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TomJackUK

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361 posts

201 months

Thursday 3rd March 2011
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So I am doing my final checks for a car I am buying at the weekend, and I remembered on my Autocheck check it gave the option to put in a VIN for a 'deeper' check. I entered the Vin the seller gave me - came back as invalid. So i phoned a dealer where it was serviced to check the VIN - exactly the same, but one digit (seller said it was a '2', dealer a 'Z'). So i try the dealer suplpied Vin in Autocheck - invalid.

Dont really know what to do now. Any advice would be much appreciated!

monthefish

20,467 posts

260 months

Thursday 3rd March 2011
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TomJackUK said:
So I am doing my final checks for a car I am buying at the weekend, and I remembered on my Autocheck check it gave the option to put in a VIN for a 'deeper' check. I entered the Vin the seller gave me - came back as invalid. So i phoned a dealer where it was serviced to check the VIN - exactly the same, but one digit (seller said it was a '2', dealer a 'Z'). So i try the dealer suplpied Vin in Autocheck - invalid.

Dont really know what to do now. Any advice would be much appreciated!
It may be a zero getting mistaken for an O.

Get an MOT or the V5 faxed/scanned to you asap.

TomJackUK

Original Poster:

361 posts

201 months

Thursday 3rd March 2011
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I have contacted the seller to re-check the VIN that he gave me.

I find it odd that the dealer/service centre supplied VIN is not recognised either =/

va1o

16,113 posts

236 months

Thursday 3rd March 2011
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The best idea would be to go to the car yourself and check the VIN plates on the vehicle and use the number actually printed to check on the website.

TomJackUK

Original Poster:

361 posts

201 months

Thursday 3rd March 2011
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OK I am really not sure what the deal here is, but if anyone could give opinions/shed some light that would be great...

On the V5 + MOTs - VIN number A
On the screen + under bonnet - VIN number B

They are both very similar, however VIN number B has got an extra 2 digits on (an extra '21') taking it up to 19 digits. Is it a sensible assumption that this is down to DVLA incompetance, or is it more likely to be something sinister?

va1o

16,113 posts

236 months

Thursday 3rd March 2011
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Athlon

5,873 posts

235 months

Thursday 3rd March 2011
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What car is it?

TomJackUK

Original Poster:

361 posts

201 months

Thursday 3rd March 2011
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I got my last post the wrong way around... to clear up...

OK I am really not sure what the deal here is, but if anyone could give opinions/shed some light that would be great...

On the V5 + MOTs - VIN number A
On the screen + under bonnet - VIN number B

They are both very similar, however VIN number A has got an extra 2 digits on (an extra '21') taking it up to 19 digits.

So, the MOT and V5 have got 2 extra digits on them. They basically match the VIN on the car apart from 2 extra digits....

Is it a sensible assumption that this is down to DVLA incompetance, or is it more likely to be something sinister?

iMac Hunt

1,195 posts

264 months

Thursday 3rd March 2011
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It'll just be a mistake. As stated above, all (correct) VINs are exactly 17 digits. I had the same problem with a motorbike I got from the Isle Of Man last year. The IoM log book was showing an impossibly short VIN. Took bloody ages to get sorted out - but got there eventually.

Athlon

5,873 posts

235 months

Thursday 3rd March 2011
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iMac Hunt said:
It'll just be a mistake. As stated above, all (correct) VINs are exactly 17 digits. I had the same problem with a motorbike I got from the Isle Of Man last year. The IoM log book was showing an impossibly short VIN. Took bloody ages to get sorted out - but got there eventually.
Just to be clear, all modern Euro issue vins are 17 digit, Japanese imports and older American cars are not 17 digit.

toekneeboloni

3 posts

149 months

Saturday 26th April 2014
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Hi, just wondering if anyone could help? I know this is an old topic but just wondering if this issue was ever resolved and if so what was the outcome, because i seem to have the same issue. my v5 and mot have a 19 digit vin, however the vehicle has a 17 digit vin. The vin on the documents is nearly the same the difference being:

V5 + MOT- WVWZZZZ***********G

VEHICLE- WV2ZZZ***********

The charaters/numbers where the stars are identical.

thanks


HaloGen8

1,413 posts

158 months

Saturday 26th April 2014
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Wow what a thread resurrection!

I'm no expert but it does sound a bit iffy.

Anyone?

toekneeboloni

3 posts

149 months

Saturday 26th April 2014
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Oh yeah,
forgot to mention this vehicle is over 20 yrs old and every mot going back to 2007 also has the 19 digit vin code!! Im thinking a type error by DVLA along time ago?

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

155 months

Saturday 26th April 2014
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toekneeboloni said:
Hi, just wondering if anyone could help? I know this is an old topic but just wondering if this issue was ever resolved and if so what was the outcome, because i seem to have the same issue. my v5 and mot have a 19 digit vin, however the vehicle has a 17 digit vin. The vin on the documents is nearly the same the difference being:

V5 + MOT- WVWZZZZ***********G

VEHICLE- WV2ZZZ***********

The charaters/numbers where the stars are identical.
WV2 - VW van, right? WVW would be VW car. It's entirely possible that the muppet at the dealer originally entered the wrong VIN, having got very used to typing WVW 93 times a day. Likewise with multiple Zs. The G at the end...? Mebbe a check digit? Is there anything that _could_ be a G or 6 on the plate? Mebbe it was on the delivery paperwork that came with the van, which then got dumped on the muppet's desk before being binned once used.

Plenty of VW VIN decoders on t'internet. But, yes, human error 100%. If the starred characters weren't identical, you start to think ring, but otherwise? Nope, human error. It's survived this far...

toekneeboloni

3 posts

149 months

Saturday 26th April 2014
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Hi, many thanks for your reply, yes its a van, cant see anything on plate that could be a g.I have the same opinion as you, ive been through vw vin decoders, v5 vin to long to put into decoder however if i remove the extra z at the start the result comes up as the same vehicle details as the vin on the vehicle, apart from area in germany where built.