London cyclist in "not a total arse" shocker
London cyclist in "not a total arse" shocker
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Scrumper

Original Poster:

318 posts

203 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2009
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Tired, getting out of a black cab today at a red light, I didn't look and popped the suicide door open blocking the nearside completely. Next thing I know a cyclist is in the cab with me. He couldn't have been nicer about it, even apologised to me despite the fact that I came within a gnat's pube of causing quite a nasty accident. He'd managed to stop before bending his bike or himself fortunately. Obviously I apologised a lot too but I was mostly surprised he wasn't kicking off.

So, anyway, they're not all maniacal twunts fueled by lentils and jealousy, some of them are decent human beings who recognise a mistake and accept an apology. His painted on lycra and 'extreeeeemeeee' sunglasses marked him out as having an advanced case of cycletosis too.

Somewhatfoolish

4,958 posts

207 months

Saturday 6th June 2009
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oh

NDA

24,426 posts

246 months

Saturday 6th June 2009
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He was tearing up the nearside - surely his lookout?

The Riddler

6,565 posts

218 months

Saturday 6th June 2009
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NDA said:
He was tearing up the nearside - surely his lookout?
My thoughts too.

If you had been making an exit from something a bit more PH, and alot less 'taxi' i wonder if his reaction would of been the same?

GKP

15,099 posts

262 months

Saturday 6th June 2009
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I suspect he was a tourist and not a London native.

Chilli

17,320 posts

257 months

Saturday 6th June 2009
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Reminds me of a few years ago. Me and a few mates were leaving the pub, and went to get a cab along bishopsgate to move to another pub to watch England play. Anyway, we cross the road, but one of my mates didn't look properly and a cyclist rode straight into him, at a reasonable speed. They both hit the floor, and the cyclist is fuming....absolutely mad. We all apologise and help him up, whist accepting all the abuse beng hurled at my mate. We then flag a cab, and jump in, passing said cyclist again. A few minutes later we get to our destination, and open the door....... I sh!t you not, straight into the same cyclist. He was trying to fly up the inside of the cab, not realising we were getting out. He hit the floor again! Not really hurt, but this time we had no sympathy!

SLCZ3

1,277 posts

226 months

Saturday 6th June 2009
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So, cyclist does not look ahead and see taxi at the curb getting ready to allow a passenger alight. Said cyclist then cyles directly in to opening door instead of passing on the outside of the taxi cab.
SO said cyclist luck not suffer severe injury due to his own lack of spatial awareness, road positioning and overall lack of care.
loser

bluetone

2,047 posts

240 months

Saturday 6th June 2009
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SLCZ3 said:
So, cyclist does not look ahead and see taxi at the curb getting ready to allow a passenger alight. Said cyclist then cyles directly in to opening door instead of passing on the outside of the taxi cab.
SO said cyclist luck not suffer severe injury due to his own lack of spatial awareness, road positioning and overall lack of care.
loser
yes

He won't last long riding like that in a busy city.

malaccamax

1,516 posts

252 months

Saturday 6th June 2009
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It's not about cyclist v driver. It's more about a perception of rightness.

Couple of keen cycling mates in London, one with a Legacy B4, another with a 944. Pedalling these days is another modish activity to go with the kite-surfing, skiing and nice car. The combination isn't rare.

What is rare is finding someone who understands the human condition enough to realise that the natural reaction in danger situations is to cast yourself as the wronged party. So rather than kick off, they exhibit an understanding of all our frailties and react in a more sympathetic way, like your inadvertent taxi passenger. Very rare, and refreshing when you find one.

Me, I think London 4x4 drivers are all c*nts.

stuthemong

2,497 posts

238 months

Saturday 6th June 2009
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The taxi driver is also at fault here. If you are getting out the nearside he should check his mirror and shout if lycra is nearby.

bigandclever

14,184 posts

259 months

Saturday 6th June 2009
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Of course, the cab was stopped at red lights and the cyclist must've thought he had enough room to get up the inside, both of which imply the cab wasn't positioned as if they were about to drop a fare off at the pavement. And then some plonker opened the door into the cyclist's face without looking. So, for me, the cyclist isn't at fault at all smile

eccles

14,158 posts

243 months

Saturday 6th June 2009
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stuthemong said:
The taxi driver is also at fault here. If you are getting out the nearside he should check his mirror and shout if lycra is nearby.
confused I'm confused, car pulled up at kerb has to watch out for cyclists coming up the inside? Shouldn't the cyclist go round the outside of the car?

NDA

24,426 posts

246 months

Saturday 6th June 2009
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malaccamax said:
Me, I think London 4x4 drivers are all c*nts.
That's pleasant.

Closet Roy

93 posts

240 months

Saturday 6th June 2009
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So the cyclist admitted his mistake and apologised... and yet is still deemed a gimp by the PH analysts... why am I not surprised

flemke

23,379 posts

258 months

Saturday 6th June 2009
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bigandclever said:
Of course, the cab was stopped at red lights and the cyclist must've thought he had enough room to get up the inside, both of which imply the cab wasn't positioned as if they were about to drop a fare off at the pavement. And then some plonker opened the door into the cyclist's face without looking. So, for me, the cyclist isn't at fault at all smile
There is no way that this was the cyclist's "fault", contrary to what some here have suggested. In town, I try never to open a door on either side of a car without first checking for a cyclist coming from behind.
Nonetheless, on a pushbike you have to look out for yourself. It's obvious that the door of any stopped taxi could potentially pop open without warning, so the cyclist has a responsibility to check whether there's a passenger inside and, if there is, to take care.
In this case, even if the passenger decided to alight only after the cab had stopped at the lights, and thus the driver had no opportunity to go near to the kerb, it would have helped if the driver had put on his hazards or left indicator.

Henry Hawthorne

6,478 posts

237 months

Saturday 6th June 2009
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NDA said:
He was tearing up the nearside - surely his lookout?
Yes, but if the cab is stopped at the red lights how is he supposed to know some fool is going to get out without bothering to look?

Definitely passenger's fault.

W00DY

16,382 posts

247 months

Saturday 6th June 2009
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The cycling negativity from some members knows no bounds, imagine you are driving alongside cars waiting for a green and someone opens a dorr right in ront of you, you couldn't stop so why should the cyclist. People should look before opening a door in an unexpected place.

robsti

12,241 posts

227 months

Saturday 6th June 2009
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stuthemong said:
The taxi driver is also at fault here. If you are getting out the nearside he should check his mirror and shout if lycra is nearby.
Not if he is indicating and is stopped!

flemke

23,379 posts

258 months

Saturday 6th June 2009
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robsti said:
stuthemong said:
The taxi driver is also at fault here. If you are getting out the nearside he should check his mirror and shout if lycra is nearby.
Not if he is indicating and is stopped!
He wasn't stopped next to the kerb as he ought to have been - we know that.
We don't know whether his indicator was on.

robsti

12,241 posts

227 months

Saturday 6th June 2009
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Henry Hawthorne said:
NDA said:
He was tearing up the nearside - surely his lookout?
Yes, but if the cab is stopped at the red lights how is he supposed to know some fool is going to get out without bothering to look?

Definitely passenger's fault.
Is undertaking still against the law ?