McLaren MP4-12C vs McLaren F1 - If you had the choice...?
McLaren MP4-12C vs McLaren F1 - If you had the choice...?
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g3org3y

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21,912 posts

212 months

Thursday 17th February 2011
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Which would you choose?

We've heard all about the new McLaren, in isolation and versus the 458 and on a face of things, it sounds like a stunning achievement. However, how would it compare to the 'gold standard'?

New technological masterpiece powered by a twin turbo 3.8 litre V8


Or 'old skool' n/a V12 with no electronic traction aids


Perhaps given the cost (new and current) of each, the comparison is very much hypothetical (F1 dwarfing the 12C) and one may consider this an unfair comparison. However, one car epitomises the new digital age of the supercar, whereas the other is very much analogue (no t/c, no ABS etc).

Which would be quicker? Which would be more rewarding to drive? Which would stir the soul? Which would you choose?

(Incidentally, I would have done this as a poll but I couldn't find the option to do so when starting the thread - apologies)

CraigyMc

18,045 posts

257 months

Thursday 17th February 2011
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Anyone writing MP4/12C should be banned from PH immediately.

It's not that the MP4/12C is a bad car, quite the opposite. It's that the F1 is a great car.

Nomes

54 posts

202 months

Thursday 17th February 2011
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Interesting question!
Even though the F1 is (and will remain) of greater historical significance, I think if given the choice I would get more enjoyment from the newer MP4-12C given that its capabilities seem to be more accessible. Furthermore, even though the F1 is lauded for being a great 'analogue' supercar, most of the roadtests I have read appear to suggest that once you get past the car's aura and performance it is actually not as good a drivers car as you may imagine. With my imaginary multi-millions in the bank, the MP4-12C gets my vote

AreseV6

241 posts

188 months

Thursday 17th February 2011
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F1 no contest the MP4 just leaves me cold for some reason

jonno990

420 posts

199 months

Thursday 17th February 2011
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Hopefully Mclaren will sell enough mp4's to fund another no compromise, iconic, world beating supercar.
Even if the used value of the F1 was similar to a new mp4 I think it would still be 100% votes for F1, regardless of what lap times we're all expecting.

RobboC

1,692 posts

282 months

Thursday 17th February 2011
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No contest! F1 everytime.


pits

6,625 posts

211 months

Thursday 17th February 2011
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Hmmmm Iconic previous worlds fastest production car record holder and the thing that wet dreams are made of, or something looks like an even uglier Evora.

F1 please.

PhillipM

6,537 posts

210 months

Thursday 17th February 2011
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F1.

Don't even need to think about it.

Psimpson7

1,071 posts

262 months

Thursday 17th February 2011
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I'm going to go the other way here. While I don't really like either that much, I dislike the F1 more, and have never ever seen the attraction of it, or why people get so excited about them.

I'd take the new one.

Cheers!

caffeine

1,021 posts

211 months

Thursday 17th February 2011
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yes

F1, no contest.

Ask this question again when McLaren have launched their new range-topping supercar and it may be a closer result. Even then, it's going to take one helluva car to oust the F1 from the wish list of many.

Egg Chaser

4,954 posts

188 months

Thursday 17th February 2011
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F1, without a doubt.

Mr Sparkle

1,933 posts

191 months

Thursday 17th February 2011
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Want both but will have the F1 for the engine and gear box.

It seems odd that the mid engined F1 doesn't need any rear quarter intakes/ducts.

Patrick Bateman

12,917 posts

195 months

Thursday 17th February 2011
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AreseV6 said:
F1 no contest the MP4 just leaves me cold for some reason
You've driven it?

AreseV6

241 posts

188 months

Thursday 17th February 2011
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Patrick Bateman said:
You've driven it?
Did I say I had ?

ESOG

1,705 posts

179 months

Thursday 17th February 2011
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Here's another one for the F1. I remember when I firt saw that the driver sat in the middle, I always thought that was such a cool design. Remember when mr bean crashed his in real life? What's his real name again, rowen atlkins or the likes?

Here's a question for you;

Bugatti EB110 or Jaguar XJ220? now that is a tough call! I had a dream last night that I was driving next to a silver XJ220. That would be a tough call for me. I absolutely love both of them. oddly, I've never seen either in the flesh. They never $ade it to the NY auto show which is the only place I reckon I would have ever got a chance to see them in the flesh. I've actually seen the same F40 3 times when I was younger driving on the same side of the road as me. I tried so hard to keep up in my toyota camry at the time. The F40 was the first model car I ever put together.

How abut this one. Which would you rather have;

Ferrari F40 - Bugatti EB110 - Jaguar XJ220. That would be I think the toughest choice ever to make.

Has anyone happen to catch that article either december or january issue of I think (but am not too sure) automobile magazine. They had a Bugatti history article a few pages long where they compared the EB110 to the Veryon and said that the EB110 surprisingly wasn't almost identical to lap times of the Veryon at the Ring I think it was.



ESOG

1,705 posts

179 months

Thursday 17th February 2011
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Here's another one for the F1. I remember when I firt saw that the driver sat in the middle, I always thought that was such a cool design. Remember when mr bean crashed his in real life? What's his real name again, rowen atlkins or the likes?

Here's a question for you;

Bugatti EB110 or Jaguar XJ220? now that is a tough call! I had a dream last night that I was driving next to a silver XJ220. That would be a tough call for me. I absolutely love both of them. oddly, I've never seen either in the flesh. They never $ade it to the NY auto show which is the only place I reckon I would have ever got a chance to see them in the flesh. I've actually seen the same F40 3 times when I was younger driving on the same side of the road as me. I tried so hard to keep up in my toyota camry at the time. The F40 was the first model car I ever put together.

How abut this one. Which would you rather have;

Ferrari F40 - Bugatti EB110 - Jaguar XJ220. That would be I think the toughest choice ever to make.

Has anyone happen to catch that article either december or january issue of I think (but am not too sure) automobile magazine. They had a Bugatti history article a few pages long where they compared the EB110 to the Veryon and said that the EB110 surprisingly wasn't almost identical to lap times of the Veryon at the Ring I think it was.



Tycho

12,091 posts

294 months

Thursday 17th February 2011
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ESOG said:
Here's a question for you;

Ferrari F40 - Bugatti EB110 - Jaguar XJ220. That would be I think the toughest choice ever to make.
F40, no question.


The original question: F1 without any hesitation.

andy74b

832 posts

248 months

Thursday 17th February 2011
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Has to be both.

F1 for special occassions and the MP4 for everyday.

Gun

13,432 posts

239 months

Thursday 17th February 2011
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For the OP question it has to be the F1, the 12C will be a great car but the F1 is in a different league, my all time favourite car.


ESOG said:
Here's a question for you;

Ferrari F40 - Bugatti EB110 - Jaguar XJ220
This is more tricky, I'm torn between the F40 and EB110 but I think I'd go for the Bugatti.

k-ink

9,070 posts

200 months

Thursday 17th February 2011
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MP4 and the change. Easy