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paulrockliffe

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16,346 posts

250 months

Wednesday 3rd March 2010
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So, there I was, being a good little citizen, putting my new tax disc in. I'm leaning across from the drivers seat and when I'm done I sit up. I don't know why/how, but somehow while re-verticalising my torso my elbow made contact with the rear-view mirror. Hard. It flew out of the open door, the rear-view mirror that is, not my elbow.

Not ideal. But it gets worse. When I collected the mirror I learned that not only had I ejected the mirror from the car, but also a piece of the windscreen. Yes, glue is in fact stronger than glass!

So how do I fix it?

I did notice the other day that Gavin from Autoglass has some clever resin stuff, is that the sort of stuff I'm after.

So in summary, I need some sort of glue that will a) stick my rear-view mirror back on to the glass. b) stick the glass back onto the glass.

Ideas?

AndrewW-G

11,968 posts

240 months

Wednesday 3rd March 2010
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Phone insurance and see if its covered in the same way a chip or crack would be.

Jasandjules

71,905 posts

252 months

Wednesday 3rd March 2010
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You can get (in some garages) the little pads that are for sticking the rear view mirror back on with (they don't work terribly well IME - expect to hit a small bump in the road and the thump which follows being the rear view mirror bouncing off your leg).

ZOLLAR

19,920 posts

196 months

Wednesday 3rd March 2010
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I think your going to need a new windscreen, the resin repair is for small chips or cracks im presuming a sizeable chunk came out of the windscreen from your description!.

Gad-Westy

16,143 posts

236 months

Wednesday 3rd March 2010
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You mean there is a hole in your windscreen? Would expect it to be unfixable if that is the case. Your insurance should cover it subject to a small(ish) excess.

jas xjr

11,309 posts

262 months

Wednesday 3rd March 2010
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just take it to a windscreen place and they will sort it in minutes.

paulrockliffe

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16,346 posts

250 months

Wednesday 3rd March 2010
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Sorry, should have put in a description of the shard of glass; it's about half the thickness of the window, so there isn't a hole in the windscreen. The 'chip' is roughly diamond shape about 2cm x 1 cm.

I think it can be glued and then find out if I need a new windscreen later in the day. Will check insurance too, I know there's either £50 or £75 excess on a new screen. Would something like that count as a claim and would it bump up my premium?

My Dad has the same car, maybe I'll just steal his....

ZOLLAR

19,920 posts

196 months

Wednesday 3rd March 2010
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windscreen claims shouldnt affect ncb (can depend on what insurer your with though) if there isn't a hole they may aswell have a go at repairing depends obviously if its compromised the strength of the glass.

Jasandjules

71,905 posts

252 months

Thursday 4th March 2010
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paulrockliffe said:
Sorry, should have put in a description of the shard of glass; it's about half the thickness of the window, so there isn't a hole in the windscreen. The 'chip' is roughly diamond shape about 2cm x 1 cm.
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Hmm, that sounds like something you want to get a replacement windscreen for.

I don't think windscreen claims generally affect your policy BUT call your insurer to find out for sure! (they all have their own T&Cs)

Glassman

24,411 posts

238 months

Thursday 4th March 2010
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OP: depending on what car it is, this might be repairable...

Nolar Dog

8,786 posts

218 months

Thursday 4th March 2010
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paulrockliffe said:
My Dad has the same car, maybe I'll just steal his....
hehe

Glassman

24,411 posts

238 months

Thursday 4th March 2010
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...what car is it?

paulrockliffe

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16,346 posts

250 months

Friday 5th March 2010
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It's a 2000 Nissan Primera.

Pigeon

18,535 posts

269 months

Friday 5th March 2010
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Glassman

24,411 posts

238 months

Friday 5th March 2010
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Sorry Pigeon, but if you're after a cracked windscreen, that's the kind of stuff that breaks windscreens in my experience.

If the mirror bracket (known as a 'boss' in the trade) has come off, with the mirror and also taken a shell out of the glass, it's new windscreen time. However, I have successfully managed to repair these screens and they've all lasted as long as they would have before being damaged.

For the correct degreasing agent, adhesion promoters and adhesive, this is a job best carried out by a windscreen installer, but if you can get the stuff, you will need:

  • Latex gloves
  • Automotive grade tissue paper
  • Masking tape
  • Plastic spreader (like for filler etc)
  • Polyurethane (black)
  • Glass cleaner and activator (compatible with brand of polyurethane to be used)
  • Black adhesion promoter (compatible with the polyurethane to be used)
  • Single-edged blade
  • chisel/file/grinding wheel - to clean back of mirror boss.
First of all, clean the mirror boss and remove any traces of adhesive, glass completely; take the contact surface back to bare metal. File, chisel or grinding wheels work best, if none available, rub the back of the boss on a bit of kerb or pavement.

Next, clean the damaged area of the windscreen, shaving off any excess adhesive etc. Use the glass activator / cleaner to prepare the damaged area. Mask around the shelled area in the windscreen; try to keep this as tight to the shape of the original blacked out area. Once you're happy that you have a good shape in the middle of your rectangle (as it should be on a 2000 Primera) using the black primer, paint in the damaged area. While you have the black primer, also paint the rear of the mirror boss and leave to dry.

Allow sufficient time for this to dry in normal conditions (refer to manufacturer guidelines) but it is usually a minimum of six minutes in normal temperature.

Once dry, using the plastic spreader work in a small amount of polyurethane and smooth off, flush to the glass (what you're looking to achieve is a flat finish to the shelled area, with no holes in the surface). Apply a pea-sized amount of polyurethane to the mirror boss and offer it to the windscreen. Position the boss to the centre of the (what is now) black, repaired area of the screen and hold in place with two strips of masking tape applied in the shape of a cross.

Leave overnight.

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Remove all masking tape. Carefull and safelyusing a single-edged blade, tidy up any excess primer / urethane which may have got under the mask lines.

Re-attach mirror and send Glassman a PM to tell him what a great job you've done.

Bingo.

davidjpowell

18,589 posts

207 months

Friday 5th March 2010
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Brings back memory of a trip to france a few years ago. Leaning over to collect my ticket at the autoroute, caught the mirrors which flew off the ball.

Stopped to try and push it back on, only for the windscreen to crack. Middle of heatwave and was seeing in excess of 40deg C on the car temp gauge. Each day the 3 cracks got longer, until stretched whole width of car.

Discovered that my french was crap when dealer booked the car in for the day after I was due home. Then realised that as I was dragging my parents white elephant home, I had been forced to join Caravan Club to get special rate ferry. One phone call to helpline, car booked in to French equivalent of Autoglass and job is a good one.

paulrockliffe

Original Poster:

16,346 posts

250 months

Monday 10th October 2011
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Just as an update, I got some glass glue stuff and stuck the mirror back in place, still going strong!