Classic Scirocco, any good?
Discussion
I quite like to look of these, might be a nice cheap car whilst I save for something better, the golf is annoying me as it's uninspiring, and I could get a good classic rocco for 1k ish. Anyone driven one? It'd need to be a scala with 113bhp because 90bhp standard one is less than my 1.6 golf. Are they nippy enough the scalas?
Yup, like a lot of people on here, I'm on my first car, I like cars, I'd like to experience driving a good car but I'm not sold on any at the mo. Just like to see peoples experience of these cars, as if I wanted say, a BMW I can ask people I know, but I don't know anyone with a 172, Clio Williams, or a classic rocco.
I've always thought that a 316i Compact would be a good first car?
100BHP RWD and cheap as at the moment!
Worth a thought.
Regarss Scirocco's My first car was a MKII 1.8 GTI and I loved it for the VERY short time I had it on the road
Great driving position if I remember correctly, much sportier feeling than the golf.
I'm always put off with how much they are, should be £500 for a good one imo.
Duncan
100BHP RWD and cheap as at the moment!
Worth a thought.
Regarss Scirocco's My first car was a MKII 1.8 GTI and I loved it for the VERY short time I had it on the road
Great driving position if I remember correctly, much sportier feeling than the golf
.I'm always put off with how much they are, should be £500 for a good one imo.
Duncan
Don't discount the 1.8 GT2's and GL's, it's a decent engine and it what is basically a MK1 Golf is enough to stick with a MK2 8V GTi Golf (as we found out).
You can also easily stick a Webber carb and GTi cam' in to get around 100bhp.
If you can find a GTX or Scala then great but there are loads more GT2's and GL's about so you may find it easier to get a decent one and it should be less money.
Anyway I know a couple of people who have run MK2 Scirocco's and they have just gone on forever, great fun as well. Do not expect to ever be able to carry anyone in the back though the rear seats are useless. Best to just bin the rear seats and have a massive rear load space.
You can also easily stick a Webber carb and GTi cam' in to get around 100bhp.
If you can find a GTX or Scala then great but there are loads more GT2's and GL's about so you may find it easier to get a decent one and it should be less money.
Anyway I know a couple of people who have run MK2 Scirocco's and they have just gone on forever, great fun as well. Do not expect to ever be able to carry anyone in the back though the rear seats are useless. Best to just bin the rear seats and have a massive rear load space.
As said above, buy the one in the best possible condition you can, and go for a GTX or Scala. Beware that some Scala's iirc had the 90hp 1.8 carb engine. They are incredibly well put together and are light enough to make full use of a meagre (by modern standards) 112BHP. Think MK1 Golf GTi performance and similar handling 
Hang on a minute - weren't the MK2 totally slated for horrible, soft handling and a pathetic engine? The Scala was a chavtastic thing in white with white stripes across the rear lights. It's never going to be a classic, unless Bonnie Tyler's hairstyle is too. The Mk1 was light, taught and nimble (for the day) and would be a far better bet. Most valuable classics seem to be the best of breed of their time and the MK2 Scirocco was definitely not that.
Edited by FamilyGuy on Tuesday 15th September 11:03
FamilyGuy said:
JS 7 said:
Clarkson had two! Just thought you should know
Not sure what your point is I've had some horrible cars but it wasn't from choice and I wouldn't hold myself up as a definitive arbiter of taste in cars either. Same goes for Mr Clarkson.FamilyGuy said:
Hang on a minute - weren't the MK2 totally slated for horrible, soft handling and a pathetic engine?
There's a world of difference between a 1.8 injected Scala or GTX and a 1.6 carb'd GT. I had a GTX for years. 1.8 K-Jet engine (same as Mk2 Golf GTI, wouldn't describe it as a 'pathetic' engine...), as mentioned, only 112 bhp but enough to give it a half-decent power/weight ratio and 0-60 in 8.3 secs. The cars are well-built, with a low driving position and chuckable handling. Feels just like a Mk1 or Mk2 GTI but sitting lower in the seat. It is mechanically a Mk1 Golf GTI with a lower CofG. I had fresh dampers and springs on mine, and it handled just as well as any of the other 80's VW, Peugeot & Lancia hot hatches I owned. I agree that the steering is shockingly heavy, and not particularly highly-geared, but then neither is the non-PAS Golf GTI. The brakes are crap, due to a bodge to link to LHD-positioned servo, but do a reasonable job if you apply Schwarzenegger amounts of pressure to the middle pedal.Edited by FamilyGuy on Tuesday 15th September 11:03
The carb'd GT-spec cars I'd avoid completely. 75 or 90bhp, softer suspension and without the injected cars' anti-roll bar setup, they are slow and a bit vague in comparison.
Incidentally, might Sir like to increase his budget slightly and try a Corrado? It's a better car in every way than the Mk2 Rocco & Mk2 GTI, and I've owned all three.
There's been the odd G60 or VR6 engine conversion done on the Scirocco, that may have been under the bonnet of the purple one you saw, as the only way to get a standard injected Scirocco beyond 130mph would be to catapult it off a cliff. There were some very rare 16v Mk2s imported; a mate had one, same 139bhp as the Mk2 GTI 16v.
Much as I loved mine at the time (I had 2 Roccos actually), I do think the Mk2 has dated horribly, and perhaps doesn't exactly have the classiest image amongst non-enthusiasts now (if it ever did!).
Much as I loved mine at the time (I had 2 Roccos actually), I do think the Mk2 has dated horribly, and perhaps doesn't exactly have the classiest image amongst non-enthusiasts now (if it ever did!).
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