The "3 month dealer warranty" thing
Discussion
Just curious and want clarification (I dont have a car or have a problem with a car under it, just for interest)
When did this 3 month dealer warranty come in to play, and is it a ase that a dealer has to provide either himself, or take out one of the many warranties that have now become available. And from reading here, it is a legal requirement?
Also, what does the dealer have to do to qualify for the warranty? I cant help but think there is potential for abuse from the dealer in buying a car in with a known engine problem, selling it to the customer and then getting the problem fixed two weeks later under the warranty thereby not paying for it themselves...
I also suppose this is why most of the second hand dealers I deal with are actually quite reasonable, as opposed to "sand in the gearbox" merchants
Overall, was this brought in to stop the Del Boy traders of the world, or has this kind of warranty stuff existed for a while and I just havent noticed?
When did this 3 month dealer warranty come in to play, and is it a ase that a dealer has to provide either himself, or take out one of the many warranties that have now become available. And from reading here, it is a legal requirement?
Also, what does the dealer have to do to qualify for the warranty? I cant help but think there is potential for abuse from the dealer in buying a car in with a known engine problem, selling it to the customer and then getting the problem fixed two weeks later under the warranty thereby not paying for it themselves...
I also suppose this is why most of the second hand dealers I deal with are actually quite reasonable, as opposed to "sand in the gearbox" merchants
Overall, was this brought in to stop the Del Boy traders of the world, or has this kind of warranty stuff existed for a while and I just havent noticed?
TheCarpetCleaner said:
When did this 3 month dealer warranty come in to play,
Not aware that it had?There is an assumption in the Sale of Goods Act that any fault that occurs within 6 months must have been present when the car was sold, unless the dealer can prove otherwise (reverse burden of proof) but it's been held that you do have to take account of the car's age and price paid - ie you can't insist on 6mths trouble-free motoring from a £200 banger.
no such thing as a warrenty as you put it. your getting confused with the sales of goods act. within 3 months you have to give the car back to be investigated and the dealer will asetain if the fsult was there before. things have to be taken into account. so if you bought a 200k car for a1/4 of its market value you will be expected to understand the price reflects it could be worn.
between 3-6 months the buyer has to prove the fault was there.
IT IS NOT COMPREHENSIVE
warrentys are insurance products which cover you for events in above which is paid in same way as when we make insurance claims...money in a pot n payouts for ppl who need to claim. claims do get rejected though.
id take a warrenty if you can. dont think the sales of goods act will protect you cos it does not mean ur safe, if ur lucky it ight but in these cases the buyer usually has to pay a contribution to the repairs.
between 3-6 months the buyer has to prove the fault was there.
IT IS NOT COMPREHENSIVE
warrentys are insurance products which cover you for events in above which is paid in same way as when we make insurance claims...money in a pot n payouts for ppl who need to claim. claims do get rejected though.
id take a warrenty if you can. dont think the sales of goods act will protect you cos it does not mean ur safe, if ur lucky it ight but in these cases the buyer usually has to pay a contribution to the repairs.
Exquisite said:
no such thing as a warrenty as you put it. your getting confused with the sales of goods act. within 3 months you have to give the car back to be investigated and the dealer will asetain if the fsult was there before. things have to be taken into account. so if you bought a 200k car for a1/4 of its market value you will be expected to understand the price reflects it could be worn.
Nope, it's 6 months for faults and it doesn't include fair wear and tear at all.Exquisite said:
no such thing as a warrenty as you put it. your getting confused with the sales of goods act. within 3 months you have to give the car back to be investigated and the dealer will asetain if the fsult was there before. things have to be taken into account. so if you bought a 200k car for a1/4 of its market value you will be expected to understand the price reflects it could be worn.
between 3-6 months the buyer has to prove the fault was there.
IT IS NOT COMPREHENSIVE
warrentys are insurance products which cover you for events in above which is paid in same way as when we make insurance claims...money in a pot n payouts for ppl who need to claim. claims do get rejected though.
id take a warrenty if you can. dont think the sales of goods act will protect you cos it does not mean ur safe, if ur lucky it ight but in these cases the buyer usually has to pay a contribution to the repairs.
All traders I have dealt with recently seem to do a 3 month engine and gearbox warranty, underwritten by the AA in the most recent case.between 3-6 months the buyer has to prove the fault was there.
IT IS NOT COMPREHENSIVE
warrentys are insurance products which cover you for events in above which is paid in same way as when we make insurance claims...money in a pot n payouts for ppl who need to claim. claims do get rejected though.
id take a warrenty if you can. dont think the sales of goods act will protect you cos it does not mean ur safe, if ur lucky it ight but in these cases the buyer usually has to pay a contribution to the repairs.
Having read through the docs it actually looks ok, not many exclusions relating to sudden and total engine failure or gearbox failure etc.
Obviously the car is checked and rechecked by me, and usually, for the type and class of car I am buying, I don't miss much. So the warranty to me acts as a backup for something that goes catastrophically wrong just after I buy the car that I could not have accounted for.
davidjpowell said:
The car I bought recently, the dealer told me that if I knocked him down he would not put aftermarket warranty on the car. Still don't understand this, as this leaves the entire risk on him rather than passed to a third party.
He's then banking on the fact that most buyers either don't know their rights or can't be bothered with the hassle of chasing him for it to be sorted.To get a serious fault resolved the buyer would eventually have to take him to court, many (most?) people haven't got the determination needed.
MrLou said:
davidjpowell said:
The car I bought recently, the dealer told me that if I knocked him down he would not put aftermarket warranty on the car. Still don't understand this, as this leaves the entire risk on him rather than passed to a third party.
He's then banking on the fact that most buyers either don't know their rights or can't be bothered with the hassle of chasing him for it to be sorted.To get a serious fault resolved the buyer would eventually have to take him to court, many (most?) people haven't got the determination needed.
Oh yes, it had 3 months AA 5* warranty which expressly prohibits overheating due to porous block or slipped liner so again, completely useless on a Disco.
Cost me £3k for a new engine and now runs sweet as a nut...which is what I must be because the total cost of a 2001 Disco was almost £9k
I console myself with the fact that at some point he will get his.
Deva Link said:
Nope, it's 6 months for faults and it doesn't include fair wear and tear at all.
I bought my girlfriend an '08 Toyota Auris with 30K miles on the clock from a car dealership 6 weeks ago,and over the past week or so, when pulling away,there seems to be a fair bit of judder before the clutch is fully engaged...I'm guessing the clutch is knackered,so am I right in thinking this isn't fair wear and tear? Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff