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this is an honest rant, not an attempt to get marks out of ten for how many times I can 
ing fking steating motherfker.
10pm I am driving home on a dual carriageway, central reservation, barriers on the side, nothing even close to a slip road.
Suddenly 300m behind are a fire-engine and two ambulances sirens on, moving at speed.
There is a supermarket a mile or two up the road, so all the cars put their foot down so we can get off the road before we get in the way of the emergency vehicles.
Well we would have got out of the way, if these two fking s had not insisted at doing 30mph (the speed limit on this road) next to eachother.
If they didn't feel comfortable moving at speed, they could have driven behind eachother letting everyone (including the emergency vehicles past)
I don't give a fk if they wanted to go fast or not, but they had some fking retarded 30mph snail race oblivious to everyone else moving at 50mph plus, and sirens blaring.
I really hope one of those drivers got home, found their house burnt down and their entire family dead, and were told "if only the ambulance had got there three minutes earlier we could have saved your family"
I saw one of the drivers as I pulled into the supermarket, stupid looking 45yr old woman, driving with the mixture of intense panic and total concentration on her face - I saw the same look on the face of the stupid woman who clipped my wing mirror, they look straight ahead, with the belief that if they just continue driving in the same way, all the problems around them will go away.
Seriously, women are slow minded fools - they are like ocean liners, once they start doing something they are unable to change course/speed and just hope that the ambulance, cyclist, ice-berg moves the fk out of the way.
ing fking steating motherfker.10pm I am driving home on a dual carriageway, central reservation, barriers on the side, nothing even close to a slip road.
Suddenly 300m behind are a fire-engine and two ambulances sirens on, moving at speed.
There is a supermarket a mile or two up the road, so all the cars put their foot down so we can get off the road before we get in the way of the emergency vehicles.
Well we would have got out of the way, if these two f
king s had not insisted at doing 30mph (the speed limit on this road) next to eachother.If they didn't feel comfortable moving at speed, they could have driven behind eachother letting everyone (including the emergency vehicles past)
I don't give a f
k if they wanted to go fast or not, but they had some fking retarded 30mph snail race oblivious to everyone else moving at 50mph plus, and sirens blaring.I really hope one of those drivers got home, found their house burnt down and their entire family dead, and were told "if only the ambulance had got there three minutes earlier we could have saved your family"
I saw one of the drivers as I pulled into the supermarket, stupid looking 45yr old woman, driving with the mixture of intense panic and total concentration on her face - I saw the same look on the face of the stupid woman who clipped my wing mirror, they look straight ahead, with the belief that if they just continue driving in the same way, all the problems around them will go away.
Seriously, women are slow minded fools - they are like ocean liners, once they start doing something they are unable to change course/speed and just hope that the ambulance, cyclist, ice-berg moves the f
k out of the way.lottie said:
horton said:
Seriously, women are slow minded fools - they are like ocean liners, once they start doing something they are unable to change course/speed and just hope that the ambulance, cyclist, ice-berg moves the fk out of the way.
And you are tarring us all with the same brush??!! k out of the way.That was scary to write but f
k-it I can only say it like I sees it.OT sort of
I'm just curious, if you get flashed by a speed camera speeding , and the reason was that it was due to the emg vehicles approaching from behind. What happens?
Assuming you forgot to get any reg details or anything?
Same with going through redlights and getting caught by a camera?
What are the rules about braking rules due to emg vehicles approaching or being behind you ?
Are you immune from m prosecution?
I'm just curious, if you get flashed by a speed camera speeding , and the reason was that it was due to the emg vehicles approaching from behind. What happens?
Assuming you forgot to get any reg details or anything?
Same with going through redlights and getting caught by a camera?
What are the rules about braking rules due to emg vehicles approaching or being behind you ?
Are you immune from m prosecution?
Nobody You Know said:
lottie said:
horton said:
Seriously, women are slow minded fools - they are like ocean liners, once they start doing something they are unable to change course/speed and just hope that the ambulance, cyclist, ice-berg moves the fk out of the way.
And you are tarring us all with the same brush??!! k out of the way.That was scary to write but f
k-it I can only say it like I sees it.I do agree that there are some terrible drivers out there but it's not just women!!
ipwn said:
OT sort of
I'm just curious, if you get flashed by a speed camera speeding , and the reason was that it was due to the emg vehicles approaching from behind. What happens?
Assuming you forgot to get any reg details or anything?
Same with going through redlights and getting caught by a camera?
What are the rules about braking rules due to emg vehicles approaching or being behind you ?
Are you immune from m prosecution?
Advice from B.I.B is not to slam on your brakes or speed up but to maintain a safe speed and move out of the way as carefully as possible-so as not to endanger other road users.I'm just curious, if you get flashed by a speed camera speeding , and the reason was that it was due to the emg vehicles approaching from behind. What happens?
Assuming you forgot to get any reg details or anything?
Same with going through redlights and getting caught by a camera?
What are the rules about braking rules due to emg vehicles approaching or being behind you ?
Are you immune from m prosecution?
lottie said:
horton said:
Seriously, women are slow minded fools - they are like ocean liners, once they start doing something they are unable to change course/speed and just hope that the ambulance, cyclist, ice-berg moves the fk out of the way.
And you are tarring us all with the same brush??!! k out of the way.But as sweeping generalisations go, based on my experience it is pretty accurate.
Men generally don't think enough before making decisions - Women make decisions very slowly and once they are made they don't change their plans.
Having said that I was following/racing a nice little bike down some windy roads, I was struggling to keep up, the bike stopped and she took her helmet off - but that was an exception.
ipwn said:
OT sort of
I'm just curious, if you get flashed by a speed camera speeding , and the reason was that it was due to the emg vehicles approaching from behind. What happens?
Assuming you forgot to get any reg details or anything?
Same with going through redlights and getting caught by a camera?
What are the rules about braking rules due to emg vehicles approaching or being behind you ?
Are you immune from m prosecution?
In UK, I have no idea.I'm just curious, if you get flashed by a speed camera speeding , and the reason was that it was due to the emg vehicles approaching from behind. What happens?
Assuming you forgot to get any reg details or anything?
Same with going through redlights and getting caught by a camera?
What are the rules about braking rules due to emg vehicles approaching or being behind you ?
Are you immune from m prosecution?
I am in Japan, I know that particular road has no speed cameras and my speed trap detector has GPS locations, picks up police radio bands in use, etc etc.
Having said that, if I didn't have space to pull over and I was holding up an emergency vehicle I would happily risk points/ban/fine in order to not hold the driver up - not that I wouldn't whine like a b
d on my day in court.ipwn said:
OT sort of
I'm just curious, if you get flashed by a speed camera speeding , and the reason was that it was due to the emg vehicles approaching from behind. What happens?
They'd be able to tell from the two photo's that it was the emergency vehicle that set the camera off. They then have justify why they were doing the speed they were doing.I'm just curious, if you get flashed by a speed camera speeding , and the reason was that it was due to the emg vehicles approaching from behind. What happens?
ipwn said:
OT sort of
Same with going through redlights and getting caught by a camera?
What are the rules about braking rules due to emg vehicles approaching or being behind you ?
Unfortunately this one is your problem. You never have any right to go through a red light unless otherwise directed, which doesn't include moving out of the way of an emergency vehicle. It's their job to negotiate the traffic, not yours to get out of their way. Sounds a bit harsh, especially if they were going to your house/relative, but that's the way it is.Same with going through redlights and getting caught by a camera?
What are the rules about braking rules due to emg vehicles approaching or being behind you ?
horton said:
Suddenly 300m behind are a fire-engine and two ambulances sirens on, moving at speed.
There is a supermarket a mile or two up the road, so all the cars put their foot down so we can get off the road before we get in the way of the emergency vehicles.
Why? There is a supermarket a mile or two up the road, so all the cars put their foot down so we can get off the road before we get in the way of the emergency vehicles.
Surely - if it's a 30mph dual carriageway, the EV's are 300m behind you and you have over a mile before your destination - you should just stay put? Accelerating will only make things more difficult for them, as you all proved when you lengthened the queue behind the other two cars.
Symbolica said:
horton said:
Suddenly 300m behind are a fire-engine and two ambulances sirens on, moving at speed.
There is a supermarket a mile or two up the road, so all the cars put their foot down so we can get off the road before we get in the way of the emergency vehicles.
Why? There is a supermarket a mile or two up the road, so all the cars put their foot down so we can get off the road before we get in the way of the emergency vehicles.
Surely - if it's a 30mph dual carriageway, the EV's are 300m behind you and you have over a mile before your destination - you should just stay put? Accelerating will only make things more difficult for them, as you all proved when you lengthened the queue behind the other two cars.
I was kinda irrelevant to the whole situation, no problem for me or caused by me - the problem was the two morons who decided to snail race with sirens blaring behind them.
Roo said:
Unfortunately this one is your problem. You never have any right to go through a red light unless otherwise directed, which doesn't include moving out of the way of an emergency vehicle. It's their job to negotiate the traffic, not yours to get out of their way. Sounds a bit harsh, especially if they were going to your house/relative, but that's the way it is.
Sometimes it's impossible for them to get past unless the member of the public shows some guts and decides to break the law in order to help the emergency vehicle on it's way. I've gone through a red light before for this exact same purpose, those that freeze up shouldn't be on the road as they're a bl**dy danger to everyone else, they're totally incapable of thinking for themselves and showing some initiative. These people drive along sat on top of the steering wearing blinkers, they are the exact same people that avoid certain roads because they're nervous of them.Gun said:
I find it a bit odd that everyone sped up (doing 50 in a 30) after seeing an ambulance behind them, if you were on a dual carriageway then surely you'd all just filter into the inside lane and let them past?
Good point..providing this particular D/c had two lanes in each direction..a D/C can be just a single lane each way as long as it is separated physically by something more substantial than a white line...It did - the OP's description of the snail race makes that quite clear.
The OP has also pointed out that this was in Japan, so the quibbles over points of UK law are not really relevant.
However, as regards getting out of the way of emergency vehicles, any delay to them may make the difference between life and death to whoever they are going to. So I will do whatever is necessary to facilitate their progress. If I can't do that without breaking the law then balls to the law... it's not a difficult choice.
Yes, and I do realise it is a sweeping generalisation and of course there are exceptions to the rule.
But as sweeping generalisations go, based on my experience it is pretty accurate.'Tisn't in mine... people of both sexes do bloody stupid things and sex alone is not correlated with bloody stupidity.
It may be one of several factors combined, such as "middle aged well-off women driving large 4x4s are likely to do so with a similar level of dithering incompetence and lack of awareness/vehicle control to someone who is still learning to drive", or "middle aged less-well-off men driving manky saloons with TAXI on the roof are likely to do 40 in a 30 if there's nothing in front of them or tailgate aggressively if there is".
But the sex of the driver on its own is no more an indication that they are likely to do something stupid than the fact that they are driving in the first place.
The OP has also pointed out that this was in Japan, so the quibbles over points of UK law are not really relevant.
However, as regards getting out of the way of emergency vehicles, any delay to them may make the difference between life and death to whoever they are going to. So I will do whatever is necessary to facilitate their progress. If I can't do that without breaking the law then balls to the law... it's not a difficult choice.
horton said:
lottie said:
horton said:
Seriously, women are slow minded fools - they are like ocean liners, once they start doing something they are unable to change course/speed and just hope that the ambulance, cyclist, ice-berg moves the fk out of the way.
And you are tarring us all with the same brush??!! k out of the way.But as sweeping generalisations go, based on my experience it is pretty accurate.
It may be one of several factors combined, such as "middle aged well-off women driving large 4x4s are likely to do so with a similar level of dithering incompetence and lack of awareness/vehicle control to someone who is still learning to drive", or "middle aged less-well-off men driving manky saloons with TAXI on the roof are likely to do 40 in a 30 if there's nothing in front of them or tailgate aggressively if there is".
But the sex of the driver on its own is no more an indication that they are likely to do something stupid than the fact that they are driving in the first place.
lottie said:
Nobody You Know said:
lottie said:
horton said:
Seriously, women are slow minded fools - they are like ocean liners, once they start doing something they are unable to change course/speed and just hope that the ambulance, cyclist, ice-berg moves the fk out of the way.
And you are tarring us all with the same brush??!! k out of the way.That was scary to write but f
k-it I can only say it like I sees it.I do agree that there are some terrible drivers out there but it's not just women!!
horton said:
they look straight ahead, with the belief that if they just continue driving in the same way, all the problems around them will go away.
This drives me mad. Instead of acknowling that they are in the wrong, they just pretend that you aren't there going absolutely effing mental at them trying to point out their error. Which only infuriates me more. The annoying thing is that all these stupid self safety campaigns tell you to avoid confrontation, ignore the road rage and drive on. By ignoring it rather than putting a hand up to apologise, acknowledging other road users as a matter of common courtesy or bothering to drive well in the first place they are actually inciting hostile motorists...
Basic manners and common sense seems to elude so many people...
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