Imagine You're Harry Metcalf
Imagine You're Harry Metcalf
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Davey S2

Original Poster:

13,308 posts

271 months

Friday 4th March 2011
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Would you sell these 3 cars (not his actual cars but same models):







In order to buy one of these:



Cant say I would. The masser is far better looking and the RR would be far better for carrying 4 people and luggage. That would leave the classic Ferrari for high days and holidays.

Also I dont think I could stomach the massive depreciation that the FF is going to suffer.

Fair play to Harry though. He is obviously a very committed petrol head.

TonyHetherington

32,091 posts

267 months

Friday 4th March 2011
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The one thing worth remembering though is that he does have another 4x4 (I want to say a defender) as well as other sports cars, so he won't be removing that type of car from his fleet entirely.

While, out of all the new cars coming out, I probably wouldn't choose the FF, you can't deny the guy is a very commited petrolhead - well done to him, he's enjoying thumbup (whoops I just realised you wrote exactly that, as did I. Well, it seems we agree with one another!)

Shaw Tarse

31,817 posts

220 months

Friday 4th March 2011
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Id keep the old cars.

DannyVTS

7,543 posts

185 months

Friday 4th March 2011
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That FF looks good from the front and the rear

but that angle makes it look dogwk!

v8will

3,308 posts

213 months

Friday 4th March 2011
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Seems an unusual choice for him. He ususally comments on purchases that are collectible, that will suffer minimal depreciation or that will increase in value.

Maybe he is hedging a bet on getting a quick profit on the FF?

kentmotorcompany

2,471 posts

227 months

Friday 4th March 2011
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Cant see the middle photo, but from the comments I assume its Maserati Quattroporte?

Anyway if they were my last three cars in the world, no I wouldn't, and I also would not (couldn't afford the money it would lose) buy a FF new.

Although I do really like the FF, and if I had other cars, and was in the market for that type of thing, I would buy a used one, in about 18/24 months.


markCSC

2,987 posts

232 months

Friday 4th March 2011
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I'm sure he just wants EVO back in Ferrari's good books wink

Podie

46,646 posts

292 months

Friday 4th March 2011
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Buying the FF to replace the 330 just reminds me of the line in Gone in 60 seconds

There's too many self-Indulgent wieners in this city with too much bloody money! Now, if I was driving a 1967 275 GTB four-cam...

You would not be a self-indulgent wiener, sir... You'd be a connoisseur.

yoof full chav

40,760 posts

204 months

Friday 4th March 2011
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I wouldnt, but then i dont like any of the current range of ferrari's, and would rather have the 3 cars he is going to sell, but that's just my opinion

Alfa numeric

3,136 posts

196 months

Friday 4th March 2011
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kentmotorcompany said:
Cant see the middle photo, but from the comments I assume its Maserati Quattroporte?
I can't either but I'm guessing it's a Gran Tourismo as he's got one of them.

This mean's he'll have a Zonda, a 550 Barchetta and an FF. I really want to hate him but can't as I'm looking forward to reading about them too much.

ZeeTacoe

5,444 posts

239 months

Friday 4th March 2011
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I'd sell the other two but try to keep the old Ferrari.

Lil' Joe

1,548 posts

203 months

Friday 4th March 2011
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The thing with the FF is it has to be looked at in a slightly different light to say the 458/599. Ferrari stated in the release that customer's who bought the 612 had asked for more luggage space, useable rear seats, 4WD etc. This car is aimed at the sort of Proper enthusiast who wants to run a Ferrari all year round, with all the family on board. Skiing in the Alps? Driving across Africa? Why should a driving enthusiast have to compromise when taking the family in an estate/ Range Rover.

This would seem to be the best of all worlds in theory, stonking V12, space for four plus luggage, 4WD security along with the latest Ferrari technology, good looks IMO, lovely interior and should be a hoot to drive (hopefully).

Of course, you'd have to be rich to use this as your family car but that goes without saying....I think Metcalfe knows that the first Ferrari 4x4 has a good chance of being a safe investment.

_Batty_

12,268 posts

267 months

Friday 4th March 2011
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Podie said:
Buying the FF to replace the 330 just reminds me of the line in Gone in 60 seconds

There's too many self-Indulgent wieners in this city with too much bloody money! Now, if I was driving a 1967 275 GTB four-cam...

You would not be a self-indulgent wiener, sir... You'd be a connoisseur.
100% agree.
sometimes we have to look past 'new and exciting' and just enjoy the past.

RobM77

35,349 posts

251 months

Friday 4th March 2011
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I would, yes. The RR's historically significant, but in reality a heap of junk, the Maser and Ferraris are admittedly very nice, but you only live once and I guess he's keen on the new Ferrari, which incidentally offers a mix of what the Maser and Ferrari offer.

RJDM3

1,441 posts

222 months

Friday 4th March 2011
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I would not sell.

Unless the FF comes with a paper bag to hide your head

rob.e

2,862 posts

295 months

Friday 4th March 2011
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He's got a great collection of cars but only he can decide what is right for him - and fair play, a zonda plus FF is a great twosome to have in any garage!

Would I make the change if it were me? Maybe not but you can see the attaction in that FF - v12, four seats, awd etc.

The maser has actually been his before - he regretted selling and bought it back - maybe he'll do the same again?

He's also comercially very astute so I would not be surprised if he managed to buy and run the FF for a period of time whilst the "bubble" of enthusiasm (ie premiums) exists and sell on for minimal or zero loss.

TonyHetherington

32,091 posts

267 months

Friday 4th March 2011
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Podie said:
There's too many self-Indulgent wieners in this city with too much bloody money! Now, if I was driving a 1967 275 GTB four-cam...
I have a great story about one of them;

I was helping a mate out, about 7 years ago, start a new car washing business in a local garden centre car park. They're all over the place now, but 7yrs ago this was quite a new thing. So I helped him for the day cleaning cars, giving his new employees advice on cleaning etc.

Then a 275 GTB drove in. I got on my knees as he was going to drive past and begged for him to let us clean it. He did!!! I was utterly stunned. Not least because it was looking like he'd only just got it out from under it's cover anyway!

He parked up, gave me a tenner and said he'll be back in half hour. Even left it unlocked. I told everyone else to bugger off and said only I am touching this car hehe I didn't actually wash the whole car, i merely did the wheels, blackeend the tyres, rinsed grit away from the underside etc (and told him so when he got back). A very quick chat he confirmed it was 100% real and not long out of restoration.

Unbelievable yet 100% true.

littleandy0410

1,745 posts

221 months

Friday 4th March 2011
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I love the look of the FF, but wouldn't want to part with the 330GT. Could handle losing the other 2 though.

As a side note, did anyone see his renewal price for his 12 car fleet? £8769.74!

Mind you, that's about the same as an average 17 year old for a Corsa, isn't it!?

Alfa numeric

3,136 posts

196 months

Friday 4th March 2011
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rob.e said:
He's also comercially very astute so I would not be surprised if he managed to buy and run the FF for a period of time whilst the "bubble" of enthusiasm (ie premiums) exists and sell on for minimal or zero loss.
I'd say you've hit the nail on the head there. I know Chris Harris used to do it (and took a bath on the Gallardo he ordered IIRC) and Tony Bailey had a buyer lined up for his V8 Vantage before he even picked it up, so my guess is he'll have it for maybe 6 months before moving it on and getting something equally tasty.

Fair play to him.

andyps

7,819 posts

299 months

Friday 4th March 2011
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markCSC said:
I'm sure he just wants EVO back in Ferrari's good books wink
I actually thought it explained why the Chris Harris piece appeared on Jalopnik rather than his evo column - might have hindered Harry's chances of an early car somewhat. At least they will have one to test, however.

Agree that he is probably hoping to sell quite quickly without much loss as he said recently that he only buys cars he doesn't expect to lose out on (though neither the RR not Maser hardly fit that description) - the second car allocated to that dealer means he should get it and be able to run it without loss for a while.

Not sure I would swap as he is doing, but would be great to realistically have the choice!