RE: Jaguar XF 2.7 | Shed of the Week
RE: Jaguar XF 2.7 | Shed of the Week
Friday 3rd April

Jaguar XF 2.7 | Shed of the Week

Diesel has skyrocketed in price - thank goodness the saloon it goes into won't have cost you much...


There was supposed to be a £1,750 FN2 Civic Type R on here today but some complete bounder spoiled that plan by buying it. Shed had a good think about something that might come as close as possible to the raw edginess of the Honda, and this is what he came up with: a diesel Jaguar. For an old geezer like him though, an XF is a sporty motor. The paint is British Racing Green and in somewhat better shape than the delacquered Milano red of that Honda. The wheels are unfeasibly large and the leather could do with a clean but with only 113,000 miles on the clock, a £1,599 price tag and a clean (albeit short) MOT, Shed has been experiencing a rare twitching in his trousers. 

We have had a couple of XFs on here before, but they were both 3.0 V6 petrols. This one has the 2.7 twin-turbo V6 diesel which, for a certain type of owner, would be the preferred choice even with diesel prices now cresting the £2 a litre mark. If Shed could be bothered to work it out he would attempt to prove to you why, even with diesel costing 30p more a litre than petrol, it’s still his favoured option. Admittedly his diesel driving style is a bit unusual. It consists of chugging around in as high a gear as possible for 99 per cent of the time and spending the other 1 per cent mercilessly thramping up and down the dual carriageway next to the old folks’ home to clear it out. 

In terms of real-world progress, there wouldn’t be much between the 205hp/321lb ft 2.7 diesel and the 235hp/216lb ft 3.0 petrol. The torque difference meant the diesel was actually quicker, with a 0-60mph time of 7.7 seconds against the petrol’s 7.9. Fuel consumption of 37mpg versus 26mpg meant you could go an extra 150 miles on a tankful of the black stuff. Jaguar put a lot of effort into quietening the diesel too, and its VED tax should be a relatively affordable £395 a year. Well, in Shed’s mind it should be £35 a year, but his mind isn’t all that closely connected with reality. 

Being a pre-2015 example, our shed will be an X250 made of Ford steel rather than the aluminium they used for the X260. Being a pre-2011 example, it will be a non-facelift car. Being a 2008 example, it’s fair to call it an early XF, production not having started until the very end of 2007. Luxury was the lowest spec, although you couldn’t tell that from the outside because, barring wheel differences and a badge on the SV8, all XFs were deliberately designed to look the same. Great if you were buying a base model, not so much if you’d splashed out on an SV8. ’A customer is buying an XF rather than an XF in a particular trim level,’ sniffed Jaguar’s PR machine at the time. 

A similar ethos applied to the cabin, where many features were designed to be ‘invisible until needed’. More visibly, the XF boot was class-leadingly large at up to 540 litres. The basic 8-speaker audio setup (as here) sounded decent enough with a high-mounted woofer and a tweeter in each door and DAB as standard. JaguarSense Proximity controls meant you didn’t have to touch the glovebox lid or overhead console lights to operate them, a nice biological bonus for a ten-owner car like this, assuming it’s all still working of course. There was also a Pedestrian Contact Sensing System. Shed is currently scouring the XF online manual to see if this system can somehow be modified to refuse entry to certain people whom he would prefer to categorise as permanent pedestrians rather than passengers. Somebody should tell him what PCSS actually means. 

The MOT does only have three weeks left to run, but when the XF was tested last April they couldn’t find anything wrong with it. Consumables apart, the worst thing to befall it so far has been a small diff leak noticed in 2024 and apparently put right at the time, or some time near it at any rate as it didn’t reappear in the next test. Diffs on pre-’09 XFs did suffer from contamination of the ‘lifetime’ fluid, causing wobbly pinion gears and halfshafts and damaged seals. It’s very much worth checking that the rectification work for this has been carried out at some point or you might be in for a whole new unit as they’ve changed the design since. 

The Ford/PSA 2.7 ‘Lion’ unit does come with issues, like um crank failure. If it’s any consolation, the 3.0 and 2.2 diesels also had potentially catastrophic faults, which was something nice to think about while you were waiting by the side of the road for the recovery truck.

XF reversing cameras failed. They weren’t standard and there’s no mention of it on the ad so you might be lucky in not having it. Rising gear selectors didn’t always rise, leaving the car stuck in Park. That could be something as simple as a weedy battery, but if it isn’t you’ll need a new selector and as you might guess that won’t be cheap. Clutches for the stepper motors driving the rotating air vents in the dash wear out. That used to be an expensive repair too, requiring completely new vent/motor assemblies. Nowadays clutches are available separately, reducing your initial outlay, but partial dash dismantlery will still be needed. Tyre pressure monitoring sensors were, and probably still are, notoriously fragile. 

Shed’s diligent research suggests that those 20-inch wheels are off the SV8. In this application and scabby condition they look more like the wheels off Charlie’s chuck wagon out of Wagon Train after a particularly tough hike through Arizona. On the plus side, SV8 wheels do go for big money in some markets, like the US. They’re not easy to come by in the UK either. Shed could only find a single refurbed one, priced at £229. In the worst-case scenario, you could buy the Jag for £1,599 and flog the wheels. Grab a dozen bricks from the recycling centre and you can be enjoying a good chunk of the Jaguar experience with zero running costs.


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TonyMac

Original Poster:

59 posts

71 months

Friday 3rd April
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If my 600 quid S Type with the same engine is anything to go by, this will be a nice shed for someone. Though a 3 week ticket for the money is a bit tight.

Don Roque

18,237 posts

184 months

Friday 3rd April
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Loved this engine in the S-Type. Pre-DPF models could shoot amusing smoke clouds under acceleration: hehe: otherwise it was very pleasant to use but pretty thirsty for the power/displacement. Lovely and refined for a diesel though. Reliable too, which was nice as the packaging was very tight.

Faust66

2,381 posts

190 months

Friday 3rd April
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3 weeks MOT?

The fact that the seller does not stick 12 months ticket on it is a bit eyebrow raising.

Still, for the money you can't go that far wrong if you're willing to play MOT shed roulette... potentially an epic shed, potentially a waste of £1600.

[Dirty Harry]Do I feel lucky? Well, do ya, punk?[/Dirty Harry]

sinisterpenguin

57 posts

44 months

Friday 3rd April
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Bae spec without heated seats is a No for me.

Sir does not buy a Jag to have cold buttocks in the winter.

Lefty

20,133 posts

227 months

Friday 3rd April
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Wouldn’t risk that engine but if it was the v8 petrol xf, yes please

yme402

617 posts

127 months

Friday 3rd April
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Those wheels don’t do it any favours. The BRG is a delightful colour so like Shed says, flog the wheels, buy some standard sized ones to make it look more upmarket and then use the profit to get 12 months ticket on it.

MrMoonyMan

2,649 posts

236 months

Friday 3rd April
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What a fantastic car for Jaguar these were when launched. A real step ahead and with so many wonderful design features.

I was working for Jaguar when these were released and remember driving a brand new one, still with bits of new car plastic attached, through Birmingham on trade plates. It caused a huge stir with traffic stopping to get a look at it.

At the factory Ian Callum showed us round one that was for display purposes as it was effectively cut in half to show the insides. He proudly described how they d tested that rising gear control by dropping a 2 litre bottle of coke down it to see if it would still work.

We had one guy come into the showroom when all the cars were still on order only and insist on buying the one in the showroom there and then with an enormous amount of cash he had. The company accountants were not too excited about that but the dealer principle did not pass up the opportunity for a sale!

JRaj

125 posts

98 months

Friday 3rd April
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For the some reason, that looks cartoonish to me. It should be a good spec on paper but looks like it belongs in a caravan park.....

hungry_hog

2,817 posts

213 months

Friday 3rd April
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Surroundings don't do it any favours.

Parked up against a country estate it would look like it has been bought new and lived there 20 years

In that used car lot it looks like something out of Minder.

GianiCakes

631 posts

98 months

Friday 3rd April
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That XFR spotted a few days ago seemed to have terminal chassis rot. Presumably this could have the same problem and be the reason for the lack of a new MOT. Sounds like that’s the first thing that should be looked at on these.
And those wheels do looks comically large to the point where they’d affect the gearing.

cerb4.5lee

42,300 posts

205 months

Friday 3rd April
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I'm struggling a bit with this to be honest, because I don't like green cars, and I don't like wood interior trim either. I do always remember the gear selector being quite fancy in these at the time though. cool

I usually like big wheels as well, but they don't seem to suit this though as mentioned for me.

Rob 131 Sport

4,507 posts

77 months

Friday 3rd April
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yme402 said:
Those wheels don t do it any favours. The BRG is a delightful colour so like Shed says, flog the wheels, buy some standard sized ones to make it look more upmarket and then use the profit to get 12 months ticket on it.
I do like the BRG and also much prefer the facelift version. One of my weekend jobs is to polish and wax the Jaguar.


Kawasaki2000

182 posts

16 months

Friday 3rd April
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'Good morning, I'm looking for car that will make me look old AND boring'

'well sir there is no better way to do it than a Jaguar and the XF is the perfect way to do it. A cream interior just finishes it beautifully. There's the added advantage of the complete unreliablity too.'


Vsix and Vtec

1,349 posts

43 months

Friday 3rd April
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I really wish people would stop propagating the crankshaft snapping myth.

These cars never had a single case in the years I worked at Jaguar. Nor did the S Type 2.7 which preceeded it. The car which DID was the Land Rover Discovery. The use case of a stay-at-home Chelsea mum who drives a mile from home to school to Starbucks and back home again didn't allow the DPF regen to complete, and led to oil dilution. It was THIS that led to crank wear and because this patern went on uninterrupted for a few years eventually snapped.

The way it gets talked about, you'd think it was a fatal design flaw which threatens all of the Lion V6 engines. It doesn't. Its just people who should have bought petrol not knowing how to keep a diesel working well. Same goes for the 2.2, Ford built hundreds of thousands of them and fitted them in everything from the Mondeo to the Freelander 2, with the XF and Ranger in there too. Use it as a diesel and the crankshaft is fit for 300k miles.

Rant over. Buy an XF, they're flipping brilliant, my partner had one for a few years and adored it.

cerb4.5lee

42,300 posts

205 months

Friday 3rd April
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Rob 131 Sport said:
yme402 said:
Those wheels don t do it any favours. The BRG is a delightful colour so like Shed says, flog the wheels, buy some standard sized ones to make it look more upmarket and then use the profit to get 12 months ticket on it.
I do like the BRG and also much prefer the facelift version. One of my weekend jobs is to polish and wax the Jaguar.

The facelift lights look so much better to me, plus I much prefer your darker green as well. thumbup

Andy86GT

924 posts

90 months

Friday 3rd April
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Lefty said:
Wouldn t risk that engine but if it was the v8 petrol xf, yes please
My sister's 21 year old Disco is on 155k and its only used for towing a heavy horse box. Crank is still a single piece. Rest of the vehicle, erm slowly falling to pieces...

cerb4.5lee

42,300 posts

205 months

Friday 3rd April
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Vsix and Vtec said:
I really wish people would stop propagating the crankshaft snapping myth.

These cars never had a single case in the years I worked at Jaguar. Nor did the S Type 2.7 which preceeded it. The car which DID was the Land Rover Discovery. The use case of a stay-at-home Chelsea mum who drives a mile from home to school to Starbucks and back home again didn't allow the DPF regen to complete, and led to oil dilution. It was THIS that led to crank wear and because this patern went on uninterrupted for a few years eventually snapped.

The way it gets talked about, you'd think it was a fatal design flaw which threatens all of the Lion V6 engines. It doesn't. Its just people who should have bought petrol not knowing how to keep a diesel working well. Same goes for the 2.2, Ford built hundreds of thousands of them and fitted them in everything from the Mondeo to the Freelander 2, with the XF and Ranger in there too. Use it as a diesel and the crankshaft is fit for 300k miles.

Rant over. Buy an XF, they're flipping brilliant, my partner had one for a few years and adored it.
I get frustrated about diesel getting a bad name regarding that as well. We've only ever bought diesel to cover big miles in, and they've all been golden, and I don't know why you'd consider a diesel as a local runabout to be honest. In the same way, I wouldn't consider using electric to cover long distances either for example, surely it's all just common sense really?

Electric for the runabout(or petrol if you prefer like I do), diesel for the distance car, and petrol for fun is arguably the ideal in my eyes for example.

Andy86GT

924 posts

90 months

Friday 3rd April
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cerb4.5lee said:
Rob 131 Sport said:
yme402 said:
Those wheels don t do it any favours. The BRG is a delightful colour so like Shed says, flog the wheels, buy some standard sized ones to make it look more upmarket and then use the profit to get 12 months ticket on it.
I do like the BRG and also much prefer the facelift version. One of my weekend jobs is to polish and wax the Jaguar.

The facelift lights look so much better to me, plus I much prefer your darker green as well. thumbup
Agreed, I can see what they were trying to do, echoing the XJ, however it just makes them look surprised

Lefty

20,133 posts

227 months

Friday 3rd April
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Andy86GT said:
Lefty said:
Wouldn t risk that engine but if it was the v8 petrol xf, yes please
My sister's 21 year old Disco is on 155k and its only used for towing a heavy horse box. Crank is still a single piece. Rest of the vehicle, erm slowly falling to pieces...
hehe

I had a D3 with this engine and it was fine too. In fact, the only thing that went wrong in 5 years and 100k miles was an alternator. Awesome car, I loved it.


Andy86GT

924 posts

90 months

Friday 3rd April
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Lefty said:
Andy86GT said:
Lefty said:
Wouldn t risk that engine but if it was the v8 petrol xf, yes please
My sister's 21 year old Disco is on 155k and its only used for towing a heavy horse box. Crank is still a single piece. Rest of the vehicle, erm slowly falling to pieces...
hehe

I had a D3 with this engine and it was fine too. In fact, the only thing that went wrong in 5 years and 100k miles was an alternator. Awesome car, I loved it.
thumbup

Her's doesn't lock any more (she doesn't care, it's full of straw inside), the side steps have both fallen of, it does a strange 'shimmy' through the whole vehicle after each gear change, A/C obviously doesn't work but somehow it passes it MOT and keeps going. She loves it too.