Is it reasonable to ask for a loaner in this case ?
Is it reasonable to ask for a loaner in this case ?
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anonymous-user

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70 months

Tuesday 22nd February 2011
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edo

16,699 posts

281 months

Tuesday 22nd February 2011
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What do you have in writing, and/or on the order?

Which manufacturer. No harm in asking if they have made promises they are no longer able to meet.

Muzzer

3,814 posts

237 months

Tuesday 22nd February 2011
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If they've told you that you had to take delivery by the end of the month and then, one week before that deadline, told you the car won't be ready then they should absolutely provide you with other transport.

Zod

35,295 posts

274 months

Tuesday 22nd February 2011
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I was told pretty clearly that if my car didn't arrive before the VAT increase took effect, then unfortunately I'd have to pay it. Fortunately the car arrived on 28 December.

No harm in asking in your most persuasive manner for a loaner.

HellDiver

5,708 posts

198 months

Tuesday 22nd February 2011
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They've got your money, now suddenly there's a delay in delivery? scratchchin

Zod

35,295 posts

274 months

Tuesday 22nd February 2011
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HellDiver said:
They've got your money, now suddenly there's a delay in delivery? scratchchin
They only have the deposit.

edo

16,699 posts

281 months

Tuesday 22nd February 2011
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Agree, say they lend you a car now, or you'll take your deposit back (even if you dont plan to do this) since they haven't stuck to their side of the terms.

T1CHS

148 posts

193 months

Tuesday 22nd February 2011
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The local VW dealers did this for my wife without her even having to ask, they offered it while apologising for the delay in delivery. They even held the number plate that she had requested when given a choice by the dealer a month earlier. This wasn't even in relation to an order for an expensive car, a £7000 Fox.
They should be bending over backwards!

monthefish

20,466 posts

247 months

Tuesday 22nd February 2011
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anonymous said:
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What's the car?

Not that it makes much difference, but I think your case is stronger if you've ordered a new X5 50iD, as opposed to a 116d (do they do 116d autos?)

Zod

35,295 posts

274 months

Tuesday 22nd February 2011
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anonymous said:
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I'd keep pushing the point. I was lucky not to have to do so, but I was gearing myself up to do it, having said "we'll see about that if the car is late".

Lambo FirstBlood

1,001 posts

195 months

Tuesday 22nd February 2011
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edo said:
Agree, say they lend you a car now, or you'll take your deposit back (even if you dont plan to do this) since they haven't stuck to their side of the terms.
+1, that's what I would do

eltax91

10,361 posts

222 months

Tuesday 22nd February 2011
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I'd push them on it, for sure. They should provide you with a loaner. If they won't budge, and you are happy waiting for the car, see it as a chance to excercise some short-term barge-anomics. biggrin

uncinquesei

918 posts

193 months

Tuesday 22nd February 2011
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Talk to them.
You seem to be reasonable (unlike some of the hotheads on here wink ) it's not in the garage's interest not to deliver the car. It is generally known that there are supply problems at the moment so i would be surprised (nay stunned) if you went somewhere else and found a delivery date or physical car.
I've had this situation (from the other side) as have a few others on here - we're usually able to sort something out. Maybe there's a p/ex with some tax on it? since the rules changed on cashing in tax discs there may be used cars on the pitch that are still taxed - try that. In these cases a bit of latitude may be required if they have a customer on the car but these things can be got round.
If you do decide to try the having your deposit back route, be prepared to go through with it - if they can't supply there's not really an alternative.
It is a pain at the moment...
It is disappointing however that they haven't been speaking to you regularly - that is probably a sign that the build was going backwards and they were hoping to be able to do something before they had to tell you. Human nature, sadly, means we don't like giving bad news.
As regards the price issue, i would certainly make the point that having been told you must take delivery before a certain date (which cannot be met) you ought not to be expected to pay any more...


Pork

9,455 posts

250 months

Tuesday 22nd February 2011
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On the plus side, at least the car will be an 11 plate.

uncinquesei

918 posts

193 months

Tuesday 22nd February 2011
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Pork said:
On the plus side, at least the car will be an 11 plate.
or a 61 plate at this rate... wink

Venom

1,858 posts

275 months

Tuesday 22nd February 2011
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My answer would be that it's not unreasonable of you to ask them the question. Whether they come up with a loaner for you or not is another question, however.

If it was me, I'd ask. If they do come up with a loaner, great. If they don't, you're no worse off than you are now.

LooneyTunes

8,316 posts

174 months

Tuesday 22nd February 2011
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Personally, I'd be the calmest, most understanding, person BMW UK's customer service team had spoken to all week. See if there's anything they can do to "help out" their dealer from central stock... even if it's one of their ex-fleet cars perhaps?

I'd be confident that, once they realise the frightful inconvenience they're causing someone who was looking forward with great anticipation to their new car, they would at least try to make the problem go away. If they didn't, well, I'd vote with my feet.

In my experience most folk in CS jobs actually do want to help and in some cases can do more than you think. And helping out a reasonable fellow has got to beat the hell out of listening to yet another ranter!

LooneyTunes

8,316 posts

174 months

Tuesday 22nd February 2011
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anonymous said:
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Surprising... I seem to recall them loaning a mate of mine a 7 from central when his M was off the road.

Perhaps worth another go? After all, you've spoken to the dealer and they seem to be struggling a little.... and you are wheel-less due to their screw up (after all, you only sold the old car in order that you could pay them for a brand spanker).

okgo

40,652 posts

214 months

Tuesday 22nd February 2011
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This the one in near you?

If so I still know a fair few people there...

LooneyTunes

8,316 posts

174 months

Tuesday 22nd February 2011
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This any use? BMW UK in Bracknell: 01344 426 565.