Faraday pouch warning
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Cobnapint

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9,705 posts

176 months

Sunday 19th April
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A thought crossed my mind this afternoon - does my OH's faraday pouch still work...?

It worked back in 2019 when I bought it off Amazon because I remember testing it, but I'd read something recently that the shielding breaks down in them because of the flexing and general wear and tear.

Low and behold - it didn't. I was able to access her car with the key in the pouch and the flap firmly shut.
When it actually lost it's capabilities between 2019 and now I don't know, but just a heads up, test your pouches every so often.

fttm

4,404 posts

160 months

Monday 20th April
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Wouldn't it be simpler to move somewhere with a slightly better standard of living than worry whether your car keys a securely locked away ?

Alickadoo

3,382 posts

48 months

Monday 20th April
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Cobnapint said:
A thought crossed my mind this afternoon - does my OH's faraday pouch still work...?

It worked back in 2019 when I bought it off Amazon because I remember testing it, but I'd read something recently that the shielding breaks down in them because of the flexing and general wear and tear.

Low and behold - it didn't. I was able to access her car with the key in the pouch and the flap firmly shut.
When it actually lost it's capabilities between 2019 and now I don't know, but just a heads up, test your pouches every so often.
Better still.

Either use an old sweet tin, or make your own from kitchen foil.

normalbloke

8,583 posts

244 months

Monday 20th April
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fttm said:
Wouldn't it be simpler to move somewhere with a slightly better standard of living than worry whether your car keys a securely locked away ?
Yes dear…

fttm

4,404 posts

160 months

Monday 20th April
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normalbloke said:
Yes dear
Quite simple really , apathy rules in Britain to the extent where locking your keys in a faraday pouch becomes normal then mild panic sets in when maybe said pouch is failing . Broken society fella , nothing less .

ziggy328

1,346 posts

239 months

Monday 20th April
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or buy a non Emira Lotus, mine still uses an old Ford Transit key thumbup

paddy1970

1,365 posts

134 months

Monday 20th April
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I heard if you wear a tin foil hat, you should be ok...

Puddenchucker

5,512 posts

243 months

Monday 20th April
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paddy1970 said:
I heard if you wear a tin foil hat, you should be ok...
Don't be silly.

It's your car you need to cover in tin foil.

Sheepshanks

39,615 posts

144 months

Monday 20th April
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What car / year is it? Most (all?) fobs are motion sensitive now.

It's well known the pouches have a limited life.

2172cc

1,770 posts

122 months

Monday 20th April
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Yes, I found the same happened to me and now my key still in the pouch lives inside a foil lined tin . That definitely works even when you test it right next to the car, it won't unlock the doors.

Edited to correct auto correct . Now makes sense smile

Edited by 2172cc on Monday 20th April 07:35

BertBert

21,002 posts

236 months

Monday 20th April
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2172cc said:
Yes, I found the same happened to me and now my still key in the pouch lives inside a foil lined tin . That definitely works even when you test it right next to the car, it won't unlock the doors.
Why line a tin with foil?

Cobnapint

Original Poster:

9,705 posts

176 months

Monday 20th April
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said:
Quite agree. I was just highlighting what I'd found, and along comes some numpty suggesting I move house - what, to somewhere like affluent Cheshire, Essex or Hertfordshire - where car theft is through the roof.

To the poster that asked what car it is, yes, it's a Ford and does have motion sensor keys, but when we bought the pouch, the car we had back then - didn't.

Edited by Cobnapint on Monday 20th April 07:37

hidetheelephants

34,463 posts

218 months

Monday 20th April
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Does this mean my grandad's collection of old Golden Virginia tins now has a value? hehe

mobile chicane22

477 posts

213 months

Monday 20th April
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Depending on the make and model of the car the keyless can be disabled, I did it in a 2021 cupra I had

2172cc

1,770 posts

122 months

Monday 20th April
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BertBert said:
2172cc said:
Yes, I found the same happened to me and now my still key in the pouch lives inside a foil lined tin . That definitely works even when you test it right next to the car, it won't unlock the doors.
Why line a tin with foil?
I tried a tin without the foil and it still sensed the key moving the door mirrors out to the unlocked position. Lining the tin with foil and then positioning it right up against the car worked and didn't unlock it.

hidetheelephants

34,463 posts

218 months

Monday 20th April
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If only there were a thing called an on/off button, then car makers could fit one to keys and this farrago wouldn't be necessary.

Wills2

28,432 posts

200 months

Monday 20th April
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fttm said:
Wouldn't it be simpler to move somewhere with a slightly better standard of living than worry whether your car keys a securely locked away ?
I'd steer clear of the car crime capital of the world that is Canada though.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy79dq2n093o



BlackTails

2,971 posts

80 months

Monday 20th April
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fttm said:
Wouldn't it be simpler to move somewhere with a slightly better standard of living than worry whether your car keys a securely locked away ?
Sledgehammer, meet nut.

ajm_ph

1,346 posts

100 months

Monday 20th April
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fttm said:
normalbloke said:
Yes dear
Quite simple really , apathy rules in Britain to the extent where locking your keys in a faraday pouch becomes normal then mild panic sets in when maybe said pouch is failing . Broken society fella , nothing less .
FWIW, while car crime is marginally up on the historic lows set a few years back the are still massively down on where they used to be.
But sure "broken society".

The real problem here is car manufacturers persisting in keyless entry and start, which is a minor extra convenience for owners while being a massive gift to car thieves. I don't know about anyone else, but I find that reaching into my pocket and pressing a button has never been a great hardship.

(source carcrime.uk)


Blib

47,356 posts

222 months

Monday 20th April
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2001 was a banner year.