Gum Tree Robbery Warning
Gum Tree Robbery Warning
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Melman Giraffe

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6,794 posts

238 months

Thursday 30th April 2009
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Gum Tree Robbery Warning

A friend of mine arranged a viewing of an Audi A4 which was advertised on Gum Tree. Prior to the viewing he told the seller that if the car was as advertised he would probably buy it immediately via bank transfer. The seller told him that he preferred cash (approx 6k), so my mate went to the bank to withdraw the money.

To cut a long story short.......


That evening they had arranged to meet at an address in North London at 6.30. He arrived at the address 15 mins early only to find that the address was a private dead end road with a number of large detached houses. Just as he arrived he noticed two young men at the end of the road smoking and generally hanging around, so as you can imagine the alarm bells started to ring. At that point the seller calls him to say that he is running late and would he mind holding on, and to check what car he was in.

Within 2 minutes he noticed in his mirror 2 men running up behind the car in balaclavas holding monkey wrenches. He locked the doors of the car and started to drive away whilst they were smashing the car windows in a trying to grab him.

After informing the police they told him that 3 other victims had been attacked that day and ended up in hospital.

I thought I would share this with you as a word of warning!!!

zeb

3,279 posts

238 months

Thursday 30th April 2009
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sheeeet..nastyeek

Pesty

42,655 posts

276 months

Thursday 30th April 2009
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Won;t the police be able to trace the seller through his phone number and car advert?

obviously the phone call was to confirm to the two acomplices that he was the buyer with the cash when he picked up the phone.


[AJ]

3,079 posts

218 months

Thursday 30th April 2009
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Yikes that is nasty. He should have run the buggers over.

SoapyShowerBoy

1,775 posts

215 months

Thursday 30th April 2009
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Bloody hell. It makes you want to put up with a rubbish P/ex from a dealer! At least the bashing you take will only be a metaphorical one!

john_p

7,073 posts

270 months

Thursday 30th April 2009
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Whatever posessed him that driving, alone, to an area he didn't know, to meet a person he'd never met was anything other than a terrible idea?

Edited by john_p on Thursday 30th April 15:10

Melman Giraffe

Original Poster:

6,794 posts

238 months

Thursday 30th April 2009
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Pesty said:
Won;t the police be able to trace the seller through his phone number and car advert?

obviously the phone call was to confirm to the two acomplices that he was the buyer with the cash when he picked up the phone.
The police are on to it.

Just don't want anyone else to fall into the same trap!

illmonkey

19,454 posts

218 months

Thursday 30th April 2009
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Sounds Nasty. Once of the reasons I don't like buying/selling privately. All that cash (usually).

We've had a similar thing happen, although no crobars. Went to view a car, ad seemed perfect. Got there, couldn't find address, then the bloke called and said he was running late. He turned up (parked next to us) and just got out and started selling. Didn't invite us to the (made up) address.

We both knew straight away it was dodgy (quick glance at each other). The car was knackered. Dents everywhere etc. We're going round saying "looks in perfect nick", trying to fob him off. He gets the paperwork out, tipex. I kid you not, there was tipex on one of the stamps, as well as a MOT missing from the same time frame.

"We've got an other to look at in 20 mins, bur really like this one, we'll be back with a deposit on the way back" Jump in car, drive like crazy out of there!

It was almost as badly done as those Nigerian email scams. If you're going to try, do it properly!


oyster

13,349 posts

268 months

Thursday 30th April 2009
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Melman Giraffe said:
Pesty said:
Won;t the police be able to trace the seller through his phone number and car advert?

obviously the phone call was to confirm to the two acomplices that he was the buyer with the cash when he picked up the phone.
The police are on to it.

Just don't want anyone else to fall into the same trap!
A trap for Darwin wanabees by the sounds of it.

[AJ]

3,079 posts

218 months

Thursday 30th April 2009
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oyster said:
Melman Giraffe said:
Pesty said:
Won;t the police be able to trace the seller through his phone number and car advert?

obviously the phone call was to confirm to the two acomplices that he was the buyer with the cash when he picked up the phone.
The police are on to it.

Just don't want anyone else to fall into the same trap!
A trap for Darwin wanabees by the sounds of it.
That's a bit harsh I think. Some people are more trusting than others and it could be an easy situation to get into. I think the OP is right to post it here. Perhaps even worth getting a sticky put up by one of the mods.

oyster

13,349 posts

268 months

Thursday 30th April 2009
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[AJ] said:
oyster said:
Melman Giraffe said:
Pesty said:
Won;t the police be able to trace the seller through his phone number and car advert?

obviously the phone call was to confirm to the two acomplices that he was the buyer with the cash when he picked up the phone.
The police are on to it.

Just don't want anyone else to fall into the same trap!
A trap for Darwin wanabees by the sounds of it.
That's a bit harsh I think. Some people are more trusting than others and it could be an easy situation to get into. I think the OP is right to post it here. Perhaps even worth getting a sticky put up by one of the mods.
I'm afraid anyone dumb enough to fall for such a trick (I won't call it a scam as it's not a very good one), is not very likely to understand what the warning actually means.

Sorry but if you don't think that taking £6K in cash to a random stranger in a random location is odd, then you're unlikely to take much notice of any warnings.

Melman Giraffe

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6,794 posts

238 months

Thursday 30th April 2009
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oyster said:
Melman Giraffe said:
Pesty said:
Won;t the police be able to trace the seller through his phone number and car advert?

obviously the phone call was to confirm to the two acomplices that he was the buyer with the cash when he picked up the phone.
The police are on to it.

Just don't want anyone else to fall into the same trap!
A trap for Darwin wanabees by the sounds of it.
Thank you - Take it or leave it. I didn't have to post this but I thought PH would like to know so that others don't get caught out. On reflection my mate admits it was a bit foolish to get himself into that situation, however in the excitment of getting a new car he left his head at home.

bazking69

8,620 posts

210 months

Thursday 30th April 2009
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Half the problem is people fall for it because they get ahead of themselves.
It is a silly idea to bring cash for a first viewing, especially if you don't know the area. I always make that clear on the phone.
This scam isn't a new concept, it has been happening for years sadly.
I didn't even bother stopping to look at one car once purely because I didn't like the look of the road he lived on.

Dupont666

22,382 posts

212 months

Thursday 30th April 2009
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taking cash is the first mistake... I would never buy a car for cash when looking it over... I would organise a second meeting at a bank to give/transfer the cash there and then.

PD9

2,039 posts

205 months

Thursday 30th April 2009
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WOW - thanks for the heads up! I feel terrible for your friend though!

spikeyhead

19,382 posts

217 months

Thursday 30th April 2009
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Always go as a pair, the one with the money stays in the car with the lump hammer.

adam85

1,264 posts

211 months

Thursday 30th April 2009
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Sheesh, not good! Lucky to have escaped that - bugger to have their windows smashed though, should have run the tossers over!

Shamu

147 posts

200 months

Thursday 30th April 2009
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spikeyhead said:
Always go as a pair, the one with the money stays in the car with the lump hammer.
I like this mans Style biggrin

911motorsport

7,251 posts

253 months

Thursday 30th April 2009
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illmonkey said:
Sounds Nasty. Once of the reasons I don't like buying/selling privately. All that cash (usually).

We've had a similar thing happen, although no crobars. Went to view a car, ad seemed perfect. Got there, couldn't find address, then the bloke called and said he was running late. He turned up (parked next to us) and just got out and started selling. Didn't invite us to the (made up) address.

We both knew straight away it was dodgy (quick glance at each other). The car was knackered. Dents everywhere etc. We're going round saying "looks in perfect nick", trying to fob him off. He gets the paperwork out, tipex. I kid you not, there was tipex on one of the stamps, as well as a MOT missing from the same time frame.

"We've got an other to look at in 20 mins, bur really like this one, we'll be back with a deposit on the way back" Jump in car, drive like crazy out of there!

It was almost as badly done as those Nigerian email scams. If you're going to try, do it properly!
I've had almost the exact same thing, only when the seller arrived he blocked the exit from the area we were parked in. It was obvious within 10 feet of the car that it was a wrong'n (dodgy panel gaps, over spray on window rubbers etc.). When this was pointed out he started getting quite angsty about it. Luckily Mrs911 is built like a brick sthouse or I'm not sure we'd have got out of there so easily.

gareth.e

2,071 posts

209 months

Thursday 30th April 2009
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911motorsport said:
illmonkey said:
Sounds Nasty. Once of the reasons I don't like buying/selling privately. All that cash (usually).

We've had a similar thing happen, although no crobars. Went to view a car, ad seemed perfect. Got there, couldn't find address, then the bloke called and said he was running late. He turned up (parked next to us) and just got out and started selling. Didn't invite us to the (made up) address.

We both knew straight away it was dodgy (quick glance at each other). The car was knackered. Dents everywhere etc. We're going round saying "looks in perfect nick", trying to fob him off. He gets the paperwork out, tipex. I kid you not, there was tipex on one of the stamps, as well as a MOT missing from the same time frame.

"We've got an other to look at in 20 mins, bur really like this one, we'll be back with a deposit on the way back" Jump in car, drive like crazy out of there!

It was almost as badly done as those Nigerian email scams. If you're going to try, do it properly!
I've had almost the exact same thing, only when the seller arrived he blocked the exit from the area we were parked in. It was obvious within 10 feet of the car that it was a wrong'n (dodgy panel gaps, over spray on window rubbers etc.). When this was pointed out he started getting quite angsty about it. Luckily Mrs911 is built like a brick sthouse or I'm not sure we'd have got out of there so easily.
Is Mrs911 called Bianca?

I tried to find out more when you said she was built like a brick sthouse hehe

...Unless you were merely insulting her weight issues biggrin