RE: Jaguar's last great four-door for sale 
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The new all-electric Type 01 is nearly upon us - the old XFR is a reminder of when it last broke the mould


Not long now. Not long till October rolls around and Jaguar, with its heart in its mouth and hopefully without egg on its face, launches the new Type 01. The journey, you’ll hardly need reminding, has been not just a long one (we first saw the concept nearly two years ago) but also about as fraught as it’s possible to imagine. Much of this anxiousness is of the manufacturer’s own making, even if some of the reactions to its initial unveiling now seem even more overblown than they did at the time. Still, it is all now grist to the mill. Jaguar will not want for eyeballs in New York. 

Impossible, really, to compare the fanfare to anything it has done before because in previous years there was no giant tinderbox of public opinion to ignite. Or not at the bewildering, near-instantaneous scale there is now. Plenty of Jaguar’s cars are justly famous, but generally mean something to a much smaller crowd - i.e. those of us who like to visit ancient car forums to discuss them. That the Type 00 rivalled the likes of the Tesla Cybertruck for front page/viral presence says all you need to know about its impact on 2024. 

Of course, in the aftermath of this tidal wave, Jaguar could at least console itself with the idea that its wider rebrand - always destined to suffer detractors - was definitely not going unnoticed. True, the firm’s old-school tie did not need ripping off like an unwanted band-aid (a stunning miscalculation), yet at the same time, it could hardly be blamed for thinking something wildly different was required. Too frequently in the past, Jaguar was guilty of flying under the radar. 

The XFR is a case in point. Building a performance-oriented version of its crucial mid-sized exec made perfect sense - and in the then-new 5.0-litre supercharged V8, Jaguar had the ideal means to achieve it - but to look at, the flagship was as understated as Queen Elizabeth’s wellies. For those of us partial to such things, this velvet-glove-over-iron-fist approach was tremendously welcome; to everyone else used to the more shouty Germanic way of doing more than 500hp, it did not automatically appeal. 

This was a shame not just because it helped convince Jaguar that there was no point in repeating its efforts with the XE, but because the XFR’s failure to sell in greater numbers became emblematic of a wider failing: i.e. yet another model that enjoyed much critical praise, but still didn’t resonate with sufficient customers for it to be considered a success. Little wonder that in time this came to seem like the writing on the wall, ultimately sending Jaguar down a path that resulted in a four-door EV with twice the power - and ten times the look-at-me attitude. 

Time will tell if the new combination succeeds where the old one failed. But we do know for sure that after nearly two decades, a good example of the old XFR offers terrific value for money. This one, with around 80k on the clock, one previous owner and the subject of a far-reaching £8k service just last year, appears to be just that. Yes, because it looks great and sounds better and goes like the clappers (while being very composed and comfy), but also because it will cost you no more than £10,995. What better - and cheaper - way to say farewell to Jaguar’s fabled yesteryear?


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Original Poster:

209 posts

88 months

A neighbour had one of these and I used to love hearing him start it up in the morning (he also had a V Twin Buell which was even noisier). Top bloke.

el romeral

2,098 posts

165 months

Appears to be a whole lot of car for 11 grand. I was expecting it to be more expensive, I must say. Looks amazing.

pb8g09

3,189 posts

97 months

Can’t help feel if Jags were that good they wouldn’t have the company issues they do…

But the idea of an 8 cylinder Jag still appeals to me….

GeniusOfLove

5,722 posts

40 months

That engine is so much fun, the instant throttle response compared to even the best turbocharged big power engines is quite something. The XJ with this engine is a much better car but it is an absolute leviathan in size, and they're much rarer.

They've proven to be tough and capable of big miles, probably the least needy >500bhp European cars you can get?

craigjm

21,310 posts

228 months

the old XFR is a reminder of when it last broke the mould?

erm..... surely the x351 XJ, and its R version broke the mould after the XF which came before the XJ. The XF was only really a reskin of a pastiche of the 60s S-type rather than a complete smash of a 40 year tradition that the XJ was.

Still, XFR is a great car, looks so much better in facelift form


Ray_Aber

893 posts

304 months

Wonderful. Not my chosen colour scheme, but I'd have this over an E60 M5 every day of the week.

disco666

657 posts

174 months

Great car, shame about the styling.
That said, if they had done an estate, there would be one on my drive.

Nickp82

3,920 posts

121 months

I had one for a short while and yearn for another, great car. Need an estate though so no good

craigjm

21,310 posts

228 months

Nickp82 said:
I had one for a short while and yearn for another, great car. Need an estate though so no good
XFR-S Sportbrake?

njw1

2,758 posts

139 months

craigjm said:
the old XFR is a reminder of when it last broke the mould?

erm..... surely the x351 XJ, and its R version broke the mould after the XF which came before the XJ. The XF was only really a reskin of a pastiche of the 60s S-type rather than a complete smash of a 40 year tradition that the XJ was.

Still, XFR is a great car, looks so much better in facelift form
No mention of the SV8 either? And if you think an XFR is good value the SV8 can be had for half as much yet still has over 400bhp.

And by chance I may have one for sale... smile

ChrisCh86

1,122 posts

72 months

That's a bargain. Sounds like a lot of work has been done already, but even if the supercharger needs servicing the overall car cost is low enough that it doesn't matter.

And they did do an estate, it's just very rare (the XF R-S Sportbrake). I have one.

R4EVS

286 posts

66 months

First thing I did was check the MOT history for evidence of rear subframe rot (been there, done that).

Surprisingly none mentioned, but even at this price I'd be underneath having a good look to be sure.

AC43

13,564 posts

236 months

Fabulous. Until recently my neighbour had one of these and an XK100 XKR. Fantastic cold start soundtracks.

I particularly liked the fact that the XFR wasn't particularly shouty to look at. Although it did have a LOT of "Supercharged" scripts dotted about the place. But almost none of the in-your-face vulgarity that seems to be increasingly the norm these days.

I've often been tempted to move away from Mercs into one of these or an SV8. Or an X150 for that matter.

The only minor issue I came up against when looking at the XK's was the relative effort and expense needed to retrofit Carplay/Android auto as you can't just piggy back something into the Aux channel.

biggbn

32,366 posts

248 months

Awful dull looking car, could be anygenericsaloon.com, really never liked these or the XE...

R4EVS

286 posts

66 months

AC43 said:
The only minor issue I came up against when looking at the XK's was the relative effort and expense needed to retrofit Carplay/Android auto as you can't just piggy back something into the Aux channel.
Been there and done that too on a pre-facelift XF, which required the screen to be dismantled to add a video injector board as well as most of the dashboard and centre console trim as well as the front passenger seat to come out.

It is a fair bit easier on these facelift models with the Bosch rather than Denso audio systems, although the add-on box has been known to kill the OEM sat nav hard disk.

911Spanker

3,557 posts

44 months

£8k for a service?

nismo48

6,869 posts

235 months

That's terrific bang for buck these days.

CABC

6,274 posts

129 months

Had one of these for a week. Very enjoyable. Fantastic engine and my only complaint was that the throttle map was too front loaded. Everything happened in the first 2” of pedal travel. It’s a superb engine that would suit TVR’s philosophy very well - use the entire pedal travel to open the TBs. That’s one aspect that makes TVRs driver’s cars.

Keith-9fc7j

175 posts

9 months

Maybe its part of the appeal but this just looks like £2/3k old man Jag. An £8k service on an £11k car is mental. Shouldve ran it till it died and scrapped it.

dvinell

143 posts

139 months


What I never understood is why they dropped the V8 from the facelift XF.
It already fitted under the bonnet, and the engine continued to be used in other cars: F-Type, and Defender until only very recently.

Not everyone buying an mid-range executive car wants a four-pot.