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Am I missing something? I am about to change my car for the 1st time in over 20 years The info screen is nearly as big as my TV but the biggest worry is keyless entry. All the faff to put the fob in a faraday pouch when you leave the car especially at petrol stations and walking to the ticket machine in a carpark and then taking it out again to lock the car all to stop you having to put your hand in your pocket to find the key or put the shopping down whilst you unlock the car .
This must be the most pointless 'improvement' since Volkswagen put a coffee making machine in the dash to make coffee on the move.
Just a moan from someone who keeps his cars too long.
Am I missing something? I am about to change my car for the 1st time in over 20 years The info screen is nearly as big as my TV but the biggest worry is keyless entry. All the faff to put the fob in a faraday pouch when you leave the car especially at petrol stations and walking to the ticket machine in a carpark and then taking it out again to lock the car all to stop you having to put your hand in your pocket to find the key or put the shopping down whilst you unlock the car .
This must be the most pointless 'improvement' since Volkswagen put a coffee making machine in the dash to make coffee on the move.
Just a moan from someone who keeps his cars too long.
Or stop over thinking things, and keyless is great.
Im on my 5th keyless car in 8 years, never used a faraday pouch and none have been stolen.
In fact i don't personally know a single person who has had their car stolen via keyless entry.
Unless you have something very desirable, its very unlikely to be stolen at home, and certainly not while you pay at a petrol station!
Im on my 5th keyless car in 8 years, never used a faraday pouch and none have been stolen.
In fact i don't personally know a single person who has had their car stolen via keyless entry.
Unless you have something very desirable, its very unlikely to be stolen at home, and certainly not while you pay at a petrol station!
On some cars you can disable the whole keyless system.
I use a faraday box at home for those cars that have keyless ( even if disabled ) but just treat the key normally when out or filling up etc.
Certain cars attracted a lot of negative attention ( JLR ) a few years ago but that seems to have simmered down.
I use a faraday box at home for those cars that have keyless ( even if disabled ) but just treat the key normally when out or filling up etc.
Certain cars attracted a lot of negative attention ( JLR ) a few years ago but that seems to have simmered down.
Valid moan.
There's lots of things i don't want or need, keyless entry, stop/start, electric park brake, so called safety aids which are often anything but, auto headlights/wipers, the list is endless.
Sadly the only newer vehicles of any interest to me are Toyota (plusToyota built Suzuki) hybrids, so i'm hoping to hear from anyone that has Techstream to see if they've managed to program the faff out, my own Techstream version probably need replacing now unlikely to cover the latest vehicles.
Prado is now 21 years old so none of that garbage, can probably keep it going for another 10/15 years (more than likely see me out) but the loons in govt might put paid to such vehicles at any time.
There's lots of things i don't want or need, keyless entry, stop/start, electric park brake, so called safety aids which are often anything but, auto headlights/wipers, the list is endless.
Sadly the only newer vehicles of any interest to me are Toyota (plusToyota built Suzuki) hybrids, so i'm hoping to hear from anyone that has Techstream to see if they've managed to program the faff out, my own Techstream version probably need replacing now unlikely to cover the latest vehicles.
Prado is now 21 years old so none of that garbage, can probably keep it going for another 10/15 years (more than likely see me out) but the loons in govt might put paid to such vehicles at any time.
forester65 said:
All the faff to put the fob in a faraday pouch when you leave the car especially at petrol stations and walking to the ticket machine in a carpark ...
You don't need to do that.And most keys have movement detectors so you don't need to do it at home.
Having said that, I miss having the ignition lock as a handy place to store keys while in the car.
Sheepshanks said:
You don't need to do that.
And most keys have movement detectors so you don't need to do it at home.
Having said that, I miss having the ignition lock as a handy place to store keys while in the car.
I'm still using a key like a neaderthal, I too find the ignition a handy place to dangle the keys.And most keys have movement detectors so you don't need to do it at home.
Having said that, I miss having the ignition lock as a handy place to store keys while in the car.
I should have said my 1st modern car for 20 years. Couple of years ago I bought a Cobra and was filling up when a car pulls up on the other side of the pump I am used to people looking and talking to me about it and as he didn't put any fuel in that is what I expecting him to do , when I went to pay he followed me and stood outside the kiosk not 6 feet away I am looking at him through the window turns away and walks off. I thought at the time he was trying to scan my card. On reflection I think I was lucky the Cobra is not keyless.
Robertb said:
However those semi keyless cars (looking at you BMW and Mini) where you need the key to unlock but not start the car are a bit silly.
Daughter's Skoda Kamiq is like that - need to press the fob to unlock (and lock) the car, but it's got push button start. At least it makes a bit more difficult to lock the fob in the boot, as our other daughter did twice in her fully keyless SEAT.
Sheepshanks said:
Daughter's Skoda Kamiq is like that - need to press the fob to unlock (and lock) the car, but it's got push button start.
At least it makes a bit more difficult to lock the fob in the boot, as our other daughter did twice in her fully keyless SEAT.
that’s interesting as with our keyless 2019 Golf you can’t lock it with the key still inside th car.At least it makes a bit more difficult to lock the fob in the boot, as our other daughter did twice in her fully keyless SEAT.
Robertb said:
However those semi keyless cars (looking at you BMW and Mini) where you need the key to unlock but not start the car are a bit silly.
Why are they silly, I find them fine.I need my house key on the key ring to lock the house. So.
Lock the house.
Approach car pressing unlock on car remote and pocketing key.
Step in
Press start button.
End of journey, put parking brake on. Open door (car goes into park)
Walk away, and lock car with remote in pocket. Easy.
Robertb said:
My Merc has keyless and you can just turn the key off by clicking the lock button twice.
The convenience of it far outweighs any downside.
However those semi keyless cars (looking at you BMW and Mini) where you need the key to unlock but not start the car are a bit silly.
Agree with the MIni. We’ve a few cars and the Mini is the odd one out where I find myself remembering I need to use the fob once I’ve tried the door handle a few times. The convenience of it far outweighs any downside.
However those semi keyless cars (looking at you BMW and Mini) where you need the key to unlock but not start the car are a bit silly.
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