Iveco Massif - Will it be better than the defender?
Discussion
http://www.massif.iveco.com/?lang=en
Anyone driven one? Apparently coming to Britain next year. The Dailly off-road van is pretty good, so expecting good things
Anyone driven one? Apparently coming to Britain next year. The Dailly off-road van is pretty good, so expecting good things
Will it be better than the Defender? I doubt it, it's a Series III Land Rover.
For many years Santana assembled Land Rovers under licence in Spain. They split with LR before LR replaced the Series III with the coil-sprung 90 and 110. Santana carried on building the Series III then Iveco bought them. The Massif is that Santana updated Series III with some modern engines and the cart springs that LR haven't used for 25 years.
People have tried importing Santanas here several times and failed because although a bit cheaper than a Defender, they are not cheap enough to justify buying an old Series LR with a new engine.
For many years Santana assembled Land Rovers under licence in Spain. They split with LR before LR replaced the Series III with the coil-sprung 90 and 110. Santana carried on building the Series III then Iveco bought them. The Massif is that Santana updated Series III with some modern engines and the cart springs that LR haven't used for 25 years.
People have tried importing Santanas here several times and failed because although a bit cheaper than a Defender, they are not cheap enough to justify buying an old Series LR with a new engine.
.BigLepton said:
Will it be better than the Defender? I doubt it, it's a Series III Land Rover.
For many years Santana assembled Land Rovers under licence in Spain. They split with LR before LR replaced the Series III with the coil-sprung 90 and 110. Santana carried on building the Series III then Iveco bought them. The Massif is that Santana updated Series III with some modern engines and the cart springs that LR haven't used for 25 years.
People have tried importing Santanas here several times and failed because although a bit cheaper than a Defender, they are not cheap enough to justify buying an old Series LR with a new engine.
I wander if some of the 'towing' brigade may be interested due to the power output. I imagine as workhorses they'd be good for towing compressors across fields?For many years Santana assembled Land Rovers under licence in Spain. They split with LR before LR replaced the Series III with the coil-sprung 90 and 110. Santana carried on building the Series III then Iveco bought them. The Massif is that Santana updated Series III with some modern engines and the cart springs that LR haven't used for 25 years.
People have tried importing Santanas here several times and failed because although a bit cheaper than a Defender, they are not cheap enough to justify buying an old Series LR with a new engine.
It's a rebrand of the Santana one which was developed from when they used to build Series 3 under licence, the Santana version was still on leaf springs and had steel panels and a fibreglass roof when I last saw one 2 years ago. The iveco engine (3 litre) is probably better than the transit one in the current defender and is more powerful (you can have 146 or 172 hp I have found), but IMO its pig ugly and it wont be any better on road than a Defender now, of road who knows.
MrVelox said:
I'm sure somebody is going to buy one, I mean, I have seen FSO Polonezs on the road so anything is possible.
But I doubt they'll sell well, why buy a Defender copy when the real thing is available? (And I envy Brits for that, we haven't had Defenders in the USA for over 10 years)
They definatly need to start importing Defenders into the U.S. again, I need the four door pick-up variant so that I can blend in with the rancher's and roughnecks 'round these parts, maybe if I ask real nice the new owners will build me a one-off dualie....But I doubt they'll sell well, why buy a Defender copy when the real thing is available? (And I envy Brits for that, we haven't had Defenders in the USA for over 10 years)
skip_1 said:
Symbolica said:
"Massif"??? Who the f
k will buy it, Ali G?
I'm assuming it's named after the continental terms for plateus?k will buy it, Ali G?
Massif as a geological term, like the 'Massif Central' for example.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massif
Good name for it actually.
Balmoral Green said:
skip_1 said:
Symbolica said:
"Massif"??? Who the fk will buy it, Ali G?
I'm assuming it's named after the continental terms for plateus?k will buy it, Ali G? Massif as a geological term, like the 'Massif Central' for example.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massif
Good name for it actually.
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