RE: Porsche E-Shift equips Taycan with 'gear ratios'
RE: Porsche E-Shift equips Taycan with 'gear ratios'
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Porsche E-Shift equips Taycan with 'gear ratios'

Simulated shifts coming to Porsche's EV at last - with more range and new infotainment, too


Time waits for no carmaker in the era of the software-defined automobile. So, just a couple of years after the second-generation Taycan was introduced, there’s another meaningful update. For the MY2027, there’s an entirely new infotainment system, up to 434 miles thanks to some new summer tyres for the rear-drive models, plus the introduction of Porsche E-Shift. 

That’s right, after resisting the technology for quite a while, Porsche now has simulated gears on an electric car. As an option rather than standard fit, of course, and requiring at least the Bose Surround Sound to be fitted, because Porsche is still going to Porsche. But with some useful new features (again, Porsche being Porsche) that should elevate the E-Shift experience above comparable systems. 

See every derivative in the range is going to get its own version of the feature, with mapping and sound (Porsche Electric Sport Sound has also been revised) specific to each one for a unique ‘acoustic and driving profile’. So a Taycan GTS with Porsche E-Shift is going to feel different to a standard car, a Turbo to a 4S and so on. Which is quite cool. There will be eight ratios included, a new virtual revcounter, and the E-Shift activated by a blue switch on the GT steering wheel. The features we’ve come to expect of EV gears - ‘engine braking’ going down, jolts going up - are included, with the intention to ‘convey an authentic, dynamic gear-shifting sensation’. One to try out asap, for sure. 

On top of that, the Taycan infotainment has been totally overhauled, to bring it into line with the battery-powered Macan and Cayenne. The latest PCM promises up to five times the processing power of before, to better respond to your furious finger prodding. There’s even a new Porsche acronym to remember as well: Porsche DI, or Porsche Digital Interaction (and definitely not PDI, because every car dealer has that already), the latest operating and display system which ‘blends aesthetics and functionality.’

So while a lot of the icons look familiar, there are new features like a 3D render of the car on the home screen (which can control key features), a Themes app to personalise appearance, and enhanced voice control. That now extends as far as opening the charging flap without pressing a button, and having access to a voice-based handbook when you can’t remember what side it is. Oh yes, and phones will wirelessly charge faster now also - everyone’s happy.

Finally, for those who want the ultimate in electric performance, the latest refresh opens up ordering for the Taycan Turbo GT Manthey Kit. Remember it must be a two-seat Weissach Package car, and the Porsche you’ll get back will be left-hand drive, but it will get around the Nordschleife faster than a 918 Spyder. And buying one guarantees you GT3 RS allocations for life. Probably. 

Head of the Taycan model line, Kevin Giek, said: "By introducing comprehensive innovations for the model year change, we are strengthening the Taycan in all relevant areas: the latest models offer a more emotive driving experience, greater track performance and more intuitive and customisable operation." The MY2027 Taycan is available to order from Porsche Centres now, though there’s no word yet on pricing - either for the cars, or the E-Shift option.

Best to expect a small increase over what’s gone before, which saw the range start at £88,200 (or £89,200 as a Sport Turismo). A 4S was £96,200, a GTS £118,200 and a Turbo £135,200. We’ll let you do your own investigating on those lightly used ones for sale on PH at less than that - but E-Shift does sound worth having…


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georgeyboy12345

Original Poster:

4,497 posts

61 months

But why.

Why pretend to be something you are not?

It seems very very weird to me.

Who does this appeal to? Adults with the minds of children?

Steve7777

243 posts

175 months

If they’re going to go down that road, it’s a shame they didn’t make it so it’s switchable between the ratios/power/sound of the GT V10, air-cooled flat six, 959 twin-turbo etc. They’ve certainly got the back catalogue if they wanted to make a simulator for the road.

fantheman80

2,480 posts

75 months

When folk transitioned from horse and cart to the car, wonder if they carried a bucket of horse st on the passenger seat to assist with the transition

Murph7355

41,546 posts

282 months

The 12yr old head of product line clearly has a long list of all the things Taycan needs and is steadily working bottom up.


jinba-ittai

1,346 posts

236 months

georgeyboy12345 said:
But why.

Why pretend to be something you are not?

It seems very very weird to me.

Who does this appeal to? Adults with the minds of children?
Same reason most modern performance ICE cars play engine sounds through the speakers

Noserider5

95 posts

152 months

Brrrrrrrrmmmmm, Brrrrrrrrrrrrm, Schreeeeeeech, Neeee Naw, Neeee Naw, Neeee Naw

flight147z

1,362 posts

155 months

Such a weird feature

Why not add a handle to the front that you can wind before you get in to simulate starting the engine?

CedricN

852 posts

171 months

It really sounds extremely corny, but apparently it somehow works on the Hyundai N and feels quite fun, Ive yet to test it myself though smile

RacerMike

4,749 posts

237 months

georgeyboy12345 said:
But why.

Why pretend to be something you are not?

It seems very very weird to me.

Who does this appeal to? Adults with the minds of children?
Have a drive of an EV with the feature and come back to me. It's impressively engaging and it's hard not to like it. I'm all for it.

IanJ9375

1,625 posts

242 months

Steve7777 said:
If they re going to go down that road, it s a shame they didn t make it so it s switchable between the ratios/power/sound of the GT V10, air-cooled flat six, 959 twin-turbo etc. They ve certainly got the back catalogue if they wanted to make a simulator for the road.
That's actually a good shout

fooman

1,129 posts

90 months

As the battery depletes I want the performance to improve and the handling to change, just like it does as fuel tank becomes lighter. Without this effect, I do not feel engaged with my driving.

GeniusOfLove

5,266 posts

38 months

That's just... a bit embarrassing.

Stuff like your car making "brum brum" noises for you and the fake jolt to feel like a badly executed gear change in a car based on 120 year old technology really makes it hard to argue that people into performance cars aren't a pack of absolute wallies.

It really wants a full set of Porsche branded clothing to enjoy these new features, I think.

Edited by GeniusOfLove on Wednesday 17th June 14:43

RacerMike

4,749 posts

237 months

GeniusOfLove said:
That's just... a bit embarrassing.

Stuff like your car making "brum brum" noises for you and the fake jolt to feel like a badly executed gear change in a car based on 120 year old technology really makes it hard to argue that people into performance cars aren't a pack of absolute wallies.

It really wants a full set of Porsche branded clothing to enjoy these new features, I think.

Edited by GeniusOfLove on Wednesday 17th June 14:43
Basically anything with a ZF8HP can seemlessly shift without any torque interruption, but most manufacturers choose to add in an artificial torque bump or interuption when in Sport/Manual mode to make it more involving for drivers. I can understand peoples reluctance when it comes to artificial engine sounds in ICE cars etc, but for a good 50 years of car production you could argue that nearly all driven attributes are 'artificial' since they've been tuned to be a certain way by the engineers who developed the car. Absolutely every car could ride wonderfully, but they and we choose to compromise that to have more fun for the 1% of time we drive our cars on a windy road for pleasure.


cerb4.5lee

42,876 posts

206 months

RacerMike said:
georgeyboy12345 said:
But why.

Why pretend to be something you are not?

It seems very very weird to me.

Who does this appeal to? Adults with the minds of children?
Have a drive of an EV with the feature and come back to me. It's impressively engaging and it's hard not to like it. I'm all for it.
Wouldn't it just be easier buying a car with a gearbox and engine in it in the first place though?

I don't like the fakeness to be honest, but I appreciate that some folk will like it though, don't get me wrong.

I'm going to start pretending that I'm 6'5" rather than only 5'8" I reckon!

PSB1967

454 posts

182 months

Looking at the picture of the rev counter, it seems Porsche have created a fake gearbox that's too long for the UK, just like their real ones. I wonder if there's a section in the Porsche DI for tuning the ratios.

huwdm

644 posts

207 months

I believe there is an option for a fuel cap

GeniusOfLove

5,266 posts

38 months

RacerMike said:
Basically anything with a ZF8HP can seemlessly shift without any torque interruption, but most manufacturers choose to add in an artificial torque bump or interuption when in Sport/Manual mode to make it more involving for drivers. I can understand peoples reluctance when it comes to artificial engine sounds in ICE cars etc, but for a good 50 years of car production you could argue that nearly all driven attributes are 'artificial' since they've been tuned to be a certain way by the engineers who developed the car. Absolutely every car could ride wonderfully, but they and we choose to compromise that to have more fun for the 1% of time we drive our cars on a windy road for pleasure.
The handling setup is 90% marketing I think, nobody wants to admit that actually they're a fart who would be better served by the best possible ride setup at pretty much any consequence to handling because they've never gone round a bend at a speed a 1959 Triumph Herald couldn't have managed with huge cornering capacity to spare.

I think there is a difference between tuning the behaviour of something the car has (engine for sound, gearbox for shifts) to suit certain characteristics than to entirely and artificially recreate them. The difference between optimising something you have and just straight up faking it, although speakers in the exhaust of a diesel Audi SUV so people outside think you've got a better engine is very much the automotive equivalent of putting socks down the front of your pants.

There is a total lack of authenticity and honesty of purpose to most cars now though.

Kawasicki

14,301 posts

261 months

Driving electric cars fast and especially on the limit gets easier with sound and vibration. It’s actually stupidly easy to end up with ridiculously high driven wheel speeds at low driving speeds, especially on snow and ice. Sound and vibration also gives you an approximate expectation of what is coming next. Imagine driving a silent and smooth… and seriously rabid V12 with a CVT that means it is always at its most ferocious power delivery rev range, then just handing that out to punters and saying “good luck in the wet”.
I drive cars like these and they can lose control so ridiculously quickly that even when I am expecting it I am at my absolute limit of what I can control.

CountyLines

5,163 posts

29 months

georgeyboy12345 said:
But why.

Why pretend to be something you are not?

It seems very very weird to me.

Who does this appeal to? Adults with the minds of children?
Every single journalist who has driven the originator of this, the Ionic 5N, sings it's praises and says it enhances the drive massively.

jenkosrugby

252 posts

246 months

georgeyboy12345 said:
But why.

Why pretend to be something you are not?

It seems very very weird to me.

Who does this appeal to? Adults with the minds of children?
Because massive marketing departments spend millions trying very hard to understand what their target market wants. No doubt, you are not a target customer, but you have to remember people have differing views of such things. I understand that most who have driven the Hyundai they are fantastic with the simulated gears. Always best to experience these sort of things before 'assuming'