Diesel car advice

[Sunglasses Ron]

I'm looking at replacing my current car for something more economical.

Having never owned or even contemplated owning a diesel, I'm not too sure what I should be looking for.

I will have a budget of around £1000 (not much, I know). Can anyone suggest some cars that have good reliable engines, are cheap to tax/insure.

Thanks.

[TAHodgson]

Punto 1.9, Peugeot 306 D Turbo/HDi, older golfs. None of which will exactly fill you with excitement, but are economical and cheap!

[steve6304]

I sort of agree with the previous reply, I would say that older MK3 golf would be a good bet, or even a passat or bora.

[10AE]

http://pistonheads.com/xforums/topic.asp?h=0&f...

[philoldsmobile]

modern diesels normally have dual mass flywheels, check them carefully (rattles on startup and shutdown, driveline snatch and clutch judder) as replacement of the flywheel and clutch can easily run to £1000

[anonymous-user]

philoldsmobile said:

modern diesels normally have dual mass flywheels, check them carefully (rattles on startup and shutdown, driveline snatch and clutch judder) as replacement of the flywheel and clutch can easily run to £1000

but they last longer + can be changed to solid if required

Edited by anonymous-user on Wednesday 9th February 20:05

Edited by anonymous-user on Wednesday 9th February 20:05

[anonymous-user]

buy a 106 diesel for about 600 quids and spend 400 on nos...

[philoldsmobile]

The Spruce Goose said:

but they last longer

the clutch doesn't, diesels are very hard on them, ditto flywheels..

[anonymous-user]

philoldsmobile said:

the clutch doesn't, diesels are very hard on them, ditto flywheels..

but that is why they use dual mass for smoother power transfer..mine still on original at 95 K, slight slippage thou...

[philoldsmobile]

black pipebandit said:

but that is why they use dual mass for smoother power transfer..

making them a wearing / consumable component.

the higher torque of diesels make the job even harder. the inherent roughness of diesels also contributes to flywheel wear - exactly why they have them to start with.

[Pat H]

philoldsmobile said:

The Spruce Goose said:

but they last longer

the clutch doesn't, diesels are very hard on them, ditto flywheels..

17,000 miles, in the case of my wife's Focus TDCi.

£700 to fix.

TDs are still smelly, clattery old knackers with narrow power bands.

The only decent one I have driven was a 1993 VX Nova 1.5TD, which was nippy and would do over 60mpg on a run.

For £1000, I'd rather have a petrol engined K11 Micra.

[anonymous-user]

philoldsmobile said:

making them a wearing / consumable component.

the higher torque of diesels make the job even harder. the inherent roughness of diesels also contributes to flywheel wear - exactly why they have them to start with.

but modern diesels need duelmass.. Would you prefer solid then? I am happy with dual and a new clutch flywheel is like a cambelt/timing job..once every few years..

At this price more likely something else goes wrong?

do 306 hdi's have dual mass?

[Pat H]

black pipebandit said:

but modern diesels need duelmass.. Would you prefer solid then? I am happy with dual and a new clutch flywheel is like a cambelt/timing job..once every few years..

I'll take the petrol engined car with a camchain and a solid flywheel.

Especially if I only had £1000 to spend on the car.

[anonymous-user]

Pat H said:

17,000 miles, in the case of my wife's Focus TDCi.

£700 to fix.

TDs are still smelly, clattery old knackers with narrow power bands.

.

you know what I prefer that to petrols, I like it and suits lazier driving..

[fluffnik]

Sunglasses Ron said:

Having never owned or even contemplated owning a diesel, I'm not too sure what I should be looking for.

A large capacity V8, or perhaps V12. Turbo sixes just ain't the same...


Oh.

[Pat H]

black pipebandit said:

you know what I prefer that to petrols, I like it and suits lazier driving..

If my wife's Focus had an auto box, then it would be a decent car.

The six speed manual needs constant work and the DMFs are a real problem.

[anonymous-user]

Pat H said:

If my wife's Focus had an auto box, then it would be a decent car.

The six speed manual needs constant work and the DMFs are a real problem.

I could say that is a ford thing, but it is a PSA thing too.

tbh diesels are a waste of money nowadays due the extra costs and minimal mileage increase in non motorway driving against petrols.. but the blocks in older simple engines will last a long time..

The best diesel to get is a non turbo and it will run for ever but will be st to drive..