kryten doesn't like top gear
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i was watching red dwarf on you tube (don't know why as iv'e got most of the dvds) and came across robert llewellyns home page.
http://www.youtube.com/user/bobbyllew#play/search/...
i never thought he would be so anti car or to put it another way so pro electric car.especially when you look at some of the programmes he presents ie
Scrapheap How Do They Do It? Top Trumps
http://www.youtube.com/user/bobbyllew#play/search/...
i never thought he would be so anti car or to put it another way so pro electric car.especially when you look at some of the programmes he presents ie
Scrapheap How Do They Do It? Top Trumps
He gets paid to present 'Scrapheap Challenge' etc. Modern socialists happily discard idealistic principles when there's money at stake.
BTW think of all the extra power stations we'll need to make the electricity for all these electric cars... oddly they never think of that, it's just, like, that green power is, like, so clean?
BTW think of all the extra power stations we'll need to make the electricity for all these electric cars... oddly they never think of that, it's just, like, that green power is, like, so clean?

Hang on - isn't this the video where he rants about their treatment of the hydrogen car being incredibly stupid? I'm inclined to agree. That show annoyed me immensely. Going on about hydrogen as if it's some kind of magical fuel got on my tits. Hydrogen fuels cells are essentially just another type of battery.
on scrapheap he would regularly grin while talking about the sound and power of V8 engines
but it was all just lies!
it does not, however, make it any easier that they've replaced him on the show with captain dick
im not being rude, thats his rank and name
i want the lies back, oh, and also, i want to forget that they're lies!
but it was all just lies!
it does not, however, make it any easier that they've replaced him on the show with captain dick
im not being rude, thats his rank and name

i want the lies back, oh, and also, i want to forget that they're lies!
has he actually thought that drivel through. why is it that people assume that car companies want their products price and desirability to be directly related to another product (oil).
lets be honest, if i was in charge at ford i would be begging the engineers to kill our reliance on oil and petrol / diesal. could you imagine the sales surge that they would have if they could give you a car to run that was as cheap if not cheaper than its fossil fuel equivalent, and the huge pr bonus. you might even get the yoghurt knitters endorsing the cars, and you would not have to watch sales fall every time some oil sheikh wants a new palace and ups the price etc.
why does anyone think this is a good business practice, surely they must see that the car companies would love to kick the petro chemical industry into touch.
and fine battery cars may be cheaper, but not all of us want to travel 200 miles and then wait 6 hours for the next 200, forgot to mention that didn't you kryten, it may cost £40 for a petrol or even hydrogen car, but they only take 10 minutes to fill for the next bit of travel. with a battery car my trip to scotland this year would have taken 24 hours, there, i would have lost a day travelling because of recharge times.
i would love for a new fuel / power source to come online, but its got to be practical, you can't condemn something then give someone an alternative that only gives them half what they had.
i am so disappointed he has done in his argument exactly what he criticises james may and jezza for, he leaves out the bits that don't suit his argument.
burke
lets be honest, if i was in charge at ford i would be begging the engineers to kill our reliance on oil and petrol / diesal. could you imagine the sales surge that they would have if they could give you a car to run that was as cheap if not cheaper than its fossil fuel equivalent, and the huge pr bonus. you might even get the yoghurt knitters endorsing the cars, and you would not have to watch sales fall every time some oil sheikh wants a new palace and ups the price etc.
why does anyone think this is a good business practice, surely they must see that the car companies would love to kick the petro chemical industry into touch.
and fine battery cars may be cheaper, but not all of us want to travel 200 miles and then wait 6 hours for the next 200, forgot to mention that didn't you kryten, it may cost £40 for a petrol or even hydrogen car, but they only take 10 minutes to fill for the next bit of travel. with a battery car my trip to scotland this year would have taken 24 hours, there, i would have lost a day travelling because of recharge times.
i would love for a new fuel / power source to come online, but its got to be practical, you can't condemn something then give someone an alternative that only gives them half what they had.
i am so disappointed he has done in his argument exactly what he criticises james may and jezza for, he leaves out the bits that don't suit his argument.
burke
jesta1865 said:
has he actually thought that drivel through. why is it that people assume that car companies want their products price and desirability to be directly related to another product (oil).
lets be honest, if i was in charge at ford i would be begging the engineers to kill our reliance on oil and petrol / diesal. could you imagine the sales surge that they would have if they could give you a car to run that was as cheap if not cheaper than its fossil fuel equivalent, and the huge pr bonus. you might even get the yoghurt knitters endorsing the cars, and you would not have to watch sales fall every time some oil sheikh wants a new palace and ups the price etc.
why does anyone think this is a good business practice, surely they must see that the car companies would love to kick the petro chemical industry into touch.
and fine battery cars may be cheaper, but not all of us want to travel 200 miles and then wait 6 hours for the next 200, forgot to mention that didn't you kryten, it may cost £40 for a petrol or even hydrogen car, but they only take 10 minutes to fill for the next bit of travel. with a battery car my trip to scotland this year would have taken 24 hours, there, i would have lost a day travelling because of recharge times.
i would love for a new fuel / power source to come online, but its got to be practical, you can't condemn something then give someone an alternative that only gives them half what they had.
i am so disappointed he has done in his argument exactly what he criticises james may and jezza for, he leaves out the bits that don't suit his argument.
burke
His point wasn't necessarily that battery cars are cheaper - just that it's impossible to compare at the moment because there isn't a mass market fuel cell car. Similarly it'd currently take you a lot longer than 24 hours to get to Scotland in a fuel cell car because you can't exactly fill up with hydrogen at your local BP yet, can you?lets be honest, if i was in charge at ford i would be begging the engineers to kill our reliance on oil and petrol / diesal. could you imagine the sales surge that they would have if they could give you a car to run that was as cheap if not cheaper than its fossil fuel equivalent, and the huge pr bonus. you might even get the yoghurt knitters endorsing the cars, and you would not have to watch sales fall every time some oil sheikh wants a new palace and ups the price etc.
why does anyone think this is a good business practice, surely they must see that the car companies would love to kick the petro chemical industry into touch.
and fine battery cars may be cheaper, but not all of us want to travel 200 miles and then wait 6 hours for the next 200, forgot to mention that didn't you kryten, it may cost £40 for a petrol or even hydrogen car, but they only take 10 minutes to fill for the next bit of travel. with a battery car my trip to scotland this year would have taken 24 hours, there, i would have lost a day travelling because of recharge times.
i would love for a new fuel / power source to come online, but its got to be practical, you can't condemn something then give someone an alternative that only gives them half what they had.
i am so disappointed he has done in his argument exactly what he criticises james may and jezza for, he leaves out the bits that don't suit his argument.
burke
Batteries are getting better, so are capacitors and fuel cells. I don't think it's possible to tell which tech 'wins' yet. Currently they're both s
t.Edited by hairykrishna on Sunday 20th September 22:42
There's no need for 'spittle-launching' rants like this because the ball is already rolling:
- The Prius V can run on its battery alone and odds-on the next iteration will come with a flex to plug it in at home so not all of the power is derived from the tank
- Plenty of independents (Tesla, Fisker etc.) are putting solutions out that aren't 'vaporware'
- The GM Volt is looking less like a hoax
- Loads of supporting products in the pipeline (Lotus Engineering genny for example)
This tech is no different to any other tech. Just sit back and wait for it all to unfold as it becomes commercially viable.
- The Prius V can run on its battery alone and odds-on the next iteration will come with a flex to plug it in at home so not all of the power is derived from the tank
- Plenty of independents (Tesla, Fisker etc.) are putting solutions out that aren't 'vaporware'
- The GM Volt is looking less like a hoax
- Loads of supporting products in the pipeline (Lotus Engineering genny for example)
This tech is no different to any other tech. Just sit back and wait for it all to unfold as it becomes commercially viable.
He does make several valid points. Coal powered cars aren't the way forward, and even if they were, with the way such technology improves, a year old car is going to be unsellable - and then the government will tax electricity, where supply is already questionable, which will in ten years time cost an absolute fortune even without such a drain on the system. All this on the back of the con of global warming.
If you want to fix the planet, remove the human race - one species vs millions - it's the only thing that makes sense.
If you want to fix the planet, remove the human race - one species vs millions - it's the only thing that makes sense.
He's a
. As bad as the hollywood idiots.
I wanted to put a comment on his vid but decided against it. Obviously thinks he's an engineer.
He' cites the expense of the BMW hydrogen car.
Any prototype is expensive. The Jaguar X350 gasoline prototype was expensive- like millions. A Fiat grand Punto diesel prototype is expensive. So why is this f
king idiot comparing this small volume non mainstream BMW with the more mainstream Tesla?
Dumb f
k!
. As bad as the hollywood idiots.I wanted to put a comment on his vid but decided against it. Obviously thinks he's an engineer.
He' cites the expense of the BMW hydrogen car.
Any prototype is expensive. The Jaguar X350 gasoline prototype was expensive- like millions. A Fiat grand Punto diesel prototype is expensive. So why is this f
king idiot comparing this small volume non mainstream BMW with the more mainstream Tesla?Dumb f
k!Edited by Marquis_Rex on Monday 21st September 00:11
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