RE: Want a manual Ferrari? Can't beat the real thing
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Want a manual Ferrari? Can't beat the real thing

Ferrari is getting back in the manual gearbox game - F430 prices prove the used market has beaten it there...


Maybe the notion of a Ferrari F430 being offered at £300,000 is startling. Actually, scratch that - we’re all startled by the £300k F430. Yes, it’s manual and yes, it’s supremely low-mileage, but if £300,000 was reserved for the very best Scuderias then you weren’t alone. And wait until you see what they’ve reached...

But we’ve been heading this way for a while. Look at the recent product launches from Ferrari. Stuff like the Manuale, the Purosangue, the Speciale as fast as a LaFerrari and then the one that shan’t be named. Nothing, really, close to resembling a fairly simple, uncomplicated V8 sports car with three pedals and six speeds. Twenty years before this F430, that sort of Ferrari existed; there were decades of them, from 308 onwards, and they were very popular. Twenty years after the F430 and there’s nothing like it in the range. The 296 is ostensibly the junior berlinetta, but it also has more than 800hp, a turbo hybrid V6 and a DCT. It’s a very different experience. 

And people want what they can’t have, so of course the demand is there for the manual Ferraris that were eschewed in the past for F1 autos. What were people thinking? With the (even rarer) 599s and Californias commanding megabucks for a while now, it was only a matter of time before the mid-engined V8 followed. Bravo to whoever snagged one at less than £100,000 pre-Covid… 

This particular 430 ticks all the possible collectable boxes (and probably a few more besides). This was the last time Ferrari offered a manual with the V8 behind the driver, before the 430 was replaced by the (admittedly brilliant) dual-clutch 458 Italia. So it has historical significance in its favour. It seems the right sort of age, too; if this was the Ferrari supercar of your youth, that was 20 years ago now. Should things have turned out (very) well, you’re probably at the right sort of age to finally get that dream car. Same thing is happening with 360 Challenge Stradales at the moment, too. 

A 430 is also the right sort of fast, too, if that makes sense. 500hp will always ensure a healthy level of performance, but without turbo torque (or any kind of automated gearbox) it’s going to need working at. You won’t accidentally be going too briskly in a Ferrari F430, which can most certainly happen in later cars, and every single gear will be an event while click-clacking through the gate. Yet despite the driver-focused spec (check out the carbon seats), this is yet to break 5,000 miles. There was a period off the road during the 2010s, and it was only in this decade that it did more than 1,000 miles between MOTs. The word isn’t ‘pampered’ so much as ‘protected’, so it really is as close to a new one as you’re likely to find in 2026. And how much cooler do Ferraris look when they aren’t red? 

So that’s a very low mileage, very rare, very significant manual Ferrari being sold as an approved used prospect - that’s bingo alright. There’s one other for sale on PH at £250k, so this is what the market has decided manuals are worth. Maybe now’s the time to manual swap an F1, given they’re less than half the money. But if originality is key (and it tends to be where Ferraris are concerned), then there won’t be any better. Now someone get out there and drive the damn thing - nothing about the future would suggest it’s going to be worth much less any time soon. 


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McRors

Original Poster:

460 posts

86 months

It’s not as pretty as the later 458 Italia and probably not as fast or as good to drive either (didn’t Clarkson take the Micky out of James May for buying one just before the 458 was released) but of all modern Ferraris, this is the one I’d like to drive the most: small, light, manual, naturally aspirated, what more do you want?

Baddie

806 posts

247 months

The value surely has something to do with no capital gains tax on cars, at least in part. If you’ve got it, this is a safe place to put it, meaning also it gets driven less and less.

Dombilano

1,447 posts

85 months

McRors said:
It s not as pretty as the later 458 Italia and probably not as fast or as good to drive either (didn t Clarkson take the Micky out of James May for buying one just before the 458 was released) but of all modern Ferraris, this is the one I d like to drive the most: small, light, manual, naturally aspirated, what more do you want?
Torque, and £150k change

Steveawm

15 posts

182 months

A 430 Scuderia.

Twinair

1,034 posts

172 months

My best pal has 2 - both manuals

Long term owner mind you 15 plus years…

Big payday on the horizon - chapeau…!

CH80

434 posts

27 months

Very nice example. Valuation is too high though.

Robertb

3,858 posts

268 months

Ferrari market has suddenly gone nuts. F355s now up for over £200k, 360 manuals like hens teeth when £60k would get a nice one not too long ago.

There’s a nice test of a 430 vs a Ford GT in this months classic and sport car mag.

jonsp

1,782 posts

186 months

Baddie said:
The value surely has something to do with no capital gains tax on cars, at least in part. If you ve got it, this is a safe place to put it, meaning also it gets driven less and less.
It would be interesting to ask a high end dealer what % of their customers are actually interested in the cars and what % are buying for the reason you suggest - obviously with no intention of driving it.

Water Fairy

6,606 posts

185 months

Strong money indeed, especially as it's in the most boring colour combo possible, especially for a fezza.

Other than that I'd like it please. Having driven an F1 I can imagine the joy with this quite easily.

Jurdy

313 posts

314 months

Yes the market has gone mad. Interest rates still sort of low, better than a pension, no fees and no CGT...try buying any manual Ferrari and your into big money... and it's all happened very quickly and I reckon these cars are just being squirreled away. Even a 458 in red is a commodity..and they built something like 10,000 of those. Bubble or boom, time will tell..

Jurdy

313 posts

314 months

Yes the market has gone mad. Interest rates still sort of low, better than a pension, no fees and no CGT...try buying any manual Ferrari and your into big money... and it's all happened very quickly and I reckon these cars are just being squirreled away. Even a 458 in red is a commodity..and they built something like 10,000 of those. Bubble or boom, time will tell..

Augustus Windsock

3,795 posts

185 months

Might be interesting to revisit this car in 12 and 24 months time to see how the market values them then
Will purchasers catch a cold, or sit with a reflective self-satisfied smile?
Too many cars recently have seen a big uplift in ‘values’ and the market is seeing them fall back (Jaguar E-types and more than a few fast Fords come to mind).
I’d love a manual F430 but that would just because it’s what others seek at present making resale easier, the reality is I’m just over 60, have a terrible lower back condition and so an auto would be better.. for me.
And a personal preference, the colour combination on this one is meh, my ideal would be Blu TdF with a nice tan interior

stuart100

1,173 posts

87 months

McRors said:
It s not as pretty as the later 458 Italia and probably not as fast or as good to drive either (didn t Clarkson take the Micky out of James May for buying one just before the 458 was released) but of all modern Ferraris, this is the one I d like to drive the most: small, light, manual, naturally aspirated, what more do you want?
TG and the GT was scripted. I’m not sure anyone knows Clarkson’s view. I think the F430 is a nicer design than the 458 too.

Babw

1,059 posts

176 months

Having driven both, the F1 suits the car and the engine really well, the manual seems like an after thought. These valuation are ridiculous, good luck to those playing this game.

T1berious

2,672 posts

185 months

Think you need quite the crystal ball to see if this is peak price or there's still a bit of climbing to go.

300k is a lot of cash to see drop 50% if the bubble does burst.

Time will tell. Anyway, this car is never in a million years being driving. It might be driven on to the trailer and into the dealership for the annual service but that's pretty much it.

Less car more commodity.

M138

1,275 posts

21 months

Going back many years ago from my Triumph Stag days the rarer manual o/d was always more desirable. If I was luckily in the market for a new Ferrari 430 I would've stuck to my guns and ordered a manual version. They were rarer, cheaper (I think) , less problematic further down the line and probably wouldn't get through clutches like the paddle shift.
Before anyone criticises me, I would still love a Ferrari 430 with the paddle shift but if I had the money at the time I could only see the manual version commanding a lot more money in years to come. Just a shame I never had the money.

OwenW4

21 posts

270 months

I suspect there is quite a different between asking prices and actual sale prices.

Johnspex

5,255 posts

214 months

stuart100 said:
McRors said:
It s not as pretty as the later 458 Italia and probably not as fast or as good to drive either (didn t Clarkson take the Micky out of James May for buying one just before the 458 was released) but of all modern Ferraris, this is the one I d like to drive the most: small, light, manual, naturally aspirated, what more do you want?
TG and the GT was scripted. I m not sure anyone knows Clarkson s view. I think the F430 is a nicer design than the 458 too.
Andy Wilman says every word that came out of their mouths was their own. All the experts on here say that scripted doesn’t mean they were told what to say, merely that stunts and incidents were planned.

BigChiefmuffinAgain

1,745 posts

128 months

The market for these is all over the place mainly following the Mecum auction back in Jan where out of nowhere two 360 Challenges sold for well over $1m each. To me, this felt a bit like a pump and dump as used in the art market for years where dealers would agree to buy up each others stock in a selected artist to give the appearance that they were the next big thing.... The issue about CGT on cars is not exactly new news to anyone....

nismo48

7,072 posts

237 months

stuart100 said:
McRors said:
It s not as pretty as the later 458 Italia and probably not as fast or as good to drive either (didn t Clarkson take the Micky out of James May for buying one just before the 458 was released) but of all modern Ferraris, this is the one I d like to drive the most: small, light, manual, naturally aspirated, what more do you want?
TG and the GT was scripted. I m not sure anyone knows Clarkson s view. I think the F430 is a nicer design than the 458 too.
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