Taking ownership of abandoned vehicle
Taking ownership of abandoned vehicle
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TrumpyTriple

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356 posts

240 months

Sunday 13th February 2011
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Was out on the pushbike yesterday (still recovering! yikes) and spotted an old Commer pickup dumped in the middle of nowhere in a dip between two fields with loads of other farmers crap. It has obviously been there for 20 or so years with all the other stuff and the pickup itself is knackered, but it has a decent registration number on it 3 digit/number.

I'm not trying to take ownership of someones pride and joy, but would like to get "theoretical" ownership and then remove the reg. to use myself? I've done a search on here, but most of the stuff I found related to abandoned cars that people are trying to "acquire".

beer

ps. no TVR jokes thanks hehe


TooLateForAName

4,888 posts

200 months

Sunday 13th February 2011
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I'm fairly sure that it needs to have an mot before you can xfr the plate.

lordlee

3,137 posts

261 months

Sunday 13th February 2011
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You will have to get an MOT on the van before you can take the reg off it.

TrumpyTriple

Original Poster:

356 posts

240 months

Sunday 13th February 2011
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Ahh balls, who makes up these silly rules!

soad

34,021 posts

192 months

Sunday 13th February 2011
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No pics of your find? Most disappointing...even if it's full of rust

Guyr

2,463 posts

298 months

Sunday 13th February 2011
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There's no way to acquire the reg without acquiring the car.

The only way to legally get the car is to buy it from the existing owner or to have a claim that allows you to legally seize it (such as it was left on your land and you have warned the owner it will be seized to cover storage etc). If you cannot contact the owner and have no legitimate claim (sounds like you don't) then you are basically saying 'how can I fraudulently claim the car is mine?'

You could do this in practive quite easily by applying for a new V5 and the DVLA would write to the existing registered owner to confirm it had been sold. Likely they'd get no reply, so they'd transfer it to you. Then you would have to MOT the car (that'll be fun) and buy car tax (also needed for transfer). Of course this is all illegal, since you would be lying, so it's clear 'Obtaining property by deception' charge if anyone ever found out, the property being the reg plate. The penalty is up to 10 years in prison FYI.




Eggman

1,253 posts

227 months

Sunday 13th February 2011
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TrumpyTriple said:
with loads of other farmers crap
This is the key bit - it's the farmer's crap. Not your crap.

What would you say if somebody took ownership of 'abandoned' items from your garden?

FranKinFezza

1,073 posts

195 months

Sunday 13th February 2011
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As i understand it a lot of those older plates we not transferable either
so i would find out if you can actually transfer that reg before you
do anything else.

*Al*

3,830 posts

238 months

Sunday 13th February 2011
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Remember if it was 'that' easy it would have been gone long before you've considered it! Forget it.

Chiswickboy

549 posts

204 months

Sunday 13th February 2011
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TooLateForAName said:
I'm fairly sure that it needs to have an mot before you can xfr the plate.
Unless the rules have changed recently, you do not need an MOT for a plate transfer. What you need is a valid Tax Disc. However, if there is no tax disk then you will need an MOT (and insurance) to get a tax disc.




TrumpyTriple

Original Poster:

356 posts

240 months

Sunday 13th February 2011
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Guyr said:
'Obtaining property by deception' charge if anyone ever found out, the property being the reg plate. The penalty is up to 10 years in prison FYI
Easy tiger! soapbox

The van has obviously been dumped in the middle of nowhere years ago, more than a mile from the nearest farm/road. Obviously if I was interested I would seek out the owner of the land..... my father lives in Devon, so I know how often farmers bury unwanted stuff in holes in the ground wink

25 miles of this



surprising what you find in the middlle of nowhere idea


SlimRick

2,267 posts

181 months

Sunday 13th February 2011
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Gonna take a lenient MOT man to put a ticket on that! biggrin

Theoldfm

400 posts

203 months

Sunday 13th February 2011
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Pump the tyres up, a bit of T-Cut and I'm sure it would fly through an MOT. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm