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Despite the EX90's introduction, the XC90 soldiers on - it's easy to see why in T8 Ultra format


Staying power isn’t really a virtue these days, or so it seems. Everything must be the latest, newest and shiniest, regardless of whether it’s actually any better compared to what came before. Progress for new cars right now feels like revising, refreshing and replacing for the sake of it, rather than for any tangible benefit - other than customer awareness in the face of a competitor list that grows by the day. Doesn’t matter if the car has become any nicer to use or any more capable, because look, it’s NEW!

Then there’s the Volvo XC90. This is just the second generation of XC90, a car that next year (if it makes it that far) will arrive at its 25th anniversary - incredible. This version, fundamentally speaking, has been in production since 2015; kept up to date along the way, of course, but the Volvo approach to its flagship SUV has very much been about evolution rather than revolution. Right now, with the car world in such a muddle, familiarity sounds more welcome than ever. 

As it seems to its customers as well. While the XC90 range is now down to one powertrain option on the configurator and there’s no news of another, there definitely seems to be more new examples on the road than the all-electric EX90. A bit like the Discovery we also tried recently, there’s a sense that maybe the XC90 is still getting the job done well enough (and selling in sufficient numbers) with combustion power and recognisable design to keep making them. So how good, really, is a brand-new (but also ten-year-old) XC90? 

That’s a little disingenuous, in Volvo’s defence. The most recent XC90 facelift brought the (still very handsome) design more in line with its electric equivalent, and increased the screen real estate inside to 11.2-inches. (Positively titchy by most standards in 2026.) Disappointingly, that means it no longer sits snugly in the dash - a dead giveaway that the underlying architecture is from a previous era - but with Google built in, it has a level of functionality and user friendliness that early cars could only dream of. 

Furthermore, where not so long ago it might have seemed like plug-in hybrids would make way for full battery power, that’s no longer the case. This week, at least. So the T8 PHEV - a powertrain also seen in the V90 - has continued to enjoy modest development. It means both 455hp and 44 miles of WLTP EV range, both of which seem ample for a big family bus. An old dog with some almost-new tricks, even if rivals can offer more combustion power and electric miles. 

None remain quite so likeable, though, however vague a description that sounds. ‘Unannoying’ might be better. Hailing from a different era means the XC90 has proper handles and levers, plus a smattering of buttons (though more might still be handy). Being a modern luxury Volvo, too, the materials are lovely, the sense of calm tangible, the seats brilliant. It isn’t trying to redefine a contemporary understanding of wellbeing or be the sportiest SUV around - it’s just being a brilliant big Volvo. The XC90’s interior, no matter how many people or things you stuff it with, remains distinctly unstressy, and that’s very welcome. 

It’s a feeling that characterises the driving experience, too, with a couple of caveats. It’s all just very easygoing and soothing, without using comfort to mask any failings. Having an engine boosted by a supercharger, turbocharger and electric means response at any revs, and even with the steering in its ‘Firm’ setting there’s very little effort required. But because nothing really does, the XC90 feels all in sync, and you adjust accordingly: take a light touch on light controls, to make progress as serene as possible. It’ll help nudge towards 40mpg on a motorway run, too.

To a large extent, it works, though a couple of things can disrupt the calm. You can probably guess them. Work the 2.0-litre petrol engine too hard (or rouse it in the sportier drive modes) and it’s not a nice thing to listen to, especially when rivals can offer six silky cylinders. Occasionally there’s a powertrain stutter as well, a moment of confusion about whether electric or petrol is best. All the more reason to keep progress brisk rather than banzai. The other slight distraction is the ride; the 21-inch wheels of Ultra spec throw up more pitter patter at all speeds than is really desirable. It’s the only real giveaway that the Volvo’s underpinnings aren’t quite as slick and modern as its design suggests. The 20s are surely going to provide a better ride/handling compromise. 

Crucially, though, you’re never driving an XC90 yearning to be in anything else. An EX90 would be even smoother again, but on a big family holiday trip would place you at the mercy of public charging. A Range Rover Sport would go a bit further on electric (and charge faster); an X5 would make roundabouts a little more interesting for the driver. But the Volvo’s array of talents - and impressively low list of annoyances - keeps it eminently recommendable. Little wonder they remain everywhere, with 100,000 sold globally in 2024. It’s like a seven-seat Aga; it’s never going to be exciting, but it’s probably going to be a lovely thing to depend on. 

For a price, of course. Our press demo, a fully loaded T8 Ultra, was £90k; again, like the Discovery, it would be hard to suggest spending that much on an XC90 that does clearly show its age in some areas. But brand new with £20k off that (before any further negotiation) feels rather more palatable. What comes next for the XC90 isn’t exactly clear; given how extensively EVs are being rolled out across the Volvo range, the EX will surely be the three-row SUV to take its place. Maybe there’ll be another PHEV, maybe there won’t; if there isn’t, an XC90 like this one absolutely remains fine family transport. Just as it was 10 years ago, in fact. Sometimes the old ways don’t need very much changing at all.  


SPECIFICATION | VOLVO XC90 T8 PHEV ULTRA

Engine: 1,969cc, four-cyl turbo + supercharger, plus 18.8kWh (14.7kWh usable) battery
Transmission: 8-speed automatic, all-wheel drive
Power (hp): 455
Torque (lb ft): 523
0-62mph: 5.4secs
Top speed: 112mph
Weight: 2,297kg
MPG: 176.3-217mpg (up to 3.2mi/kWh, up to 43 miles electric range)
CO2: 30-36g/km
Price: £86,560 (price as standard; price as tested £89,055, comprising Metallic paint for £895 and Foldable towbar for £1,600)

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cerb4.5lee

Original Poster:

42,682 posts

206 months

Yesterday (01:51)
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I'd personally prefer more than a 4 cylinder in these, but I do like a lot about them though.

Harry_523

516 posts

125 months

Yesterday (06:55)
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I've got one of these with the B5 (pure petrol) motor, and there's a lot wrong with it honestly. The gearbox is rubbish, engine is harsh and gutless, and there's tons of shudder through the seats and wheel over bumps and potholes. Those 3 together make it feel so much less refined than it should.

Then there's the fact that whilst the boot is enormous, the second row is so tight that even at 5ft10 I can't sit how I want with a car seat behind me.

I really don't see what journo's like about these, just save up for an x7 or disco 5

Edited by Harry_523 on Sunday 7th June 07:06


Edited by Harry_523 on Sunday 7th June 07:16

georgeyboy12345

4,461 posts

61 months

Yesterday (07:34)
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Info in the article is incorrect - Volvo did away with the supercharger in these around 2023 once they upgraded the battery and electric motor in the hybrid system, making them slightly less complicated.

I’d sooner have this drivetrain in something smaller and ~300 kg lighter like the S60, though that’s too heavy as well.

Its Just Adz

18,278 posts

235 months

Yesterday (08:31)
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I think these look great. No doubt drive great too.
But I can't help think, if I was in the market for a £90k luxury SUV, I'd be across the road at Land Rover.

NGK210

4,746 posts

171 months

Yesterday (08:57)
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Good to see Volvo sticking to its traditional safety-first principles in defiance of imbecilic customer demand.
Oh no, wait, the third row of seats is actually in the rear crumple zone.

Dohnut

676 posts

72 months

Yesterday (09:22)
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Harry_523 said:
I've got one of these with the B5 (pure petrol) motor, and there's a lot wrong with it honestly. The gearbox is rubbish, engine is harsh and gutless, and there's tons of shudder through the seats and wheel over bumps and potholes. Those 3 together make it feel so much less refined than it should.

Then there's the fact that whilst the boot is enormous, the second row is so tight that even at 5ft10 I can't sit how I want with a car seat behind me.

I really don't see what journo's like about these, just save up for an x7 or disco 5

Edited by Harry_523 on Sunday 7th June 07:06


Edited by Harry_523 on Sunday 7th June 07:16
In contrast I had a 2022 B5 diesel design-pro, so air suspension, and apart from sounding a bit agricultural in 1st, was the best family car we ve owned. Did multiple trips to the south of France 5-up (eldest in 3rd row) effortlessly and wafted us along in serene comfort.

Reliable too with only an ad-blue sensor error in 4 years of ownership, replaced under warranty.

Sad to see it go.

richinlondon

858 posts

148 months

Yesterday (09:43)
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Its Just Adz said:
I think these look great. No doubt drive great too.
But I can't help think, if I was in the market for a £90k luxury SUV, I'd be across the road at Land Rover.
I’m going tomorrow to talk to dealer about one ! Having had Volvos and them being utterly faultless for years and having driven one of these I’d rate above land rover. This is the top of Volvo’s game so gets every piece of kit thrown at it, Land Rover leaves me less interested from reliability, theft and dealer experience perspective, also, personally, think the xc90 is a lot more understated looks wise, I find a lot of the LR products a bit too bling.

There are a few errors in the article, top model is now ultra pro and other than that previous year dealer stock model hyperlinked, you sure can’t get 20k off, they’re on an agency model now so costs are more controlled. Also i’mgoing to be talking to them about “downgrading” the 22” default wheels with it so I can have a better ride and not worry about every road crater out there.

Mammasaid

5,392 posts

123 months

Yesterday (09:46)
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richinlondon said:
I m going tomorrow to talk to dealer about one ! Having had Volvos and them being utterly faultless for years and having driven one of these I d rate above land rover. This is the top of Volvo s game so gets every piece of kit thrown at it, Land Rover leaves me less interested from reliability, theft and dealer experience perspective, also, personally, think the xc90 is a lot more understated looks wise, I find a lot of the LR products a bit too bling.

There are a few errors in the article, top model is now ultra pro and other than that previous year dealer stock model hyperlinked, you sure can t get 20k off, they re on an agency model now so costs are more controlled. Also i mgoing to be talking to them about downgrading the 22 default wheels with it so I can have a better ride and not worry about every road crater out there.
Ultra at £66k, brand new

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202606032...

ducnick

2,178 posts

269 months

Yesterday (09:50)
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I had a look at these before setting on the Audi q7. There’s a lot to like about the Volvo, they are a handsome looking family bus with a decent boot…. But the ride quality, rough engine, and buttonless Chinese interior is not on the list of likes.

RacingPete

9,178 posts

230 months

Yesterday (09:55)
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I did the unthinkable last year and had to get 7 seats, and thus move out of my 340i touring. As a family of 6, taking two cars when we needed to go visit family was getting ridiculous.

I looked through a lot of the obvious choices in this category, and as I needed to tow there is very limited actual 7 seaters that are any good on the used markets. Was initially going X5, but finding the ones with the optional 7 seats is hard. Discos, maybe unfairly, just didn’t have the reliability reputation. So the XC90 became the choice.

I picked up a 2020 T8 inscription pro model last year for just under £36k (over half from original, and this year no luxury tax), and absolutely love it. Yes the engine can feel harsh when cold, it handles like the 2.5 tonne SUV it is. But as a place to eat up motorway miles, whether seeing family or towing the race car it is a lovely place to be. And has more space with all 7 seats than I could see from the competitors in the class - in fact I now use it as my “camper” when at race meetings, with all the seats folded I can get a double blow up mattress in the back.

richinlondon

858 posts

148 months

Yesterday (09:58)
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Mammasaid said:
richinlondon said:
I m going tomorrow to talk to dealer about one ! Having had Volvos and them being utterly faultless for years and having driven one of these I d rate above land rover. This is the top of Volvo s game so gets every piece of kit thrown at it, Land Rover leaves me less interested from reliability, theft and dealer experience perspective, also, personally, think the xc90 is a lot more understated looks wise, I find a lot of the LR products a bit too bling.

There are a few errors in the article, top model is now ultra pro and other than that previous year dealer stock model hyperlinked, you sure can t get 20k off, they re on an agency model now so costs are more controlled. Also i mgoing to be talking to them about downgrading the 22 default wheels with it so I can have a better ride and not worry about every road crater out there.
Ultra at £66k, brand new

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202606032...
Thats a xc60 not 90

cerb4.5lee

Original Poster:

42,682 posts

206 months

Yesterday (10:16)
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RacingPete said:
I did the unthinkable last year and had to get 7 seats, and thus move out of my 340i touring. As a family of 6, taking two cars when we needed to go visit family was getting ridiculous.

I looked through a lot of the obvious choices in this category, and as I needed to tow there is very limited actual 7 seaters that are any good on the used markets. Was initially going X5, but finding the ones with the optional 7 seats is hard. Discos, maybe unfairly, just didn t have the reliability reputation. So the XC90 became the choice.

I picked up a 2020 T8 inscription pro model last year for just under £36k (over half from original, and this year no luxury tax), and absolutely love it. Yes the engine can feel harsh when cold, it handles like the 2.5 tonne SUV it is. But as a place to eat up motorway miles, whether seeing family or towing the race car it is a lovely place to be. And has more space with all 7 seats than I could see from the competitors in the class - in fact I now use it as my camper when at race meetings, with all the seats folded I can get a double blow up mattress in the back.
Our 2024 X5 40d is a 7 seater, but like you say, they do seem rare though. I had a 2019 2.0 petrol loan car once, and I thought the interior ambience was lovely in it, plus I think they're a decent looking thing too, and far better looking than the X5 is for me.

Blue M5 Comp

852 posts

185 months

Yesterday (10:49)
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Very happy with my T8 it is a great place to be on many types of journeys very comfortable
I moved from a Range Rover to Volvo and so far it has been brilliant
the engine is fine and it has some shove but can sound rough
As stated really uneven roads can confuse the air suspension
Mpg is at 33 with limited charging if you use google maps it will utilise electric usage on your planned trip quite clever
I like the colour as well it is called Mulberry red
lastly everyone is so polite to Volvo drivers


Mammasaid

5,392 posts

123 months

Yesterday (11:27)
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richinlondon said:
Mammasaid said:
richinlondon said:
I m going tomorrow to talk to dealer about one ! Having had Volvos and them being utterly faultless for years and having driven one of these I d rate above land rover. This is the top of Volvo s game so gets every piece of kit thrown at it, Land Rover leaves me less interested from reliability, theft and dealer experience perspective, also, personally, think the xc90 is a lot more understated looks wise, I find a lot of the LR products a bit too bling.

There are a few errors in the article, top model is now ultra pro and other than that previous year dealer stock model hyperlinked, you sure can t get 20k off, they re on an agency model now so costs are more controlled. Also i mgoing to be talking to them about downgrading the 22 default wheels with it so I can have a better ride and not worry about every road crater out there.
Ultra at £66k, brand new

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202606032...
Thats a xc60 not 90
Yep, mea culpa, and Autotrader infiltrating other stuff in the results.

nismo48

6,576 posts

233 months

Yesterday (15:34)
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cerb4.5lee said:
I'd personally prefer more than a 4 cylinder in these, but I do like a lot about them though.
+1

biggbn

31,204 posts

246 months

Yesterday (15:56)
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Its Just Adz said:
I think these look great. No doubt drive great too.
But I can't help think, if I was in the market for a £90k luxury SUV, I'd be across the road at Land Rover.
Opposite for me, I'd have this over any JLR product. OK, you don't get the drama of a big V8 or the like but I bet its a wonderful way to travel serenely around...I just like Volvos...

EV8

519 posts

29 months

Yesterday (17:59)
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I had one briefly, god, that was dull and soul sucking. (2.0 diesel).
Got rid of it after a month and got a A Renault espace. That was at least super comfotable, with sofa seats. And way cheaper.

Murph7355

41,357 posts

282 months

Yesterday (19:12)
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richinlondon said:
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There are a few errors in the article, top model is now ultra pro and other than that previous year dealer stock model hyperlinked, you sure can t get 20k off, they re on an agency model now so costs are more controlled. Also i mgoing to be talking to them about downgrading the 22 default wheels with it so I can have a better ride and not worry about every road crater out there.
If you buy at the right time you can get that much off at least. Every year Volvo have "events" with dealer contributions, great trade ins etc etc...it's a large part of why we are now in our third.

These are fab family wagons. The OH really didn't want anything else.

Air suspension on the T8 is a must IMO. Car's a very comfortable place to be with it.

The infotainment in them is a step backwards from Sensus IMO. Too fiddly and missing a lot of steering wheel button controls that our 2016 car didn't suffer from.

I am also more convinced than ever that, apart from for towing, PHEV is a waste of time. Not convinced it really saves that much in terms of running costs...the EX90 was only just coming on stream when we got our latest, but am pretty sure we'd have either been in one of those or an EV9 had we been in the market a year later.

All that said, lovely cars to spend time in smile

Murph7355

41,357 posts

282 months

Yesterday (19:15)
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nismo48 said:
cerb4.5lee said:
I'd personally prefer more than a 4 cylinder in these, but I do like a lot about them though.
+1
If you're revving the nuts off it all the time, you're driving the wrong car. That's not what it's for.

Most of the time you can barely tell the engine's on.

Magikarp

1,643 posts

74 months

Yesterday (19:50)
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NGK210 said:
Good to see Volvo sticking to its traditional safety-first principles in defiance of imbecilic customer demand.
Oh no, wait, the third row of seats is actually in the rear crumple zone.
Perhaps you ought to fax them a copy of your resume, and advise them where the seats should go.