It's a gas?
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Poledriver

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29,590 posts

223 months

Thursday 5th November 2009
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Not sure if this should be in 'General Gassing' or not?

I'm (finally) getting my Ambiwlans/motorhome conversion under way. I've just been having a look at the best way to store gas for cooking and was wondering if any of the 'experts' on here can tell me if LPG (from the garage) can be used to power a gas hob?
What is the closest to LPG, Butane or Propane?

Don't worry, I'm anticipating a flaming for this one! biggrin

james_tigerwoods

16,347 posts

226 months

Thursday 5th November 2009
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I have nothing constructive to add, I'm afraid, but I'd love to see pictures of the build smile

Huntsman

9,331 posts

279 months

Thursday 5th November 2009
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Poledriver said:
Don't worry, I'm anticipating a flaming for this one! biggrin
Ignoring the hideous pun for now.

LPG - liquid propane gas.

There's a clue.

Bottled gas runs at a different pressure to house gas but essentially the same stuff.




P700DEE

1,198 posts

259 months

Thursday 5th November 2009
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You can cook on LPG burners, run the van and your kitchen, no problems smile

Huntsman

9,331 posts

279 months

Thursday 5th November 2009
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I put one of these in my boat kitchen, would be ideal in a camper.



Sometimes see you on the M27 in the spangly coloured estates car, honk if you see a C reg 520 bimbling along.


Engineer1

10,486 posts

238 months

Thursday 5th November 2009
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I believe the burners on the hob are set for a specific gas, so assuming the lpg from the garage can be safely plumbed in you should be fine, but you may well be better off buying a caravan cooker, and potentially fridge etc. Have you included vents along the proposed route of the gas pipes?

munroman

1,907 posts

213 months

Thursday 5th November 2009
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Hi, you will need a special tank, engine run on liquid LPG which is then heated and vapourised just prior to entering the engine.

Cookers, fridges , heaters, etc, need the LPG as a vapour.

The special tank is expensive and limits where you can place it due to its height and positioning requirements.

http://www.gasure.co.uk/ will give you some insight.

Toltec

7,179 posts

252 months

Thursday 5th November 2009
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According to Calor Butane comes in blue cylinders and propane in red and are both forms of LPG.


Bill

58,652 posts

284 months

Thursday 5th November 2009
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Huntsman said:
LPG - liquid propane gas.

There's a clue.
Or notwink

MrTrilby

1,164 posts

311 months

Thursday 5th November 2009
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It's fine. Used as a direct replacement for the orange propane Calor cylinders.

http://www.gaslow.co.uk/pages/c_s2_4.htm

entwisi

728 posts

220 months

Thursday 5th November 2009
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LPG is Liqued Petroleum gas which in this country is a mix of butane and propane. You 'could' use the gas from the petrol stations to cook with but you would need to do one of two things, either spilt the gas pipe after teh vapouriser to feed the cooker or take a gas/fume feed out of teh Tank itself. the former may have other issues like the fact that with the engine off the liqued gas feed from the Tank is usually isolated via a relay/valve.

Secondly why would you want to use fuel youve paid extra tax ( for road/transport use) to cook with. now if you were asking how to use the standard gas bottles to run your engine I could understand it! biggrin

Poledriver

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29,590 posts

223 months

Thursday 5th November 2009
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Well that was quick!
I was aware of what LPG stands for (unlike some!)smile
The reason I wanted to try LPG from the petrol station is that I was trying to get a tank which could be fitted under the van instead of taking up internal space.
Having read the replies, and looking at the links, I think I'll go the 'Gaslow' route and try and design around the gas bottle!

Thanks guys! thumbup

crofty1984

17,064 posts

233 months

Thursday 5th November 2009
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Huntsman said:
Poledriver said:
Don't worry, I'm anticipating a flaming for this one! biggrin
Ignoring the hideous pun for now.

LPG - liquid propane gas.

There's a clue.

Bottled gas runs at a different pressure to house gas but essentially the same stuff.
I thought it was liquefied petroleum gas??

Poledriver

Original Poster:

29,590 posts

223 months

Thursday 5th November 2009
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crofty1984 said:
Huntsman said:
Poledriver said:
Don't worry, I'm anticipating a flaming for this one! biggrin
Ignoring the hideous pun for now.

LPG - liquid propane gas.

There's a clue.

Bottled gas runs at a different pressure to house gas but essentially the same stuff.
I thought it was liquefied petroleum gas??
yes

Poledriver

Original Poster:

29,590 posts

223 months

Thursday 5th November 2009
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Huntsman said:
I put one of these in my boat kitchen, would be ideal in a camper.



Sometimes see you on the M27 in the spangly coloured estates car, honk if you see a C reg 520 bimbling along.
I'm going for the flush fit! smile


Bill

58,652 posts

284 months

Thursday 5th November 2009
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Those need quite a complex hole routed out for them so fitting is a pain.

andrewrob

2,913 posts

219 months

Thursday 5th November 2009
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My Grandad has an Autotrail campervan and he converted his to use LPG gas for heating/cooking. Hes got a filler cap (same as an LPG car) on the outside and 2 gas bottles of which both can be filled by using the filler cap on the outside.

It was relatively simple to install and he bought it as a kit from somewhere like Brownhills I think as thats where he bought the camper in the first place.