RE: Renault 19 16v | Spotted
RE: Renault 19 16v | Spotted
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Renault 19 16v | Spotted

Craving a retro hot hatch on a budget? Don't forget there was a Renault other than the Clio... 


That’s right, the fascination with all things fast and French hasn’t abated yet. And here’s something potentially just as rare as a Citroen CX Turbo: the Renault 19 16v. Credit where it’s due to the French, they do love to make a hot hatch out of an unlikely base: all manner of plain family cars over the decades, from Visa to Xsara, have been given racy makeovers. The 19 was certainly one of those, a very ordinary base that became something of a cult hero - yet one often forgotten in the Renault back catalogue.

There are several reasons for that. The first is its fairly staid appearance, even by the standards of '90s hatches (and four-door saloons); the Clio 16v that existed alongside was a much prettier, sportier, more modern-looking thing. With similar amounts of power from the 1.8, too, you’d have really had to want the 19’s extra space to go for it over the smaller car. That Renault abandoned the Golf-sized hot hatch for a while after the 19 can’t have helped the reputation, either: while the Megane arrived in the mid-'90s, it wasn’t until the 21st century that a Renaultsport launched.

That said, there was plenty to like about the 19. That 16-valve engine was gutsy, the handling deft and the seats were supportive - you can always rely on French pocket rockets for excellent chairs. But electrics were problematic, the build quality not amazing even by the standards of the era, and rust became an issue as well. It’s little wonder that few made it far into the 21st century, even with sturdy mechanicals. Car Magazine said 35 years ago: ‘Quality is not a word you’d readily associate with the Renault’s interior. Many of the plastics are low grade, it rattles like a creche, and the fabric used to upholster the seats looks like the cheap covers sold in car accessory shops.’ Yikes.

This one, then, is a real find. It must be one of the last, a 1995 five-door kitted out with a leather interior. While most tend to prefer the look of a pre-facelift 19, we’re very much at the beggars and choosers stage of this old Renault’s life - you take what you can get. Any of the 16-valves left are going to offer an authentic retro hatch experience. 

There are fewer than 70,000 miles on this one, which would explain why it presents so nicely inside and out. But even this one had been plagued by rot, with wings and sills requiring recent attention. The ad mentions some additional new parts, too, including alternator, starter motor and cambelt. It looks good to go, though plenty of used cars have flattered to deceive. See what a new MOT throws up and proceed from there. 

Let’s be optimistic and assume it passes with flying colours: what a cool way to spend £7,995 this would be. As 5s, Clios and Meganes of all eras soar in value - and are fairly common sights by modern classic standards - so the seemingly spotless 19 at less than £10k looks all the more appealing. Not being a hero car of the era has never been such a selling point. Get some yellow film for the foglights and away you go…


SPECIFICATION | RENAULT 19 16V

Engine: 1,764cc four-cylinder
Transmission: 5-speed manual, front-wheel drive
Power (hp): 137@6,500rpm
Torque (lb ft): 117@4,250rpm
MPG: 36.7
CO2: na
Year registered: 1995
Recorded mileage: 67,800
Price new: c. £13k
Yours for: £7,995

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GreatScott2016

Original Poster:

2,556 posts

118 months

Yesterday (15:15)
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Gosh, I thought these were great back in the day, nice to see smile. I recall a boss of mine had a new red / burgundy one, and I was totally jealous! smile

Every day a journey

3,176 posts

68 months

Yesterday (15:18)
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My Aunt had the convertible version in the proper dark blue.

Was stolen.

Terminator X

20,823 posts

234 months

Yesterday (15:18)
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Ah this has taken me right back. Loved the 16v 19's especially in this colour.

TX.

Every day a journey

3,176 posts

68 months

Yesterday (15:21)
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And this one spotted in its home nation back in June this year


Kawasicki

14,404 posts

265 months

Yesterday (15:21)
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I also liked them back in the day. I though the design was neat and modern… and it remains neat, at least.

geeks

11,758 posts

169 months

Yesterday (15:21)
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Always liked these and mentioned them in one of the French retro articles recently, someone I knew had a white one and it was superb and make a great noise. Well done of the current owner documenting the resto as well, shame I wont get it past the purchasing committee at home otherwise I would be going for a nose around it

Stu R

21,663 posts

245 months

Yesterday (15:21)
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Every day a journey said:
My Aunt had the convertible version in the proper dark blue.

Was stolen.
Scumbags, is there nothing they won't take? I hope you get your aunt back soon.

Malcolm E Boo

292 posts

102 months

Yesterday (15:22)
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I had a red MK1 3 door hatch and a grey MK2 four door saloon.
Both a lot of run to drive but fragile interiors and not the first word in reliability.

Berkut666

70 posts

186 months

Yesterday (15:22)
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I have owned 2 of these in my life time. Both 3 dr, both cloth seats. First one was red, owned it in about 1998/1998. Used it to commute daily (approx 100 miles) and I adored it. It had some tasty engine mods and was slightly lowered but apart from that it looked standard. The perfect all rounder for a single man.

The second was in the early 00's. Williams blue. Only engine mods were a filter and exhaust. It was low, body kit, big wheels. Only reason I got rid of it was I changed to a job where I needed a newer car as it came with a car allowance. Swapped out for a MG ZS 180.

Loved both the 19's and have always hankered after another but scared that the rose tinted glasses of time are playing too big a part in it. That said, I wonder if they would do me a good deal on my old Vectra GSI that's hidden away in the garage.

In case you hadn't worked it out I have a thing for performance saloons! Never owned a 2 seater, always had bigger fun things. Even now in my, erm, older years I still shy away from them. Nothing against a sports car/2 seater, I just always preferred something I can have fun with and also use for mates/house moves/tip runs/dogs/kids etc etc. Currently daily is no different and carries that on.

BORNXenon

630 posts

14 months

Yesterday (15:27)
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My best mate bought a 19 Williams from an auction in the very late 90s/early noughties.
It died in the petrol station on the way home, it spent the next 6 months on his drive where he threw about £2k in bits at it and ended up getting rid having never driven it further than a couple of miles!

STe_rsv4

1,276 posts

128 months

Yesterday (15:28)
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I owned a red H reg 16v "chamade" around 25 year ago, bought from a dodgy looking geezer in Blyth for £450. Turns out he actually was pretty dodgy as on the drive home it started spewing out great clouds of smoke when I put my foot down due to the piston rings being fried. Rebuilt the engine, then noticed that if I parked uphill, the spark plugs holes in the manifold would fill up with water from rain entering the bonnet scoop. having fixed this, I then found a multitude of other faults before I ended up crashing the rear end into a wall on an icy hill before getting rid. Shame as it was a lovely car when it worked

Watcher of the skies

1,356 posts

67 months

Yesterday (15:33)
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Maybe it's just me, but I thought that they were flimsy boxy things - I can't understand why anyone would choose one over the vastly superior Rover R8.

soad

34,697 posts

206 months

Yesterday (15:34)
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I want to like it, but seems expensive (what isn’t these days)?

Had a white one in our household (around the year 2000), it didn’t last long.

otolith

69,314 posts

234 months

Yesterday (15:40)
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I seem to remember Russell Bulgin likening the seats to sitting in Dolly Parton's bra.

mjspencer348

490 posts

5 months

Yesterday (15:42)
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My mother owned a 1990 pre-facelift 3dr in this blue with black leather, the best spec, IMO. It went well, particularly at the top end.. she traded it in after three years for a Clio 1.4 for the cheaper insurance. frown

Kawasaki2000

260 posts

21 months

Yesterday (15:42)
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If you are going to go obscure Renault back catalogue, do it properly and go for the 11 Turbo.

If I had the 6 numbers come up I'd be tempted to get the 5, 11, 19, original clio 16v etc and Tolman them.

Geoffcapes

1,315 posts

194 months

Yesterday (15:53)
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Brilliant cars. Have always lusted after these, looked at a few over the years, and boy do they rust!

3 door was much cooler than the 5.

ShahGQV

29 posts

91 months

Yesterday (16:01)
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My wife had a Renault 19 16v. Amazing handling and so much fun to drive. She still talks about the great memories. Not the most reliable!

cw200

54 posts

179 months

Yesterday (16:03)
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Owned a '95 1.4RT as my first car. Hand me down from my parents and loved it. Drove so well for a normal hatchback, tolerated a lot of typical 17yo driving by me too. As others have said, it was a super comfy car to bomb about it. Being 90s French it obviously had some foibles but it saw me to Germany and back several times so will never begrudge it some maintenance.

Turbobanana

8,492 posts

231 months

Yesterday (16:11)
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These were a fine car back in the day. Contrary to what you may have heard, they were actually probably more rust resistant than much of the competition. Electrics were not the problem the article alludes to and the build quality was in line with Peugeot and Citroen offerings, better than Ford or Rover although probably not up to VW standards.

How do I know? I sold Renaults just as the Megane was replacing the 19, so we had a lot in as part exchanges. When I left the dealership I bought a 1993 19 RT 1.9td that had come in. One owner, 73,000 miles and a full history. I put 20,000 miles on it in 12 months before selling it to my brother-in-law. He subsequently put another 100,000 miles on it before it was written off when some numpty drove into him. It never let either of us down once.

This one is the whizz fandango Executive model, which had the leather as standard. The number plate is entirely appropriate, although nobody will get it.

I can neither confirm nor deny that a Renault 19 will take your girlfriend and 3 uni housemates, plus all their baggage, on a two week holiday to the south of France in 1998 in moderate comfort while you're claiming to be doing an early version of "working from home".