RE: 'Extraordinary' Peugeot 205 GTI | Spotted
RE: 'Extraordinary' Peugeot 205 GTI | Spotted
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'Extraordinary' Peugeot 205 GTI | Spotted

Not the only £50k 205 GTI out there - but potentially the best 


We’re a long way past the point of the Peugeot 205 GTI’s icon status having been assured. It was too perfect from the get-go, and too many of Peugeot’s subsequent hot hatches not good enough, for anything else to occur. It just took a drastic decline in numbers for many to realise, and now they’re all worth a pretty penny. We know that, you know that, but for those that didn’t, Peugeot will insist on bringing back the 205 whenever possible - see the e-208 GTI reveal as proof. 

Here’s a car that has the stats to stand on its own, or at most with a passing mention of the 205, but there always has to be pics of the latest GTI with the classic. And they’re never flattering for the new car. So the lusting and longing for a 205 begins all over again, because you wouldn’t really change a thing. 

Indeed where now at the point where the 205 GTI is being treated like a classic British sports car or Porsche 911, with huge amounts of time and money being invested in sourcing and restoring the best. Tolman can’t make Editions fast enough. Once-divisive Dimma builds are now big-ticket collectables. Even MI-16 swaps are in demand for those who care more about the thrill of a great GTI than originality. Four decades on, still nothing quite excites enthusiasts like a 205 GTI. Which Peugeot has just reminded us all of again with its new electric car. 

There can’t be many left in the world better than this one, and that really isn’t an exaggeration. The spec is spot on, for starters, a Cherry Red 1.9 that’s late enough to have the galvanised panels while early enough to go without a cat, but that really is just the very beginning of the appeal. 

The original owner was fastidious to say the least. It’s easy to imagine every GTI in the late '80s going to a scallywag or a yuppie (or a scallywag yuppie), but there were conscientious owners also. This went back to the selling dealer every six months for a service regardless of how much driving had occurred; and it was never very much, because in eight years it covered just 8,000 miles. Most cars would do more than that between one service, and this would have had 16!

Probably in the prime of its life at that point (1996), the GTI actually then went into storage for the best part of 20 years. But don’t go thinking it was dumped in a barn and forgotten about, as the devoted owner checked up on their little Pug weekly, keeping a handwritten ledger of the car’s condition and any money that was spent keeping it tip-top. The ad reckons it’s ‘one of the most extraordinary records of ownership we have ever encountered.’

The dealer selling it now is the one that bought it from the original owner in 2014, part of their collection for a decade and a bit until last year. And this is where it gets really good, as £15,000 was spent on a restoration; or actually, as they call it, ‘a comprehensive recommissioning programme designed to make the car drive and perform exactly as Peugeot intended in 1988.’ So everything perishable was renewed, the cooling system overhauled and a cavity wax applied underneath, among other things, to make the perfect Peugeot time machine. 

Perhaps most encouraging of all, though, is the commitment of the work to making this a 205 GTI to be enjoyed. Because these cars don’t belong cooped up in garages and exhibitions; more than a whole host of classics, it’s there to be driven. As the advert puts it (better than we would, in fact): ‘It is a car that could be enjoyed on a Sunday morning B-road blast, displayed at the finest concours event, or pointed towards the South of France for a grand touring holiday without hesitation.’ The do-it-all classic hot hatch hero that wants for nothing, basically. 

Which sounds pretty much irresistible. Yes, it costs as much as a new Golf GTI 50; yes, you’ll probably always worry a little bit about an 8,000-mile, £50,000 205 GTI; and no, it probably won’t thrill quite like a 200hp Tolman build. But as a reminder of why this little car is the icon that it is, we’ve never seen better. Be sure to keep that ledger up to date…


SPECIFICATION | PEUGEOT 205 GTI 1.9

Engine: 1,905cc four-cylinder
Transmission: 5-speed manual, front-wheel drive
Power (hp): 130@6,000rpm
Torque (lb ft): 118@4,750rpm
MPG: 30ish
CO2: N/A
Recorded miles: 8,200
Year registered: 1988
Price new: £9,295
Yours for: £50,000

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pgn340r

Original Poster:

108 posts

233 months

Owned one myself back in the day, a cracking little car.

Anybody that is dropping £50,000 on it is hardly going to take it on a touring holiday to the South of France unless on the back of a trailer!

Personally I am not a fan of the sunroof as I think it detracts from the lines of the car.

200Plus Club

13,211 posts

304 months

Had two, a 1.6 first then a 1.9
Both fabulous cars for their time, but if (big if) I wanted to revisit one it wouldn't be with 50 grand and it being too nice to thrash around in and chuck miles on.
Someone will probably offer enough to take it and put it away in an air chamber I imagine.

Slowlygettingit

907 posts

67 months

Had one for 2.5 years in the mid nineties.
Yes it was the best hot hatch at the time - with mates having all the competition lots of driving each others cars, it proved to be the most fun.
But boy was it fragile. Don t know whether it was a Friday afternoon car but we spent 150% of the purchase price over 2 years on stupid niggles, daft little issues and a snapped cam belt (ouch!) that went way earlier than expected.
Have no desire to revisit the pleasure or pain.


Just checked it’s mot history and surprisingly it soldiered on until 2007 and another 60k miles with a huge mot fail in 06 and again early 07.
I doubt it is sat in storage now…….poor little fecker…..

Edited by Slowlygettingit on Sunday 21st June 07:27

Chubbyross

4,939 posts

111 months

I've never been a fan of hot hatchbacks but the 205 GTI was just so perfect, especially in this colour. Not sure I'd spend this amount of money on one though. It's practically undriveable at this price.

Rob 131 Sport

4,612 posts

78 months

At least it’s the 1.9 with decent performance and better looks over the 1.6.

rossub

5,757 posts

216 months

Wow, what a thing.

Simon_GH

919 posts

106 months

Rob 131 Sport said:
At least it s the 1.9 with decent performance and better looks over the 1.6.
The 1.9 wheels (1” larger) make a big difference but there’s an everlasting debate to whether the slightly slower 1.6 was a better drive due to its more free revving engine.

GreatScott2016

2,402 posts

114 months

Yes, it’s a lovely thing that I yearned for when I was a spotty teenager, but at that price, it’s sadly destined for another collection frown

Water Fairy

6,513 posts

181 months

No longer a car unfortunately, just a museum piece.


scenario8

7,775 posts

205 months

It’s very nice, and pretty, but I don’t really “do” nostalgia, I don’t have much money, I’ve never had much money and thus I’ve never learnt the habit of liking trinkets enough to spend such sums on them.

I have to acknowledge shed loads of people do have shed loads of money and do value things very differently to me. I fully expect someone will scoop this up. Hopefully it will bring them joy. Moreover, hopefully it will see some miles (rather than find itself locked away) so the rest of us get the opportunity to spot it in action and feel all wistful for a moment or two.

Fwiw I didn’t really like them in red at the time but beggars can’t be choosers.

LotusOmega375D

9,188 posts

179 months

Probably great to drive. A friend of mine had a nearly new red 1.9 identical to that back in the day. It was terrific. Conversely a few years later another mate bought a leggy grey 1.9 and it was an absolutely awful drive: feeble performance, tired suspension and broken driver’s seat. Sure the featured 8200 mile car is expensive, but better than throwing money at a cheap sow’s ear to try and make a silk purse.

Simmos

113 posts

172 months

Slowlygettingit said:
...But boy was it fragile. Don t know whether it was a Friday afternoon car but we spent 150% of the purchase price over 2 years on stupid niggles, daft little issues and a snapped cam belt (ouch!) that went way earlier than expected.
I had one new in '89.

It was forever stalling. With anyone in the back the (standard) rear tyres rubbed on the arches over bumps. The interior lights came on when going around corners.. And to top it off, it blew it's head gasket at around 8k miles (3 of the head bolts were not tightened!)

I agree with not liking them in red and that the sunroof ruined the look.

A friend had a 1.6 at the time and I remember thinking that was, over all, the better car.

I have far better memories of the Mk1 Golf GTI's that I had before.

Davie

6,076 posts

241 months

LotusOmega375D said:
Probably great to drive. A friend of mine had a nearly new red 1.9 identical to that back in the day. It was terrific. Conversely a few years later another mate bought a leggy grey 1.9 and it was an absolutely awful drive: feeble performance, tired suspension and broken driver s seat. Sure the featured 8200 mile car is expensive, but better than throwing money at a cheap sow s ear to try and make a silk purse.
I'm not sure on that!

At £50k, you couldn't use this... or at least not use it as 1.9 GTi are meant to be used. These days I'm not sure baggy, tired one exists as all gave now become sought after but even if you bought a good one at say £10k... you wouldn't need to spend another £40k to make it an awesome little thing to enjoy.

This one is pure collectable / tuck it away / roll it out once a decade material now and fair enough if that's your thing. I don't think anybody is buying this one to hammer about or relive the late 90's hit hatch day carnage at Knockhill. You could build something utterly epic to use fir that for a fraction of the asking price.

andy43

12,851 posts

280 months

There are really tidy ones around for 20k - still expensive but at least they’d be usable.
This one is a museum piece.

Clad-Hach

488 posts

14 months

Around that time I was looking for a new hot hatch, I looked at the XR3i, Astra GTE, 205 GTi and Golf GTi.

After a prod and a poke around all of them I settled on the VW, however the 205 was a very close second as it looked the best.

If people are paying strong money for Fords these days this one deserves its £50k asking price, after all its a way superior hot hatch than any of the Fords ever were.


Bluehorseshoe

56 posts

1 month

My mum had a silver 1.6 then a cherry red 1.9 (sadly had a very bad accident in). Both great cars and felt properly sporty in the 80s.

Post that era i think Peugeot just lost something thst made it special. The 306 and 106 maybe came a little close but the dress that has followed since is a crying shame. They are perhaps like the French Subaru at one time brilliant and since then abandoned what made them legends in favour of also ran status.

fflump

3,239 posts

64 months

Guess it’s just like matchbox cars for rich folk. How many cars do you need to have before this becomes a proposition seriously. May be a cultural landmark but nothing about the car like design engine interior says £50k. I get the nostalgia thing but for me it’s cars I lusted after as a youngun like the Ferrari 456 for which £50k would get a nice example. While I don’t understand the enthusiasm for this type of car the shift away in interest and prices from earlier classics like the E-type or Interceptor is certainly welcome

ITP

2,580 posts

223 months

I’d rather have a 10-20k one and be able to use it. So much fun compared to pretty much every modern car.

PSRG

827 posts

152 months

Simon_GH said:
Rob 131 Sport said:
At least it s the 1.9 with decent performance and better looks over the 1.6.
The 1.9 wheels (1 larger) make a big difference but there s an everlasting debate to whether the slightly slower 1.6 was a better drive due to its more free revving engine.
Like many people at the time I put the 1.9 wheels on my 1.6, which was red and had a sunroof. Mine was 4 years old when I bought it IIRC. Also like many at the time, because it had come out a few years later, I couldn’t afford a 1.9 GTi… so there were endless reasons why the 1.6 was the better car. In reality, it was better because we had one, and couldn’t afford the 1.9. But I wouldn’t say no today, and £50k doesn’t even seem wildly ridiculous to me. That’s nostalgia for you smile

TheMilkyBarKid

856 posts

55 months

Simmos said:
Slowlygettingit said:
...But boy was it fragile. Don t know whether it was a Friday afternoon car but we spent 150% of the purchase price over 2 years on stupid niggles, daft little issues and a snapped cam belt (ouch!) that went way earlier than expected.
I had one new in '89.

It was forever stalling. With anyone in the back the (standard) rear tyres rubbed on the arches over bumps. The interior lights came on when going around corners.. And to top it off, it blew it's head gasket at around 8k miles (3 of the head bolts were not tightened!)

I agree with not liking them in red and that the sunroof ruined the look.

A friend had a 1.6 at the time and I remember thinking that was, over all, the better car.

I have far better memories of the Mk1 Golf GTI's that I had before.
I have (mostly) fond memories of my 1.9 but agree with both of you. As fun as it was to drive, reliable it was not. I had a litany of issues with flakey electrics, stalling (once halfway across a level crossing and the bloody thing wouldn’t start againyikes ) overheating, bits of interior trim just snapping off, and brake servo issues too. This one is a museum piece and I’d still love another go in one that has had a proper going over, but I no longer yearn to own another. For me, I’m glad I owned one back in the day but I don’t feel the need to try and recapture my youth.