Is it just me that doesn't understand 'Rat Look'?
Is it just me that doesn't understand 'Rat Look'?
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Superhoop

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4,784 posts

210 months

Friday 29th October 2010
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Driving home from work the other day, I ending up following this.....



Now is it just me, or do they...

A) look like a complete pile of st, that any normal person would be embarrassed to drive/be seen dead in, and...

B) Scream 'please Mr Policeman, please pull me over, as my car looks unroadworthy'

I know the VW scene takes a bit of a bashing on here, but surely this is far worse?

Eviltad

1,320 posts

196 months

Friday 29th October 2010
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Thats funny.

I guess you must need a strong sense of humour to drive that. Clearly a pisstake.

hombrepaulo

1,319 posts

188 months

Friday 29th October 2010
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And it starts again.....

Daaaveee

915 posts

240 months

Friday 29th October 2010
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Eviltad said:
Thats funny.

I guess you must need a strong sense of humour to drive that. Clearly a pisstake.
I agree, its amusing.

Silent1

19,761 posts

252 months

Friday 29th October 2010
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It's even better when you see rusty plastic:

Mr Gear

9,416 posts

207 months

Friday 29th October 2010
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Eviltad said:
Thats funny.

I guess you must need a strong sense of humour to drive that. Clearly a pisstake.
Exactly. This is a car driven by an 19/20 year old, who realises it's a piece of st, and plays up to it instead of trying to hide it under spoilers and low profile tyres.

I don't mind it. I'd rather be stuck behind this in a traffic jam than a totally boring standard one.

Frederick

5,778 posts

237 months

Friday 29th October 2010
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The thing about rat look that's getting lost in translation a bit now, is that it used to be ratty looking but mechanically awesome cars. Now it's ratty looking and mechanically deathtrappy cars.

The amount of 'rat' cars I've heard of that have notched chassis with no strengthening to enable another inch to be chopped out of the springs, or the coilovers wound out until there's no tension on the sprint at full extension etc. is scary. Whenever I see one now I give them a massively wide berth - just in case. It's a shame cos something that looks crap but goes like a scalded cat is something that really floats my boat - but something with a badly stacked roof rack full of st, no suspension travel and questionable mechanics is a bit too worrysome for me so it's a case of "into third, and pass as quickly as possible!"

Yeah they're not all the same, and the ones that are done well are done really well, but for every "good" rat car, there are a legion of imitators who haven't maybe been as mechanically adept as their forebears...

Edited by Frederick on Friday 29th October 11:02

carlove

7,800 posts

184 months

Friday 29th October 2010
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What about a rat look Rover?

slipstream 1985

13,267 posts

196 months

Friday 29th October 2010
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its just st nothing else. not each to their own or everyone has different tastes or i respect what you like its just plain and simple st!

hombrepaulo

1,319 posts

188 months

Friday 29th October 2010
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^ arrogant tosser ^

Mr Gear

9,416 posts

207 months

Friday 29th October 2010
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slipstream 1985 said:
its just st nothing else. not each to their own or everyone has different tastes or i respect what you like its just plain and simple st!
That's the point though isn't it?

Making a Rover 400 "good" is an uphill struggle if ever there was one.

T25 Clive

23 posts

179 months

Friday 29th October 2010
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Hi there, been a lurker for a while, but thought I'd register to post on this thread :-).

I originally disliked the Rat Look quite alot (I'm in the VW scene :-)) and yes, those cars above do look pretty crap. However proper Rat look is not where someone has attempted to create the Rat look, but where the car/bus has just been left to weather its years.

My friend has a 63 Split, it was imported from Uruguay and was originally a taxi, the bodywork and interior hasn't been touched for 47 years whereas mechanically its been totally rebuilt (inc recently fitted turbo :-)), now he could have restored it and made it all shiny and nice, but that would have completely lost the character and history of the bus, this is the part of the Rat scene that I do like, cars/buses that are still on the road (albeit safe/MOT'd) but showing their age.



^ was taken in Ninove (Belgium) after driving all the way from Plymouth :-)

Colonial

13,553 posts

222 months

Friday 29th October 2010
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slipstream 1985 said:
its just st nothing else. not each to their own or everyone has different tastes or i respect what you like its just plain and simple st!
In your opinion.

Their money. Their choice. Simple.

I'm not arrogant enough to demand that people conform to what I think is acceptable.

2 Wycked

2,335 posts

248 months

Friday 29th October 2010
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Rat look has certainly moved on since my 309. I think as a rule it is done purely by people who know they drive a terrible car so they play up to it, although there are exceptions that take it very seriously indeed.

Much like any car "scene" to be honest.


Superhoop

Original Poster:

4,784 posts

210 months

Friday 29th October 2010
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T25 Clive said:
Hi there, been a lurker for a while, but thought I'd register to post on this thread :-).

I originally disliked the Rat Look quite alot (I'm in the VW scene :-)) and yes, those cars above do look pretty crap. However proper Rat look is not where someone has attempted to create the Rat look, but where the car/bus has just been left to weather its years.

My friend has a 63 Split, it was imported from Uruguay and was originally a taxi, the bodywork and interior hasn't been touched for 47 years whereas mechanically its been totally rebuilt (inc recently fitted turbo :-)), now he could have restored it and made it all shiny and nice, but that would have completely lost the character and history of the bus, this is the part of the Rat scene that I do like, cars/buses that are still on the road (albeit safe/MOT'd) but showing their age.



^ was taken in Ninove (Belgium) after driving all the way from Plymouth :-)
Now this type of Rat Look I get - Externally original, but mechanically sound.

It's the deliberately rusted, painted badly, tat stuck all over the roof rack, and chains and ropes hanging off everything that it's possible to hang a chain or rope off that I just don't get

Wadeski

8,695 posts

230 months

Friday 29th October 2010
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i think it can look really cool. a Rat look corsa tends to look crap because its a corsa, which is hard to make look good in ANY style.

however, rat-look American muscle, classic BMWs or 70s Japanese stuff can look immense: all Mad Max meets surf wagon meets salt-flat racer.

T25 Clive

23 posts

179 months

Friday 29th October 2010
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That picture probably didn't prove my point that well :-) as we gave it a quick rattle can spray (kept getting stopped by the police), but this was it when it arrived, filler, dents dinks and all - loads of history :-) (and before the mechanical rebuild)


MoBeanz

135 posts

187 months

Friday 29th October 2010
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Chill out guys.

There are lots of people out there that would turn their noses up at some 'flash c**t in a Ferrari' or 'some hairdresser in a Mazda'. Who gives a st?!? Just worry about your own ride.

There's 'debate' and then there's hating. Truth is, being a hater is never flattering.

al1991

4,552 posts

197 months

Friday 29th October 2010
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I do think some of the VAG fanboys cars look ok.

But the rat look I don't get.

ewenm

28,506 posts

262 months

Friday 29th October 2010
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What's not to understand? Some people like their cars to look like that. Fair enough, doesn't take much understanding. Now, liking rat look is a completely different matter, each to their own.