet emissions standards for up to 10 years or 200,000 kilometers (124,000 miles), doubling the previous requirements under Euro 6.
Battery Durability
Electric Vehicles: New standards will also include testing for the durability and performance of electric vehicle batteries.
Implementation Timeline
Effective Date: Euro 7 is set to come into effect in July 2025, with full compliance expected by late 2026.
Impact on Vehicle Manufacturers
Manufacturers will need to adapt their production processes to meet these stricter standards. This includes improving technology to reduce both exhaust and non-exhaust emissions, ensuring vehicles are cleaner and more efficient."

TX.

Clivey

5,564 posts

226 months

Yesterday (13:30)
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thelostboy said:
Love the QF but the M3 is already feels lightyears ahead in some aspects. To think there are spy shots of the NEXT M3 and they are still selling the same Alfa from 2017.

They need to be discounted massively.
Novelty does not equal quality. Not all of us want something infested with intrusive tech, touchscreens or that has fallen not just out of the ugly tree but down the mountain it was growing on.

disco666

514 posts

168 months

Yesterday (13:31)
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thelostboy said:
Love the QF but the M3 is already feels lightyears ahead in some aspects. To think there are spy shots of the NEXT M3 and they are still selling the same Alfa from 2017.

They need to be discounted massively.
It depends on what you mean by 'light years ahead'.
More and more people are coming to the conclusion that cars peaked somewhere between 2000 and 2020.
Newer does not necessarily mean better.

Oz83

720 posts

161 months

Yesterday (13:36)
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Oooof!

Giulia in green please and as I'm in Europe with the steering wheel on the wrong side, it would be a manual :-)


Wadeski

8,815 posts

235 months

Yesterday (13:37)
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Great looking things. Not sure why they never offered a "grande" Stelvio with a 3rd row...certainly would have made addtional sales in the USA.


Jamescrs

5,834 posts

87 months

Yesterday (13:38)
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thelostboy said:
Love the QF but the M3 is already feels lightyears ahead in some aspects. To think there are spy shots of the NEXT M3 and they are still selling the same Alfa from 2017.

They need to be discounted massively.
Even as a massive BMW fanboy (and F82 M4 owner) if they were discounted massively I'd definitely be in the queue, I'm not sure I see it happening though

dodgydelboy75000

43 posts

116 months

Yesterday (13:38)
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Anyone who thinks a BMW is a better buy than a Alpha needs to have a word with themselves. If money isn't a worry that is.

Honeywell

1,612 posts

120 months

Yesterday (13:45)
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Lovely things. If you want a 500bhp RWD car why the hell wouldn't you have one of these? Germany still make good sausages and fine beer but rewarding interesting fun saloon cars went away quite some years ago now.

Wardy78

2,464 posts

80 months

Yesterday (13:47)
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This is great news, the more there are on the used market, the better.

A friend had one, I drove it once. one of the best cars I have ever driven. His was totally reliable but still a brave pill needed to own, but I really hope to one day, even as a second car alongside a compliant, dull daily.


Terminator X said:
O/T but it looks like Euro7 is coming for the EV's too:

AI Summary

"Key Features of Euro 7
Emission Limits
Broader Scope: Euro 7 applies to all new petrol, diesel, hybrid, and electric vehicles.
Non-Exhaust Emissions: For the first time, it includes limits on pollutants from brakes and tyres, addressing microplastic pollution.
Real-World Testing: Vehicles will be tested under various conditions, including high temperatures and short journeys, to ensure compliance.
Compliance Period
Extended Duration: Vehicles must meet emissions standards for up to 10 years or 200,000 kilometers (124,000 miles), doubling the previous requirements under Euro 6.
Battery Durability
Electric Vehicles: New standards will also include testing for the durability and performance of electric vehicle batteries.
Implementation Timeline
Effective Date: Euro 7 is set to come into effect in July 2025, with full compliance expected by late 2026.
Impact on Vehicle Manufacturers
Manufacturers will need to adapt their production processes to meet these stricter standards. This includes improving technology to reduce both exhaust and non-exhaust emissions, ensuring vehicles are cleaner and more efficient."

TX.
This was covered in one of the Sundays yesterday. The summation was that it was bullst peddled by those with an agenda, ironically.

The Brake/Tyre pollution are notable lower in EVs than other cars, and the battery regs are to be able to provide 80% charge/performance after 5years; they highlighted that not only is current tech is massively better than that already, but they could find no mainstream EVs at any age with lower than a 80% performance, including 10yr old 250,000 mile Tesla Ss

Alpenus

216 posts

52 months

Yesterday (13:51)
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Let’s all pop our Alfa tinted glasses on…

SDK

2,718 posts

275 months

Yesterday (13:53)
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Sounds awesome - who is actually buying a new one of these cars?
Or, is it the typical forum thumbs up, we love it, thank, thank you... but they sell just 5?

It's the Lotus thing all over again, social media/online forums are full of people wanting one...but globally they sold in tiny numbers.

robsprocket

125 posts

200 months

Yesterday (13:58)
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thelostboy said:
Love the QF but the M3 is already feels lightyears ahead in some aspects. To think there are spy shots of the NEXT M3 and they are still selling the same Alfa from 2017.

They need to be discounted massively.
Not only would I take the aging Alfa over any current BMW but I would also take a 2017 M3 over the later models.

el romeral

1,908 posts

159 months

Yesterday (14:04)
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Good shout from Alfa.

Wardy78

2,464 posts

80 months

Yesterday (14:07)
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Alpenus said:
Let s all pop our Alfa tinted glasses on
What didn't you like about it each of the times you drove one/owned one?

Jurdy

302 posts

306 months

Yesterday (14:08)
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I've got the itch for one of these but £90k.....

It was this or an MC 12c... I bought the McLaren but.... Will definitely add a QV over the next year or so! Epic looking!

OoopsVoss

764 posts

32 months

Yesterday (14:16)
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Dated.

Johnny G Pipe

275 posts

250 months

Yesterday (14:22)
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Oh good, old cars appear to be the new new cars..

Wardy78 said:
This was covered in one of the Sundays yesterday. The summation was that it was bullst peddled by those with an agenda, ironically.

The Brake/Tyre pollution are notable lower in EVs than other cars, and the battery regs are to be able to provide 80% charge/performance after 5years; they highlighted that not only is current tech is massively better than that already, but they could find no mainstream EVs at any age with lower than a 80% performance, including 10yr old 250,000 mile Tesla Ss
- Wandering O/T but surely the bigger/heavier the car, the greater the tyre microplastics pollution, regardless of propulsion means?
Not forgetting EVs can cause more tyre wear, too, cos of the torque characteristics and that. And so, Euro 7 intends punishing big heavy EV SUVs? Oh heck, what a shame.