trailer test?
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matt 2LT

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4,508 posts

212 months

Tuesday 22nd September 2009
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basically im looking to get a track car, possibly an e36.

now i passed in 2007, now i have searched on hear and google, and got very confused with what i can tow, but im guessing this will be too heavy on my licence.

my car weighs 1272 kg , and a track car say 1200 + 500 for a trailer so around 1700 KG.

so i take it i have to do the test.

now what is involved in this?

how do i go about doing it?

cheers,
matt

stewy68

1,826 posts

272 months

Tuesday 22nd September 2009
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Graham

16,381 posts

313 months

Graham

16,381 posts

313 months

Tuesday 22nd September 2009
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dam beaten to it but my link is funnier hehe

B'stard Child

31,100 posts

275 months

Tuesday 22nd September 2009
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Graham said:
dam beaten to it but my link is funnier hehe
Indeed how the fug do you do that.......

Ahhh worked it out - neat - and very usefull - ta every day is a school day

Edited by B'stard Child on Tuesday 22 September 11:15

matt 2LT

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4,508 posts

212 months

Tuesday 22nd September 2009
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yes i had actually come across that site, but it doesn't really explain the test.

like what do i do about the car + trailer i do the test in, how can i tow a trailer to a test if i don't have the license.

and is it possible to practice towing before doing the test?

Graham

16,381 posts

313 months

Tuesday 22nd September 2009
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Typical government site then... you might be better off dropping a post in the msport section of the forums... THere are a few younger guys who have had to do the test on there who may be able to give more specific advise on what they did. Im far to old to have had to do that hehe

Bill

58,658 posts

284 months

Tuesday 22nd September 2009
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matt 2LT said:
my car weighs 1272 kg , and a track car say 1200 + 500 for a trailer so around 1700 KG.
AFAIK the trailer shouldn't weigh more than 85% of the tow vehicle's weight.

dan101smith

17,050 posts

240 months

Tuesday 22nd September 2009
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You'll be able to tow the trailer empty without taking the test AIUI, just not with a track car on.

I'd check your car's manual if I were you, as I'm pretty sure that an E36 on a trailer will be well over your maximum towing weight.

I'll be towing mine with an E39 Touring, which can tow up to 2000kg, and I expect that to be marginal.

Vixpy1

42,699 posts

293 months

Tuesday 22nd September 2009
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dan101smith said:
You'll be able to tow the trailer empty without taking the test AIUI, just not with a track car on.

I'd check your car's manual if I were you, as I'm pretty sure that an E36 on a trailer will be well over your maximum towing weight.

I'll be towing mine with an E39 Touring, which can tow up to 2000kg, and I expect that to be marginal.
Remember its the Authroised mass of the car and trailor Dan, not the actual mass, so if you have a car with an authorised mass of 2000kg and a trailor with an authorised mass of 2000kg, you will be over the limit.

James_N

3,302 posts

263 months

Tuesday 22nd September 2009
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If the trailer is braked, then you will be fine, it just cant exceed 3.5 tons combined. I used to tow my 1300KG caravan with my 1500KG Volvo. Ive also towed other stuff with it.

I dont think even the police know though, its a very grey area!

sniff diesel

13,125 posts

241 months

Tuesday 22nd September 2009
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matt 2LT said:
my car weighs 1272 kg , and a track car say 1200 + 500 for a trailer so around 1700 KG.
You want to use your MK4 Astra to tow the E36 around on a trailer? It might have the power but not the weight and stability.

mat205125

17,790 posts

242 months

Tuesday 22nd September 2009
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I think regardless of the weights you will need to do a trailer test as you will have zero entitlement for towing.

pits

6,704 posts

219 months

Tuesday 22nd September 2009
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IIRC
If the trailer is over 750kg you need a trailer test done, unless you past before april I think 1998

Trailer test consists of fk all to do with driving with a trailer, same as a driving test, know someone who failed for not using there mirrors enough, yet scored 100%,

Basically its just manouvering with a trailer on, reverse parking etc

onomatopoeia

3,526 posts

246 months

Tuesday 22nd September 2009
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Bill said:
matt 2LT said:
my car weighs 1272 kg , and a track car say 1200 + 500 for a trailer so around 1700 KG.
AFAIK the trailer shouldn't weigh more than 85% of the tow vehicle's weight.
That was a recommendation that the Caravan Club used to put in its yearbook (they may still do for all I know). Doesn't seem to have any legal force.

matt 2LT

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4,508 posts

212 months

Tuesday 22nd September 2009
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right well my manual says the maximum braked towing limit for my car is 1500 KG

so does this mean once ive done the test, that i can tow a trailer with a max gross weight of 1500KG?

i think a lightweight trailer and stripped e36 should be close to that.


DiscoStu

205 posts

241 months

Tuesday 22nd September 2009
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If its any use i know that the modern twin axelled vehicle trailer I use to carry my stripped out Pug 205 has a combined weight of about 1600kg. The trailor being 750kg and the car about 800kg plus the extra tyres and spares.

You might want to consider using a bigger tow vehicle.

pistol pete

805 posts

292 months

Tuesday 22nd September 2009
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I did mine last year.

Is exactly the same as a truck test, carried out at a truck test centre.

I found a driving instructor who did towing lessons, so I did one lesson, he said I was fine to do the test, then another hour immediately before the test (I had towed alot before though). As the test cost about £100 it seemed prudent to know what I was getting into beforehand. Also, things like wearing a hi viz when in the test centre, knowing exactly what the rules are for hitching/unhitching etc.

You need to use a box trailer for the test, I did it with a hired one & my own car, which the instructor arranged. Cost me about £300, as long as you can reverse (round corners) & remember to go slow & steady particularly through town, it's easy.

If you go to an HGV tuition company (who are all set up to do this commercially) then you will be looking at pushing 4 figures for a 3-4 day course in there vehicle.

If you drive an astra every day, you need to watch the manufacturer max towing weight as it might not be able to legally tow a heavy enough trailer to do the test. Towing an E36 with it (other than being legally a bit dodgy) would be somewhere between stupid & downright dangerous (IMO).

Pete

Edited by pistol pete on Tuesday 22 September 21:46

AdamW

775 posts

269 months

Wednesday 23rd September 2009
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pistol pete said:
I did mine last year.

Is exactly the same as a truck test, carried out at a truck test centre.

I found a driving instructor who did towing lessons, so I did one lesson, he said I was fine to do the test, then another hour immediately before the test (I had towed alot before though). As the test cost about £100 it seemed prudent to know what I was getting into beforehand. Also, things like wearing a hi viz when in the test centre, knowing exactly what the rules are for hitching/unhitching etc.[/footnote]
Where did you do your test and who was the instructor?

I can only find courses that are close to £1000. I've towed enough (below 750kg) to think that I won't need a 3-4 day course, but want to cross the Ts and dot the Is before going in for a test!

sniff diesel

13,125 posts

241 months

Tuesday 6th October 2009
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matt 2LT said:
i think a lightweight trailer and stripped e36 should be close to that.
Nope. about 200kgs more than that.