RE: New electric cars more popular than ever...
RE: New electric cars more popular than ever...
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New electric cars more popular than ever...

... but not nearly as popular as the ZEV mandate insists they should be, or the headlines would have you believe


Electric cars. They are everywhere. Not least in everyone’s imagination, fuelled by headlines reporting an uptick in interest roughly analogous to concerns about (very real) price increases at the pump. Given the prospect of long-term volatility in the cost of oil, this seems credible enough, especially in the secondhand market, where previously the level of interest among private buyers could be politely described as ‘zilch’ - or somewhere thereabouts. This accounted for the crazy-looking deals for anything nearly new; deals that justly become more interesting if you’re being asked to pay £2 per litre for diesel. 

For those carmakers deeply invested in building electric cars (i.e. all of them, to one degree or another) this is, generally speaking - and if we ignore the myriad ways in which conflict adjacent to the Strait of Hormuz affects them - good news. Ditto the record peak achieved by BEV sales volumes last month: 86,120 registrations were recorded in March, up 24.2 per cent. This contributed to a 6.6 per cent rise overall in the crucial plate change period, making for the best month overall since 2019. Huzzah! 

Or, more pessimistically, huzzoo. For one thing, while some European and Korean brands have prospered, it is the disruptive Chinese brands that have been high-fiving each other this morning. BYD has never sold more cars in the UK than it did in Q1, and nor has Omoda&Jaecoo - the latter, in the form of the Jaecoo 7, becoming the nation’s best-selling car in March. Given the timescale, this has less to do with the situation in Iran, and more to do with the fact that you can buy the imposing electric (or hybrid) SUV from £29k. 

For another thing, even with the influx of carmakers you hadn’t heard of a year ago, the industry as a whole is still lagging miles behind the target laid out for it by the UK government’s ZEV mandate, which insists the electric cars should account for 33 per cent of the total volume in 2026. Even with a record month, it currently languishes at 22.4 per cent for the year to date. Little wonder that the SMMT - the body which reflects the concerns of the manufacturers and traders - has repeated the view that the speed of the transition to battery-powered cars must be reviewed. 

It persuasively argues that the conditions facing the industry are wildly different to those assumed when the mandate was established. ‘At the start of 2026, battery costs were more than 30 per cent higher than expected and industrial energy prices around 80 per cent above 2021 levels, while public charging can cost over 140 per cent more than five years ago.’ Are any of these factors likely to be aided by an escalating war in the Middle East? No, of course not. 

“The strongest new car market since 2019, with the highest ever volume of EV registrations, is a boost to the industry and the economy,” noted SMMT’s boss, Mike Hawes. “However, the headlines belie the costs incurred and the challenges involved. Much of March’s performance will be from orders placed before the start of the Iran conflict, which threatens to raise the cost of living, undermining consumer confidence.” In the short term, this might not make the prospect of a £30k Porsche Taycan seem less attractive - yet the immediate advantages, and the headlines surrounding them, bring us no closer to a sustainable or prudently governed marketplace.


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Master Bean

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4,961 posts

144 months

Yesterday (14:39)
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I have nothing to add.

andrewpandrew

2,591 posts

13 months

Yesterday (14:46)
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Throttlebody has got a job on PH...

untakenname

5,273 posts

216 months

Yesterday (15:05)
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Have seem a few Jaecoo's around recently, mainly driven by retiree's.

Would like to see how the reliability of the Jaecoo brand holds up and also what the supply chain is like for parts, apparently the insurance is sky high due to this being an unknown factor.

Looks like there's still quite a hefty markup here compared with in China, not sure how western brands are meant to compete.


pb8g09

3,035 posts

93 months

Yesterday (15:06)
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I'd happily have an EV daily and a manual, retro petrol for the weekends. The trouble will be that the weekend car will probably be mandated from entering any towns and cities my wife would want to go to on the weekends...

sledge68

861 posts

221 months

Yesterday (15:22)
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The predicted comments on here about Chinese cars, are the same comments made about Japanese cars many decades ago.

_Rodders_

1,394 posts

43 months

Yesterday (15:26)
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untakenname said:
Have seem a few Jaecoo's around recently, mainly driven by retiree's.

Would like to see how the reliability of the Jaecoo brand holds up and also what the supply chain is like for parts, apparently the insurance is sky high due to this being an unknown factor.

Looks like there's still quite a hefty markup here compared with in China, not sure how western brands are meant to compete.

It's surprising to me that China has largely imported their cheap cars and left the more premium stuff at home.

Maybe they come later but you'd have thought that something that beats a Taycan on paper and costs 40% as much would do quite well.

_Rodders_

1,394 posts

43 months

Yesterday (15:27)
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pb8g09 said:
I'd happily have an EV daily and a manual, retro petrol for the weekends. The trouble will be that the weekend car will probably be mandated from entering any towns and cities my wife would want to go to on the weekends...
Odd mentality. What if that never happens?

Dave Hedgehog

15,820 posts

228 months

Yesterday (15:29)
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sledge68 said:
The predicted comments on here about Chinese cars, are the same comments made about Japanese cars many decades ago.
and then korean cars

SDK

2,980 posts

277 months

Yesterday (15:29)
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_Rodders_ said:
It's surprising to me that China has largely imported their cheap cars and left the more premium stuff at home.

Maybe they come later but you'd have thought that something that beats a Taycan on paper and costs 40% as much would do quite well.
That is coming

The Denza brand (premium BYD) has Porsche in it s sights - Z9GT from summer this year : https://www.denza.com/uk

_Rodders_

1,394 posts

43 months

Yesterday (15:31)
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SDK said:
_Rodders_ said:
It's surprising to me that China has largely imported their cheap cars and left the more premium stuff at home.

Maybe they come later but you'd have thought that something that beats a Taycan on paper and costs 40% as much would do quite well.
That is coming

The Denza brand (premium BYD) has Porsche in it s sights - Z9GT from summer this year
Yangwang and Xiaomi were another two I was thinking of.

Josemartinez

289 posts

14 months

Yesterday (15:37)
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_Rodders_ said:
Odd mentality. What if that never happens?
Then pb8g09 will be going shopping wink

smn159

15,171 posts

241 months

Yesterday (15:41)
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pb8g09 said:
I'd happily have an EV daily and a manual, retro petrol for the weekends. The trouble will be that the weekend car will probably be mandated from entering any towns and cities my wife would want to go to on the weekends...
Mandated?

Are petrol cars banned (assuming that's what you mean) anywhere now?

Sir Keith Stormer

413 posts

9 months

Yesterday (15:42)
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200 more pages from the usual suspects incoming, they must be on the payroll with the sheer volume of posts. hehe

BigChiefmuffinAgain

1,597 posts

122 months

Yesterday (15:43)
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The fact that the Jaecoo 7 was the top selling car in March is beyond belief. They only started selling here 14 months earlier ! If you think it took decades for the Japanese and then the Koreans took to even crack the top 10.... Totally extraordinary. If I was a Stellantis, Renault or VAG executive I would be bricking myself. This is only the start.....

Dave Hedgehog

15,820 posts

228 months

Yesterday (15:48)
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BigChiefmuffinAgain said:
The fact that the Jaecoo 7 was the top selling car in March is beyond belief.
Does not suprise me at all, you simply get more car and more spec for your money.

My neighbours just bought one, they told me to replace their golf with another golf was 10k more than the J7 and had less kit, they are over the moon with it

Augustus Windsock

3,723 posts

179 months

Yesterday (15:49)
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smn159 said:
pb8g09 said:
I'd happily have an EV daily and a manual, retro petrol for the weekends. The trouble will be that the weekend car will probably be mandated from entering any towns and cities my wife would want to go to on the weekends...
Mandated?

Are petrol cars banned (assuming that's what you mean) anywhere now?
What bit of ‘probably’ escaped you?
It was a suggestion, and in all likelihood, a strong probability.
With regards to the comments about Japanese, Korean and Chinese brands, we are seeing a massive incursion into our markets with the intention of obliterating established brands (no, that’s not xenophobic, it’s business practice), and then when they have succeeded, the prices will go up.
Let’s not forget that Rachel from Accounts will have her eye set on the near future, because when she starts to lose duty from fossil fuels powering cars, she, or her successor, will turn their greedy little eyes to our EVs, and work out a way to tax them, most likely by a full roll out of ‘pay per mile’ which covers every single road.


v8notbrave

255 posts

37 months

Yesterday (15:50)
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I know people sniggered at Korean cars 10 years ago now folk have adopted them. I'll watch a Chinese TV, have a Chinese phone, laptop etc. But it's like Jezza's Cool wall for me, I couldn't tell anyone in the pub I drove a Chinese car and hold my head high. Buying Chinese is a pure price play, you don't care about the finer points of quality and refinement or image. Those who buy Chinese probably don't care what clothes they wear as long as they're warm and comfy, imho (also they haven't considered resale values as they're on the never never)

MightyBadger

4,027 posts

74 months

Yesterday (15:51)
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Inb4 'my EV fills it's tank every night whilst I sleep'.

Edited by MightyBadger on Tuesday 7th April 15:54

uktrailmonster

10,532 posts

224 months

Yesterday (15:51)
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So what is this electric Jaecoo 7 the article talks about? There are petrol, PHEV and HEV versions only.

Bernt Tuakrisp

273 posts

224 months

Yesterday (15:57)
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You have to credit dealers and OEMs with the progress they’ve made. They’ve offered huge discounts along with help with tax breaks and grants for customers but no matter how hard they try the gap between what they are achieving and the ZEV mandate requirement is getting further apart. 20.7% against 28% last year, and 22.6% against 33% so far in 2026. It’s 38% in 27 and a whopping 52% in 2028, there’s not a chance they’ll get close.

It’s happening, just not nearly fast enough - the EU recognises this and is helping its industry. Our government has its eyes closed and fingers in its ears like it does on every other problem it faces.