Focus ST or Civic Type R?
Discussion
I've been considering these along with a LCR.
Seems to be the type r for fun & revs. But a little less easy to drive long distances daily.
The lcr is more comfy& torqey but not as much fun when flat out. Also the vag 1.8t has some niggles.
I think the st is also more of a comfy daily and more grunty then the lcr. But maybe less fun still in the twisties?
Depends what you want out of it.
I'm tempted by the civic as I don't do much milage and want something really reliable and fun but practical to chuck about.
Seems to be the type r for fun & revs. But a little less easy to drive long distances daily.
The lcr is more comfy& torqey but not as much fun when flat out. Also the vag 1.8t has some niggles.
I think the st is also more of a comfy daily and more grunty then the lcr. But maybe less fun still in the twisties?
Depends what you want out of it.
I'm tempted by the civic as I don't do much milage and want something really reliable and fun but practical to chuck about.
Edited by browna on Saturday 5th February 23:23
Oh right I assumed the civic was a just more tuned version on the 1.8 in the rest of the range. I was looking for a way to differentiate between the 2000-2005 and 2007+ type R's. The older seems to be far more in budget. I don't know the EP codes that get mentioned.
I think I would take the ST though as I would hav ethought the lazier power delivery makes it more real world fast than having to rev a vtec.
I think I would take the ST though as I would hav ethought the lazier power delivery makes it more real world fast than having to rev a vtec.
OP, judging from the above, I sense this thread, like many others, is going to be filled with comments from people who've never owned or probably even driven either of the cars you're asking about.
I forgot to mention before, I had an ST-3 on loan for a few days so I've an idea of what they're like also.
I forgot to mention before, I had an ST-3 on loan for a few days so I've an idea of what they're like also.
My bro has an ST - great car but after 60k miles it was very rattly - I guess the Type R would be better built and, unless you're ragging the life out of it, the Type R will be more economical.
I prefer turbos to highly strung NA, I've had 2 MK5 Golf Gti's and an Audi TT and a MK1 Leon Cupra recently, all of which I loved, but between a Focus ST and a Type R, I'd get a £6k Civic, but not the one they just stopped making - I test drove both over the years but didn't like the latest one at all - too stiff and revy and heavy feeling.
I prefer turbos to highly strung NA, I've had 2 MK5 Golf Gti's and an Audi TT and a MK1 Leon Cupra recently, all of which I loved, but between a Focus ST and a Type R, I'd get a £6k Civic, but not the one they just stopped making - I test drove both over the years but didn't like the latest one at all - too stiff and revy and heavy feeling.
Buzz word said:
Oh right I assumed the civic was a just more tuned version on the 1.8 in the rest of the range. I was looking for a way to differentiate between the 2000-2005 and 2007+ type R's. The older seems to be far more in budget. I don't know the EP codes that get mentioned.
I think I would take the ST though as I would hav ethought the lazier power delivery makes it more real world fast than having to rev a vtec.
EP3 is what's commonly referred to as a "bread van" FN2 is the newer less good pointy one with the triangle shaped exhaustsI think I would take the ST though as I would hav ethought the lazier power delivery makes it more real world fast than having to rev a vtec.
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