RE: Iconic McLaren F1 GTR expected to fetch £26m
RE: Iconic McLaren F1 GTR expected to fetch £26m
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Iconic McLaren F1 GTR expected to fetch £26m

We know a thing or two about auctions - and Nick Mason's one-of-two XP GTR might take the biscuit


Anyway you approach chassis 10R, its pedigree is remarkable. Rare? Blindingly. McLaren only built two Short-Tail prototype (XP) GTRs; the other one won Le Mans in 1995. Special? Lord, yes - the manufacturer itself went to the trouble of converting the car for road use. Famous? The unique factory livery makes it arguably the most recognisable McLaren F1 of them all. Provenance? If that lot weren’t enough, the car has been owned by Nick Mason - he of Pink Floyd drum banging fame, but also one of the world’s preeminent car collectors - since 1999. 

Even the car’s crashes and subsequent restorations are well known, a journalist (who else) guilty of putting K40 MCL into a field in 2009; and Mason himself coming a cropper at Goodwood Members’ Meeting in 2017. On both occasions, the remedial work was undertaken by Lanzante, which is another way of saying that the car probably ended up in finer fettle than it was before the damage occurred. Certainly it has had no impact on RM Sotheby’s valuation, which suggests that ‘The Pop Art F1’ ought to fetch in excess of $35m (or £26m) when it goes under the hammer at Monterey next month. 

Why Mason is finally selling the car that he alone has privately owned since McLaren sold it to him nearly three decades ago isn’t immediately clear, though its availability is virtually guaranteed to attract the attention of every money-no-object collector. So much so that Sotheby’s clearly feels like the ground is sufficiently solid for its expectation to overshadow the most ever paid for an F1 previously. Achieving its guide price would see 10R comfortably into the top ten most expensive cars ever to feature at auction. 

Which frankly doesn’t seem unreasonable. Speaking on the subject of its prospective sale, Gordon Murray, the man not just responsible for the F1 itself, but also the decision to go with the XP’s eye-popping livery, said: “It’s not just a motor car. It’s a one-off, basically, and it has a very important history… Anyone who ends up being the lucky owner is going to be the owner and custodian of something truly unique.” 

Unique and not a little thrilling either. When he drove the car for an Autocar feature, Sutcliffe was sufficiently moved by the experience to write of it: “The GTR fired itself at the horizon, and the sense of acceleration was just about all I could take. Coupled with the huge and beautiful noise from the BMW engine and the howl from the exhaust, it really was almost too much.” PH was there that day and can testify to the ferocious sound made by K40 MCL - so all-consuming in fact, that Steve’s running commentary could not be heard from the passenger’s seat. 

Naturally, the auctioneer is keen to highlight the car’s precise position in the F1 annals - it being the first GTR to receive the revised bodywork, improved aero and lightweight magnesium gearbox casing, and driven by David Brabham in testing at Circuit de la Sarthe in 1996 - not to mention Mason’s ‘open-checkbook’ approach to its subsequent maintenance. But you hardly need to have read the fine print to know instinctively why Mason’s F1 is hypercar royalty. Expect the response at Monterey to be appropriately reverential. 


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Bluehorseshoe

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103 posts

2 months

Yesterday (14:56)
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I would not be surprised if it his £40m if the right set of billionaires are bidding. Musk owns an F1 Zuckerberg a Koniggsegge and Gates an XJ220 so its not like their wont be people with deep pockets who like very rare cars. The Mercedes I've csr reached 100m I can't see this doing that but 30m maybe or 40m I mean if you are worth 10bn plus why not

CountyLines

5,490 posts

30 months

Yesterday (15:05)
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PH:- We know a thing or two about auctions.

You know nothing about auctions like this one, I'm afraid.

chazwozza

955 posts

213 months

Yesterday (15:32)
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Bluehorseshoe said:
I would not be surprised if it his £40m if the right set of billionaires are bidding. Musk owns an F1 Zuckerberg a Koniggsegge and Gates an XJ220 so its not like their wont be people with deep pockets who like very rare cars. The Mercedes I've csr reached 100m I can't see this doing that but 30m maybe or 40m I mean if you are worth 10bn plus why not
Pedant moment - UIAM all those cars no longer reside with the corresponding owners. Maybe zuckers. Anyway good point and hope to see it smash expectations but also go to someone who will use it!

Every day a journey

2,972 posts

65 months

Yesterday (15:37)
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There are also some other absolutely epic cars in that sale including the opportunity for one lucky person (if they wish) to purchase almost perfect examples of the Ferrari 'Big Five' in one day.

Now that lot I would, possibly, take over this rather fine McLaren. Maybe.

MountainsofSussex

409 posts

213 months

Yesterday (16:00)
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This is a very cool thing from my youth, so I totally get it being rather valuable! But just pondering, as an investment, if it's peaked. Prices for 60s and 70s stuff (even 250GTO) is cooling as the people that coveted them are now getting too decrepit to drive those cars. So if you're planning on buying something iconic 90s as an investment and keeping it for 10 years, will the price for these cars start to soften as my generation can no longer squeeze into them?

Bluehorseshoe

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103 posts

2 months

Yesterday (16:21)
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MountainsofSussex said:
This is a very cool thing from my youth, so I totally get it being rather valuable! But just pondering, as an investment, if it's peaked. Prices for 60s and 70s stuff (even 250GTO) is cooling as the people that coveted them are now getting too decrepit to drive those cars. So if you're planning on buying something iconic 90s as an investment and keeping it for 10 years, will the price for these cars start to soften as my generation can no longer squeeze into them?
That's a very good point I have always thought were I super wealthy its cars from about the 1980s onwards but really the 90s i would want. A Jaguar D type does zero for me and while a DB5 is nice I prefer the Vantage V550. Sure a 250 GTO being 1 or 39 I think is always going to have some appeal but in the end the F1 likely appeals more to people in their 40s who saw it on TV an now have billions to spend.

I do wonder if we will ever see classic car like love for a Tesla or a i4 like we do for old ford RS's and BMW M3's

Peloton25

989 posts

265 months

Yesterday (16:26)
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Been a while since I’ve participated here, but a couple of important counterpoints:

Unlike the road car variants, no F1 GTR was ever given the “XP” designation in period. RM published this detail in their catalog description but it is not accurate.

A bigger issue with the article is that Nick Mason sold this GTR quietly in 2024, so it has not been continuously owned by him since 1999 and he is not involved in this auction effort. This is a fact that was not made clear with the listing catalog description which is carefully worded to say he was its one private owner. It is true that no private individual has owned it nor was it registered by anyone else in the two year period since leaving his collection, so a fair statement just not a transparent one.

>8^)
ER

LarJammer

2,419 posts

237 months

Yesterday (16:59)
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Thanks for your input peloton.
Its a shame that even high end auctions use carefully worded descriptions which will mislead the unwary.
As for the £26m guide - nah, I cant see it reaching that.

Bencolem

1,172 posts

266 months

Yesterday (17:03)
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No MOT history for K40 MCL? Was hoping there might have been some advisories that I could use to barter the price down a bit.

thegreenhell

23,112 posts

246 months

Yesterday (17:21)
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How much did it sell for in 2024, and to whom?

Angelo1985

762 posts

53 months

Yesterday (17:33)
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I wonder what the insurance would be on that…

Peloton25

989 posts

265 months

Yesterday (18:14)
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Bencolem said:
No MOT history for K40 MCL? Was hoping there might have been some advisories that I could use to barter the price down a bit.
Realizing you were kidding, there was continuous MOT history up until the registration was cancelled after the 2024 sale. Not sure if that data is publicly archived anywhere.

thegreenhell said:
How much did it sell for in 2024, and to whom?
It was acquired by a corporation or investor group associated with said corporation and the sale price has not been disclosed. Potentially the GTR was also used in trade for something Mason wanted to add to his garage that would be more usable for him than this was.

>8^)
ER


JustGREENI

606 posts

207 months

Yesterday (19:22)
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At last, something decent to spend my money on..













...ice cream van just pulled up outside.

outnumbered

4,844 posts

261 months

Yesterday (19:39)
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In the rather unlikely event that I could afford an F1, I'd prefer an original road car rather than a converted race car. So I'm happy to let our billionaire overlords fight it out over this one.

Tango13

9,980 posts

203 months

Yesterday (20:08)
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If you read Nick Masons' book 'Into the Red' it took three years of 'negotiations' before Nick Mason finally relented and bought this car.

Nick Mason had a McLaren M15 that he had spent a few years trying to restore which Ron Dennis claimed he wasn't that interested in buying and Nick Mason was of the opinion that he could manage without an F1 in his life so it took three years of too and fro with Gordon Murray acting the middle man before the deal was done.

Olivergt

2,238 posts

108 months

Yesterday (20:25)
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Tango13 said:
If you read Nick Masons' book 'Into the Red' it took three years of 'negotiations' before Nick Mason finally relented and bought this car.

Nick Mason had a McLaren M15 that he had spent a few years trying to restore which Ron Dennis claimed he wasn't that interested in buying and Nick Mason was of the opinion that he could manage without an F1 in his life so it took three years of too and fro with Gordon Murray acting the middle man before the deal was done.
I shall dig out my copy and have a read. It's been a while but don't remember an F1 in it, so will have to refresh my memory.

I do remember they used an e46 m3 for a reference lap, so you could get a better idea of how fast some of the cars actually are, especially some of the older ones.

thegreenhell

23,112 posts

246 months

Yesterday (20:29)
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Olivergt said:
I shall dig out my copy and have a read. It's been a while but don't remember an F1 in it, so will have to refresh my memory.

I do remember they used an e46 m3 for a reference lap, so you could get a better idea of how fast some of the cars actually are, especially some of the older ones.
I don't think it was in the first edition, as he didn't own it then. It was added to the reprinted version a few years later.

Peloton25

989 posts

265 months

Yesterday (20:34)
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That is a great part of the story and do love my copy of that book.

It also notes that Nick had an early connection with the McLaren supercar project as an advisor, and loaned some of his own cars like his F40 for a Gordon to sample. Gordon credits Nick with suggested improvements to the F1 like its very usable ride height, the 10-disc CD changer, and an integrated battery tender connection point as things owners would prefer.

>8^)
ER

SydneyBridge

11,474 posts

185 months

Yesterday (20:39)
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I only have the first edition of the book, still with the cd though...

Tango13

9,980 posts

203 months

Yesterday (20:43)
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Olivergt said:
Tango13 said:
If you read Nick Masons' book 'Into the Red' it took three years of 'negotiations' before Nick Mason finally relented and bought this car.

Nick Mason had a McLaren M15 that he had spent a few years trying to restore which Ron Dennis claimed he wasn't that interested in buying and Nick Mason was of the opinion that he could manage without an F1 in his life so it took three years of too and fro with Gordon Murray acting the middle man before the deal was done.
I shall dig out my copy and have a read. It's been a while but don't remember an F1 in it, so will have to refresh my memory.

I do remember they used an e46 m3 for a reference lap, so you could get a better idea of how fast some of the cars actually are, especially some of the older ones.
My copy is a 2004 imprint but has no mention of e46 M3 reference laps confused