Why hate eco drivers??
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Ive never understood this odd mindset - oh you drive a diesel... your tight etc likewise Hybrids.
Well shouldnt real petrol heds be thanking those who do so that the reserves of oil last longer than if everyone had 2ltr petrols.
For me I think great highly efficient cars for mundne duties - commuting family trips then very high performance engines for the special ocasions.
Too often do I read I get bored with my cars need to change them etc... well maybe thats as its your only car and you use it all the timethu reducing the specialness.
Well shouldnt real petrol heds be thanking those who do so that the reserves of oil last longer than if everyone had 2ltr petrols.
For me I think great highly efficient cars for mundne duties - commuting family trips then very high performance engines for the special ocasions.
Too often do I read I get bored with my cars need to change them etc... well maybe thats as its your only car and you use it all the timethu reducing the specialness.
John D. said:
I hate being engulfed in clouds of soot when stuck behind one for a start.
WellI dont get that on a daily basis - frankly I may see the odd one generally on the weekend from memory. Clearly any new TDI with a DPF by default will have no smog and the exhaust also will be totally clean - like mine.I do agree the aroma isnt pleasant but I put the air circulation on the correct setting so get none of it.
Welshbeef said:
Ive never understood this odd mindset - oh you drive a diesel... your tight etc likewise Hybrids.
Well shouldnt real petrol heds be thanking those who do so that the reserves of oil last longer than if everyone had 2ltr petrols.
For me I think great highly efficient cars for mundne duties - commuting family trips then very high performance engines for the special ocasions.
Too often do I read I get bored with my cars need to change them etc... well maybe thats as its your only car and you use it all the timethu reducing the specialness.
Are you saving the internet's dwindling letter resources for us all?Well shouldnt real petrol heds be thanking those who do so that the reserves of oil last longer than if everyone had 2ltr petrols.
For me I think great highly efficient cars for mundne duties - commuting family trips then very high performance engines for the special ocasions.
Too often do I read I get bored with my cars need to change them etc... well maybe thats as its your only car and you use it all the timethu reducing the specialness.
Welshbeef said:
Ive never understood this odd mindset - oh you drive a diesel... your tight etc likewise Hybrids.
Hybrids are the more hypocritical motorist - if the car is that bad, then f**k off and walk/get the bus.Diesels are for those of us who have a V8 in the other car, so splitting the fuel use.
Welshbeef said:
Clearly any new TDI with a DPF by default will have no smog and the exhaust also will be totally clean - like mine.
DPF's aren't 100% efficient, they just reduce the smoke. The 335d I had last year clearly smoked when you nailed it through the gears - people behind you at night can always tell when you're trying.As for saving the earth's resources, well more crude oil is required to make a given unit of diesel than petrol so it all evens out in the end.
NB - I own two petrols and a diesel so I'm not anti-diesel, I just know where they are appropriate!
why?
try being stuck behind these cretins as they pull away from lights/junctions with only the lightest use of the throttle, think 0-30 in 15 seconds.
cretins.
Even worse if they are smug about the fact they have bought a Pious and tell you how much they are saving the environment, oh really?
try being stuck behind these cretins as they pull away from lights/junctions with only the lightest use of the throttle, think 0-30 in 15 seconds.
cretins.
Even worse if they are smug about the fact they have bought a Pious and tell you how much they are saving the environment, oh really?
Most Priuses (Prii?) are company cars these days - I think a Prius TSpirit is about £100 / month less to tax than the average TDI repmobile.
I've test driven both the old and new and can report back that they do 0-30 very quickly. But struggle after that.
Might have to try an Audi TDI with the CVT box next - that was one of the redeeming features of the Prius - that instant acceleration away from the lights means you can catch a lot of other drivers sleeping.
I've test driven both the old and new and can report back that they do 0-30 very quickly. But struggle after that.
Might have to try an Audi TDI with the CVT box next - that was one of the redeeming features of the Prius - that instant acceleration away from the lights means you can catch a lot of other drivers sleeping.
Welshbeef said:
Well shouldnt real petrol heds be thanking those who do so that the reserves of oil last longer than if everyone had 2ltr petrols.
Only the most hardened eco-fool still believes the peak oil rubbish that was spouted 30 years ago. There's more than enough oil to last hundreds of years, way longer than petrol/diesel cars will be around for.alock said:
Welshbeef said:
Well shouldnt real petrol heds be thanking those who do so that the reserves of oil last longer than if everyone had 2ltr petrols.
Only the most hardened eco-fool still believes the peak oil rubbish that was spouted 30 years ago. There's more than enough oil to last hundreds of years, way longer than petrol/diesel cars will be around for.Off topic a bit.
I'd love an M5 for the commute or RS6 old shape truely would but it would cost easily twice as much to fuel and I'd say if I used it every day doing best part of 20k a year Id know my garage attendant very well and I'd fear I'd just get used to it's power so the specialness of it wouldn't be there.
Ac cobra 427ci on the other hand would never tire of hmmm v8 brum brum faster than a mc F1 0-100-0 only the a one off lm f1 beat it in 1997 or 99. That's an amazing record for one of the most brutally savage looking cars.
Envy.
FreeLitres said:
Welshbeef said:
Well shouldnt real petrol heds be thanking those who do so that the reserves of oil last longer than if everyone had 2ltr petrols.
2ltr petrols ARE ecoboxes as far as I'm concerned! 
Did you know the biggest container ships in the world use more oil per day then you could possibly use in a lifetime of driving?
Also, the general process for making the batterys for hybrid cars involves mining metal out the ground causing large amounts of dust and destruction to the earth, shipping it in said ships to china for refinement, and manufacturing into batterys, then shipping them back to wherever the cars going to be made?
Makes you realise anything you do to save the environment is a bit pointless really.
And just for the engineering massive, here's a website of some bits from one of them ship engines. Massive!
http://people.bath.ac.uk/ccsshb/12cyl/index.html.o
Also, the general process for making the batterys for hybrid cars involves mining metal out the ground causing large amounts of dust and destruction to the earth, shipping it in said ships to china for refinement, and manufacturing into batterys, then shipping them back to wherever the cars going to be made?
Makes you realise anything you do to save the environment is a bit pointless really.
And just for the engineering massive, here's a website of some bits from one of them ship engines. Massive!
http://people.bath.ac.uk/ccsshb/12cyl/index.html.o
Edited by maniac0796 on Monday 10th January 23:04
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