Nissan Juke and snow
Discussion
Really boring I know but Mrs M bought a Nissan Juke and it (Daisy) has spent the last 2 weeks in the garage because we couldn't get it up the drive---compacted snow/ice.
She got it on the assumption that the traction control system would do the biz.
Her last car was a Mini Cooper(BMW) and that was brilliant in snow and ice.
We spoke to another local Juke owner recently who had no problems in these conditions.
Question--does the Juke have an active traction control system that alters the drive to each wheel (it's front wheel drive) or is it passive and only reduces engine power?
Or is our traction system not working?
I've lived in NE Scotland for 30 years and have driven in snow often so no foot to the floor in first gear--I know how to do it but this car is pants. The thing just spins the bloody wheels and goes nowhere.
Any useful comments and info appreciated.
She got it on the assumption that the traction control system would do the biz.
Her last car was a Mini Cooper(BMW) and that was brilliant in snow and ice.
We spoke to another local Juke owner recently who had no problems in these conditions.
Question--does the Juke have an active traction control system that alters the drive to each wheel (it's front wheel drive) or is it passive and only reduces engine power?
Or is our traction system not working?
I've lived in NE Scotland for 30 years and have driven in snow often so no foot to the floor in first gear--I know how to do it but this car is pants. The thing just spins the bloody wheels and goes nowhere.
Any useful comments and info appreciated.
ks in the snow - including from a chap who works in a Nissan dealer selling them..The Crack Fox said:
You've called the car Daisy ? Giving cars a name is the gayest thing on earth !
Anyhoo, tyres choice is a big thing but I suspect the Juke is your typical over-styled and under-engineered school run motor as opposed to a pukka 4x4.
You don't remember Daisy Duke out of 'The Dukes of Hazzard' TV series then!!!Anyhoo, tyres choice is a big thing but I suspect the Juke is your typical over-styled and under-engineered school run motor as opposed to a pukka 4x4.
Thanks for the replies.
I'm hoping to get Qatracs fitted tomorrow---I've got them on my Astra and they are brilliant.
Anyone know what Anti-skid system the Duke uses?
Edited by Tim M DB7V on Monday 13th December 21:26
What was the problem, was the traction control stopping you from moving?
I had this due to overly invasive traction control (ie rubbish cheap system that cuts the power so much you cant go) with a smart for two that got stuck in its own snow tracks, as soon as power was applied and wheel spin started the system cut power - then stuck, and no button to switch it off.
Or could just be wide low profile tyres, skinny knobbly tyres is what you need!
Buy some winter tyres for the front.
I had this due to overly invasive traction control (ie rubbish cheap system that cuts the power so much you cant go) with a smart for two that got stuck in its own snow tracks, as soon as power was applied and wheel spin started the system cut power - then stuck, and no button to switch it off.
Or could just be wide low profile tyres, skinny knobbly tyres is what you need!
Buy some winter tyres for the front.
Tim M DB7V said:
The Crack Fox said:
You've called the car Daisy ? Giving cars a name is the gayest thing on earth !
Anyhoo, tyres choice is a big thing but I suspect the Juke is your typical over-styled and under-engineered school run motor as opposed to a pukka 4x4.
You don't remember Daisy Duke out of 'The Dukes of Hazzard' TV series then!!!Anyhoo, tyres choice is a big thing but I suspect the Juke is your typical over-styled and under-engineered school run motor as opposed to a pukka 4x4.
Thanks for the replies.
I'm hoping to get Qatracs fitted tomorrow---I've got them on my Astra and they are brilliant.
Anyone know what Anti-skid system the Duke uses?
Edited by Tim M DB7V on Monday 13th December 21:26
Juke has traction control but it can be turned off. The AWD version has two AWD settings. The "AWD" setting distributes torque evenly to all wheels (25% to each) and when slippage occurs the car diverts torque to wheels getting more grip. It will not divert all power off of a slipping wheel, nor will it apply the brakes to a slipping wheel. With traction control off it should spin all four tires as much as you'd like.
Juke also has a torque vectored AWD setting (AWD-V). This setting allows for better maneuvering on pavement by allowing 100% of rear torque (50% of total torque) to be put on the outside rear wheel in a turn. AWD-V isn't meant for snow and AWD isn't meant for the streets.
The Juke distributes torque via electronically controlled wet-clutch packs on the rear axle and not with viscous couplings. The Juke's AWD is generally much better than the one's that come in most cars, who's AWD systems are often mislabeled or poorly described. The Juke's AWD is more similar to S-AWC or Haldex systems. Been working great for me.
The only explanation is crappy OEM tires. Also, if there is no traction to be had on an incline (as on ice), no AWD system from any manufacturer is going to get you up that hill. Sorry.
Juke also has a torque vectored AWD setting (AWD-V). This setting allows for better maneuvering on pavement by allowing 100% of rear torque (50% of total torque) to be put on the outside rear wheel in a turn. AWD-V isn't meant for snow and AWD isn't meant for the streets.
The Juke distributes torque via electronically controlled wet-clutch packs on the rear axle and not with viscous couplings. The Juke's AWD is generally much better than the one's that come in most cars, who's AWD systems are often mislabeled or poorly described. The Juke's AWD is more similar to S-AWC or Haldex systems. Been working great for me.
The only explanation is crappy OEM tires. Also, if there is no traction to be had on an incline (as on ice), no AWD system from any manufacturer is going to get you up that hill. Sorry.
Edited by JukieMcJukerson on Tuesday 14th December 01:23
JukieMcJukerson said:
Juke has traction control but it can be turned off. The AWD version has two AWD settings. The "AWD" setting distributes torque evenly to all wheels (25% to each) and when slippage occurs the car diverts torque to wheels getting more grip. It will not divert all power off of a slipping wheel, nor will it apply the brakes to a slipping wheel. With traction control off it should spin all four tires as much as you'd like.
Juke also has a torque vectored AWD setting (AWD-V). This setting allows for better maneuvering on pavement by allowing 100% of rear torque (50% of total torque) to be put on the outside rear wheel in a turn. AWD-V isn't meant for snow and AWD isn't meant for the streets.
The Juke distributes torque via electronically controlled wet-clutch packs on the rear axle and not with viscous couplings. The Juke's AWD is generally much better than the one's that come in most cars, who's AWD systems are often mislabeled or poorly described. The Juke's AWD is more similar to S-AWC or Haldex systems. Been working great for me.
The only explanation is crappy OEM tires. Also, if there is no traction to be had on an incline (as on ice), no AWD system on the market is going to get you up that hill. Sorry.
Lovely, detailed explanation, accept it's not the AWD version. Juke also has a torque vectored AWD setting (AWD-V). This setting allows for better maneuvering on pavement by allowing 100% of rear torque (50% of total torque) to be put on the outside rear wheel in a turn. AWD-V isn't meant for snow and AWD isn't meant for the streets.
The Juke distributes torque via electronically controlled wet-clutch packs on the rear axle and not with viscous couplings. The Juke's AWD is generally much better than the one's that come in most cars, who's AWD systems are often mislabeled or poorly described. The Juke's AWD is more similar to S-AWC or Haldex systems. Been working great for me.
The only explanation is crappy OEM tires. Also, if there is no traction to be had on an incline (as on ice), no AWD system on the market is going to get you up that hill. Sorry.
Luke. said:
Lovely, detailed explanation, accept it's not the AWD version.
Forgive me. I'm quick to defend our Juke's honor. Best car we've ever had and the excellent traction technology was a big selling point for us.Only one thing for it then, actual snow tires and not all-season ones. Maybe he could get away with a set of Continental ExtemeContact all-season tires. They seem to be biased more towards winter driving.
Edited by JukieMcJukerson on Tuesday 14th December 01:38
Edited by JukieMcJukerson on Tuesday 14th December 01:39
JukieMcJukerson said:
Juke has traction control but it can be turned off. The AWD version has two AWD settings. The "AWD" setting distributes torque evenly to all wheels (25% to each) and when slippage occurs the car diverts torque to wheels getting more grip. It will not divert all power off of a slipping wheel, nor will it apply the brakes to a slipping wheel. With traction control off it should spin all four tires as much as you'd like.
Juke also has a torque vectored AWD setting (AWD-V). This setting allows for better maneuvering on pavement by allowing 100% of rear torque (50% of total torque) to be put on the outside rear wheel in a turn. AWD-V isn't meant for snow and AWD isn't meant for the streets.
The Juke distributes torque via electronically controlled wet-clutch packs on the rear axle and not with viscous couplings. The Juke's AWD is generally much better than the one's that come in most cars, who's AWD systems are often mislabeled or poorly described. The Juke's AWD is more similar to S-AWC or Haldex systems. Been working great for me.
The only explanation is crappy OEM tires. Also, if there is no traction to be had on an incline (as on ice), no AWD system from any manufacturer is going to get you up that hill. Sorry.
Juke also has a torque vectored AWD setting (AWD-V). This setting allows for better maneuvering on pavement by allowing 100% of rear torque (50% of total torque) to be put on the outside rear wheel in a turn. AWD-V isn't meant for snow and AWD isn't meant for the streets.
The Juke distributes torque via electronically controlled wet-clutch packs on the rear axle and not with viscous couplings. The Juke's AWD is generally much better than the one's that come in most cars, who's AWD systems are often mislabeled or poorly described. The Juke's AWD is more similar to S-AWC or Haldex systems. Been working great for me.
The only explanation is crappy OEM tires. Also, if there is no traction to be had on an incline (as on ice), no AWD system from any manufacturer is going to get you up that hill. Sorry.
Edited by JukieMcJukerson on Tuesday 14th December 01:23
I wonder if Jukie is really one of these people?. 
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