RE: SRT Concept heralds return of Jeep Scrambler V8
RE: SRT Concept heralds return of Jeep Scrambler V8
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SRT Concept heralds return of Jeep Scrambler V8

Off-road icons always make for good SEMA show cars - but this one looks as production-ready as they come...


Heritage is all the rage when it comes to 4x4s right now. Look at the popularity of Toyota’s retro-themed Land Cruisers, the stampede that was folks trying to get a Suzuki Jimny, and the fact that every new Mercedes G-Class looks just like the old one. Because people love the appearance.

The Jeep Wrangler is definitely another off-roader with a design that leans heavily into its history; even people who don’t know cars will know it’s a Jeep, because the influence of the Willys can still be seen in a new car. Now Jeep is going one step further with the old school theme by resurrecting the Scrambler name for a SEMA concept. Originally made in the '80s (it went off sale 40 years ago this year), the Scrambler was a long wheelbase CJ-7 with a removable half cab - the ideal ranch wagon, as President Reagan would have told you. So it’s more of the same this time around with the remake, everything from the A-pillar back is new for the Wrangler SRT Concept: longer doors, integrated bed, new tailgate, the roll cage and more. Like so much from the '80s that’s reimagined for today, the inspiration is clear - while also being significantly beefed up as well. 

See this Scrambler isn’t so much one for the ranch as one for the Baja 1000. Those dramatic arch flares contain beadlock wheels, oversized off-road tyres and a rear axle said to be modelled on those used in trophy trucks. The ones that do huge jumps multiple times a lap. If anything, though, it’s the front axle that’s of more interest in the Scrambler, because it features independent front suspension - a first for the Wrangler. Yes, really. 

All the benefits we’re used to hearing about when upgrading to independent suspension (usually it was hot hatches swapping out a rear torsion beam) are mentioned for the Scrambler: wheel control and stability, plus here precision on the steering axle, all the useful stuff for driving off-road at preposterous speed. Which you’d have to assume this Jeep is capable of, given there’s SRT in the name and a Gladiator-grade front end. 

That level of engineering isn’t the sort of thing an OEM would go to just for a concept car, either. If it were previewing a design language refresh or something like that, there’d be no need to invest in what showgoers won’t see. Plus Stellantis included the Wrangler Scrambler name (albeit under wraps) in a preview of the 2030s Jeep lineup back in the spring, so there's a good reason its ‘Punk’n Orange’ paint, SRT details and rear-facing seats don't look far from showroom-ready. Even the ‘Scrambler’ graphics are all set… 

Tim Kuniskis, head of SRT Performance (among other things), said: “The Wrangler Scrambler SRT Concept combines everything enthusiasts love about Jeep vehicles: capability, open-air freedom and authenticity, with the power, control and relentless performance mindset that define SRT. It is overbuilt and engineered around the idea that the desert can be every bit as demanding as a racetrack. It is unapologetic by design.” Truck yeah, indeed. The perfect thing for a Jeep Easter Safari, perhaps. Whatever the case, the Scrambler is back - and with a V8 already confirmed under the hood, its status as the 'ultimate open-air desert weapon' is almost certain to have Jeep fans clamouring for the real thing in short order. 


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scrapped

Original Poster:

145 posts

52 months

MAGA land's pivot away from electric is politically expedient and may earn some cash in the short term... but the politics look shaky already, and longer term Detroit will get buried by the global car industry.

Enthusiasts aside, for all sorts of reasons EVs just make sense. Fuel security, running costs, reliability, refinement, packaging... in bumper-to-bumper traffic, doing the school run, shopping, commuting, who cares about V8s and Baja-grade suspension.

So, yes, this Jeep looks fun, but it's emblematic of an industry that has been swayed by an angry old fat man into acting against it's own long term interest. I fear for Stellantis in particular and the wider industry in general.

StuntmanMike

15,319 posts

182 months

scrapped said:
MAGA land's pivot away from electric is politically expedient and may earn some cash in the short term... but the politics look shaky already, and longer term Detroit will get buried by the global car industry.

Enthusiasts aside, for all sorts of reasons EVs just make sense. Fuel security, running costs, reliability, refinement, packaging... in bumper-to-bumper traffic, doing the school run, shopping, commuting, who cares about V8s and Baja-grade suspension.

So, yes, this Jeep looks fun, but it's emblematic of an industry that has been swayed by an angry old fat man into acting against it's own long term interest. I fear for Stellantis in particular and the wider industry in general.
I think in twenty years time the world will be driving Chinese cars with the exception of a few niche products for the rich.

Ubi One Kenobi

1 posts

6 months

I believe that by equating biofuels with electric vehicles - in line with the current EU sentiment - EVs will disappear over the next 15 to 20 years. This is because a vehicle with an internal combustion engine (ICE) running on biofuel is far less polluting than an electric vehicle (taking in consideration the whole cycle) and also significantly lighter, which is characteristic that brings with it a host of further advantages.

hu8742

377 posts

156 months

As a Brit living in the US, I'd love to report back and say Stellantis and GMC (Detroit) are ready to pivot to more enviromentally friendly vehicles but I'm not so sure. Even with people whining about how crap the dealers are and reliability, few are willing to change a habit of a lifetime; namely it's just easier and more convenient to own a big ICE.

Even the 'wealthier classes' are just totally ignorant/indifferent to the environment and EVs go into the "too hard to understand" bucket. Tax incentives to own EVs are devisive but I can't think of way to nudge people's thinking. The only thing that matters is when it really starts to cost them and high fuel prices right now aren't really changing that becuase I still see soccer mom's in their massive SUVs leaving their engines running in the school car park whilst they wait for their kids.

So whilst i thought I'd never say this, part of me hopes that Chinese (or whoever can make decent ones) EVs flood the global market and everyone's mundane daily driver is an EV for the sake of the planet. Keep your V8's/sports cars as weekend toys.

RB Will

10,886 posts

271 months

Love it

Nobody13

834 posts

233 months

Glad it exists, especially if it annoys the EV loving eco mentalists.

MountainsofSussex

454 posts

217 months

Ubi One Kenobi said:
I believe that by equating biofuels with electric vehicles - in line with the current EU sentiment - EVs will disappear over the next 15 to 20 years. This is because a vehicle with an internal combustion engine (ICE) running on biofuel is far less polluting than an electric vehicle (taking in consideration the whole cycle) and also significantly lighter, which is characteristic that brings with it a host of further advantages.
I'm afraid you're significantly misinformed. Most crop-based biofuels are higher emission than fossil fuels, and there aren't enough waste biosolids to fuel cars, let alone the planes and ships that'll need them (even ignoring the vast amounts of fraud in the "waste" chain that means virgin palm oil being used). And before anyone says cobalt, most cheaper EVs plus eHGVs are LFP batteries, which are cobalt free.

9k rpm

620 posts

241 months

Wow what has pistonheads become.

They share an article about a very cool and fun V8 powered dune buggy and the first 4 comments are about EVs and biofuels. Sad times.

I came to say I’d love one and I hope they build them. Would be interesting to see if Land Rover could do something similar with the defender 90.

mac96

6,617 posts

174 months

9k rpm said:
Wow what has pistonheads become.

They share an article about a very cool and fun V8 powered dune buggy and the first 4 comments are about EVs and biofuels. Sad times.

I came to say I d love one and I hope they build them. Would be interesting to see if Land Rover could do something similar with the defender 90.
Exactly. This product is a fun vehicle for a niche within a niche and has nothing to do with the relative merits of fossil fuel, biofuel or EV for the mass market. Which is undoubtedly a more important topic, but not the only topic out there.

nismo48

7,217 posts

238 months

Its Mad, Bad but I'm really glad it exists

Demonix

841 posts

243 months

Given it's going to drink like George Best and Ollie Reed on a big night out the Scrambler is definitely one for markets with cheap fuel if there are any left ? 98 ron in UAE is currently.87p per litre so all good, not so much in UK . Cool jeep though!