RE: Latest combustion powered Mercedes C-Class debuts
RE: Latest combustion powered Mercedes C-Class debuts
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Latest combustion powered Mercedes C-Class debuts

The 'most comprehensive technical upgrade in the history of the C-Class' is on sale now - here's the need to know


While Mercedes’ C-segment focus of late has been on the battery powered C-Class - it representing the bold leap into the future of electrified execs - the combustion car wasn’t going to be totally left behind. Everybody is patently aware now of what happens when attempting to entirely replace (or at least significantly supplant) a combustion dominated line up with an all electric one. For the sake of the C-Class’s success, the engines had to stick around. 

Which means we have this, the ‘most comprehensive technical upgrade in the history of the C-Class’, with changes to everything from top to bottom and end to end. Much like the larger S-Class in fact, this C is more significantly updated than the modest visual update might imply. From the rear, it’ll only be the numberplate that tells this new C apart from an old ‘206 gen car; at the front the change is more noticeable, with the larger, S-Class style grille and micro LED Digital Light. As is becoming a Mercedes calling card, there are black panels and hot stamped stars aplenty. More things are illuminated than just the headlights (and perhaps more than there should be). Mercedes says the new light signature ‘enhances the impact of the athletic design and gives the new C?Class an added emotional appeal.’ It’s undoubtedly more distinctive than before, we’ll give it that. Expect the newly introduced AMG Line Plus, boasting a ‘clear statement of performance’ with a rear spoiler, Night Package and sports seats, to be very popular here. On C200s, mainly.

The inside is also recognisable from before thanks to the portrait display. Plenty is new, though, including new colour and trim elements to increase personalisation options (and hopefully perceived quality as well). A rocker switch for Distronic and a volume control roller have found their way back onto the wheel. Plus the important options - seats and sound - are said to be further improved from before, allowing ‘driver and front passenger to enjoy every journey in relaxed comfort and arrive feeling refreshed, even after long distances.’

The big news inside is probably the tech, though, a total overhaul of MBUX to keep the C-Class fresh in a rapidly changing automotive space. There’s Augmented Reality nav, for one thing, underpinned by Google Maps, so there’ll be no excuses for getting lost. Or being late. We’re now on the fourth generation of the Mercedes Benz User Experience, and for this car it harnesses the ability of ChatGPT, Microsoft Bing and Google Gemini, so you’ll never again have to wait or pull over to answer that question that’s just popped into your head - the car will know. What’s the capital of Burkina Faso? How tall is Matt Damon? When was the Golden Gate Bridge built? And so on. Road trips, commutes, and traffic jams will never be the same again. (The answers are Ouagadougou, 1.78m, and construction finished in 1937.)

The AI is more than just a quizmaster, too, Mercedes suggesting that the MBUX Virtual Assistant is ‘exceptionally intuitive and personal’ - which we can’t always say about those onboard. ‘Like a well-informed companion, the virtual assistant can conduct complex, multi-part conversations and retain context through short-term memory.’ There is a choice of three avatars to be pals with and, because it’s always listening, ‘can identify suitable music and podcast content from the conversational context and play it directly.’ Which doesn’t sound at all creepy or prone to mistakes whatsoever. 

To more familiar territory. While there are no new AMG C-Classes for the moment - indeed there’s nothing with more than four cylinders - the entire gamut of modern combustion powertrains are available. There are mild hybrid petrols, plug-in hybrid petrols (with up to 55kW charging and 62 miles of range), plus a couple of diesels with 2,000 bar direct injection and biofuel compatibility. That means C200, C250, C300, C400e, C200d and C250d from launch. However you want your C-Class powered, from diesel to battery, it’s available. Apart from a V8.

Nevertheless, the latest C-Class should be better to drive than ever, thanks to suspension revisions and the introduction of four-wheel steer. Specifically, body movements should be better lashed down thanks to ‘newly tuned adjustable damping’ and there’s said to be ‘a stiffer connection’, though to what it isn’t quite clear yet. As for the rear steer, the wheels on the back axle can steer up to 2.5 degrees, adding a bit of agility at low speed (as well as improving the turning circle to 10.6 metres) and stability at high speed, steering with the front wheels above 62mph rather than in the opposite direction. Mercedes believes the new C ‘responds more sportily to steering commands.’

You’ll note that a new estate has also joined the overhauled C-Class range, doing what the wagon often does and looking like the more desirable model of the two. The powertrain line up is carried over, boot space is 490 litres seats up (or 1,510 with them down), and an electric tailgate is standard. What of the 3 Series Touring? Exactly the same maximum boot space to the litre…

Plenty has changed for the C-Class, then, even if the look is evolutionary. (To be honest, looking immediately like a Mercedes that people know doesn’t sound like a bad approach at the moment, given the amount of new alternatives around. And the AMG GT.) It goes on sale in the UK tomorrow, priced from £46,995 on the road. Which, of course, opens up plenty of options as far as the old car is concerned. Including the AMGs: the C43, which was actually a really nice car, is from £40k, and the infamous C63 has now dropped below £60k

Mathias Geisen, Mercedes Board Member for Sales and Customer Experience, said: “The new C?Class proves that continuity and innovation are not mutually exclusive. With its sporty elegance, electrified high-tech powertrains and intelligent support powered by MB.OS, it delivers what drivers truly need: proven reliability and innovative technology that creates real added value in everyday life. In this way, a familiar classic becomes a modern companion.”


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EV8

Original Poster:

572 posts

31 months

Yesterday (21:00)
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Latest? Probably last...

skylarking808

1,178 posts

114 months

Yesterday (21:15)
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Funny how raising the bonnet height on modern cars for safety ruins any aesthetics.

Always rated a c class for everyday transport. I would take a slightly older one without all the AI bobbins.

Triumph Man

9,566 posts

196 months

Yesterday (21:35)
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skylarking808 said:
Funny how raising the bonnet height on modern cars for safety ruins any aesthetics.

Always rated a c class for everyday transport. I would take a slightly older one without all the AI bobbins.
My wife had, until recently, a W204 (or more accurately an S204) facelift, and it was a perfectly competent car. In fact if I was told to choose between a 320d and her 220 cdi - I'd take the keys to the Mercedes.

plfrench

4,723 posts

296 months

Yesterday (21:45)
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Surely they’re not actually bothering to bring the Diesel variants to the UK market?! That would be a bizarre choice!

What Car say they’re dropping the Diesels which would bring them into line with the 3 series as that’s not had Diesels for a couple of years now.

B10

1,375 posts

295 months

Yesterday (21:55)
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Exterior OK. Interior an absolute mess. Incoherent and tacky.

Clad-Hach

681 posts

16 months

Yesterday (21:55)
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The estate looks great...sad no diesels though as they were a mainstay of Mercedes cars over the years.

I've always fancied a C-class 300d coupe but just couldn't justify one for pottering around going to the shops and mulling about.


Clivey

5,679 posts

232 months

I actually think the nose makes this look older than the car it's replacing! Still, it's far better proportioned than the dumpy, ungainly electric version.

What it really needs is the 6-cylinder from the CLE450 to make it feel like a luxury product and at the top end, a proper V8 C63 AMG model to right the wrongs of the previous gen plug-in nonsense. Otherwise, the BMW M340i (or forthcoming M350i) and M3 are going to overshadow it again.

Mr Tidy

31,008 posts

155 months

To me it just looks like another blobby Mercedes that has melted in the sun!

And I hate those Chrome surrounds for the exhausts that are just hiding a couple of round tailpipes.

I much preferred my first generation 1994 C280 Sport, even if it wasn't nearly as well built as my 190e.


Angelo1985

774 posts

54 months

Can I option it without the AI software and the internet connection? No? No thanks.

GTEYE

2,454 posts

238 months

That’s a whole lot of words to explain a new physical button on the steering wheel.

The rest of it sounds like marketing tosh. At the current pace of change the AI stuff will be obsolete in months, it’s probably best left out of cars. As we all know, the tech will move on and in a few short years they won’t support it.

biggbn

32,290 posts

248 months

I'm not sure how Mercedes manage to make each new model look like a caricature of the old one drawn by a Parisienne street artist after a three day binge.

kambites

71,322 posts

249 months

By modern standards I think it's a pretty good effort, in exterior styling terms.

The interior is... well it's a modern Mercedes. Whether that's a good or a bad thing is, I suppose, a matter of personal preference. I like the colour scheme of the one in the article and I don't hate the layout, but the carbon fibre looks awful and why oh why would you break the HVAC controls out from the main screen but, by the looks of it, leave them touch-sensitive rather than tactile?

fantheman80

2,556 posts

77 months

B10 said:
Interior an absolute mess. Incoherent and tacky.
Yep, like a booth at Spearmint Rhino

yme402

643 posts

130 months

Mercedes leaning far too heavily on the badge and what it represented 30 years ago for impeccable quality. Today they are cheap, tacky and no better engineered than a Kia or dare I say it, a BYD.
With Renault engines and interiors that look like a Russian vodka bar, they are simply cars for the gullible.

mrnoisy78

241 posts

221 months

Dear oh dear, now we can add Mercedes to the pile of German manufacturers who seem to have forgotten how to make a good looking car.
Still seems that the tens to the late teens was peak Audi BMW and Mercedes, everything since looks like a cheap Chinese copy with acres more plastic plastered all over the grill and the interior instead of quality materials, yet the Price tag isn t lowering to reflect the obvious drop in quality. Not really all that surprising that they re no longer selling as many..

Motormouth88

778 posts

88 months

The front end design genuinely looks like it’s from 2012

Bluehorseshoe

132 posts

3 months

Looks ok an if the lease deals are good they will sell. That is really where we are with cars now.

loudlashadjuster

6,363 posts

212 months

Gaudy crap.

I'm still waiting for Mercedes-Benz to have its 'Neue Klasse' moment and realise that there is no point in trying to out-tacky the Chinese and the thing that built the bedrock of the reputation that they still dine out on is those subtle and confident Sacco designs from the 1980s.

That's their heritage, and heritage is the only thing that they have against an onslaught of cheaper cars from China which are just a badge swap from being pretty much indistinguishable from Mercedes' current line-up.

Edited by loudlashadjuster on Tuesday 18th August 07:59

Geoff-Griff500

119 posts

57 months

More and more electronics which most people will try and switch off and another massive screen.
No reason I can see to trade up any time soon.

TheGinger1

88 posts

92 months

Could they not do cheaper versions where you don't have the 'AI' rubbish?
It's supposed to be a car, not a trumped up mobile phone!