quite agreeable courtesy car.
quite agreeable courtesy car.
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insanojackson

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Papa Hotel

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211 months

Monday 14th March 2011
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Only 13 grand? Bargain.

insanojackson

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Monday 14th March 2011
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Papa Hotel said:
Only 13 grand? Bargain.
not really but relative to the other golfs in the range it bloody is, the prices of some of them once you add some goodies is frightening

Engineer1

10,486 posts

238 months

Monday 14th March 2011
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£13K fk me that's cheap I will look through my pocket change to see if I can afford to buy one.

Seriously when did a basic new car get so expensive?

Motorrad

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216 months

Monday 14th March 2011
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Engineer1 said:


Seriously when did a basic new car get so expensive?
When the government shafted sterling and then put VAT up.

Papa Hotel

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211 months

Monday 14th March 2011
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Motorrad said:
Engineer1 said:


Seriously when did a basic new car get so expensive?
When the government shafted sterling and then put VAT up.
I was thinking it was to do with the record sales that manufacturers are making following the end of the worldwide recession and masively increased public spending. Wait, that doesn't sound right..

Garlick

40,601 posts

269 months

Monday 14th March 2011
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£13k isn't too bad for a new (and I hate this phrase but it fits) premium hatchback with decent economy, poke and equipment.

I too would spend my money elsewhere, but compared to what new cars seem to cost these days it doesn't look so bad. My father spends £18k + on (what I would call) fairly average new cars every couple of years, wouldn't do it myself, but to some it's the way they do it.


gareth.e

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218 months

Monday 14th March 2011
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tbh its all relative.. But yes 13k is a rip off

julian64

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283 months

Monday 14th March 2011
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The prices go so high for these sort of cars because people worship the altar of new, and are willing to part with cash for them.

13K for 80bhp. One wonders why you are on this site.

For that money you could have my car E39 M5 with 400 bhp!, A damn site better drive, and with the change out of £13K left over you could run it fuel free for a year or so.

pacman06

254 posts

188 months

Monday 14th March 2011
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Is a match higher or lower spec?

F1GTRUeno

6,512 posts

247 months

Monday 14th March 2011
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insanojackson said:
not really but relative to the other golfs in the range it bloody is, the prices of some of them once you add some goodies is frightening
Not just a VW thing.

Sister has just ordered a brand new Audi A1, a car based on a car which is already ridiculously expensive for what it is (Polo, also Ibiza and Fabia), and she's managed to spend nearly £20k on it.

I honestly couldn't believe how much she said it was. So I'm taking every opportunity to remind her she's paying £20k for a Skoda Fabia.

Garlick

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269 months

Monday 14th March 2011
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julian64 said:
For that money you could have my car E39 M5 with 400 bhp!, A damn site better drive, and with the change out of £13K left over you could run it fuel free for a year or so.
You're right of course and I also worship at your church.

However, to most (let's use my dad again) he wants diesel economy, space for stuff (estate) the ability to tow a caravan, climate control etc and the peace of mind a manufacturer warranty gives.

The M5 wouldn't be in contention. It might be if he could afford two cars, but as his only car? No chance.


pilchardthecat

7,483 posts

208 months

Monday 14th March 2011
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F1GTRUeno said:
Not just a VW thing.

Sister has just ordered a brand new Audi A1, a car based on a car which is already ridiculously expensive for what it is (Polo, also Ibiza and Fabia), and she's managed to spend nearly £20k on it.

I honestly couldn't believe how much she said it was. So I'm taking every opportunity to remind her she's paying £20k for a Skoda Fabia.
That won't work. A Louis Vuitton handbag is still a Louis Vuitton handbag - it does not matter if its made from hand-polished unobtainium by catalogue models on the moon or by illegal child labour in a grotty Chinese sweatshop. It has a badge on it so it's worth £2,000.

Grey Ghost

4,610 posts

249 months

Monday 14th March 2011
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Engineer1 said:
Seriously when did a basic new car get so expensive?
About the same time you could create your own VW Golf on their web site and get the bill nudging £35,000 yikes



RobM77

35,349 posts

263 months

Monday 14th March 2011
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How exactly is £13k a rip off for a brand new car? Think about VAT, profit for the dealer, delivery costs etc. Given the complexity and reliability of the average car, £13k seems fair to me!

julian64

14,325 posts

283 months

Monday 14th March 2011
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Garlick said:
julian64 said:
For that money you could have my car E39 M5 with 400 bhp!, A damn site better drive, and with the change out of £13K left over you could run it fuel free for a year or so.
You're right of course and I also worship at your church.

However, to most (let's use my dad again) he wants diesel economy, space for stuff (estate) the ability to tow a caravan, climate control etc and the peace of mind a manufacturer warranty gives.

The M5 wouldn't be in contention. It might be if he could afford two cars, but as his only car? No chance.
I only quoted my performance car cos this is a car enthusiast website. Its possible to get all that your dad wants for a fraction of a new price only a couple of years old.

The only thing worshiping at my altar doesn't get you is the last thing you mentioned, a manufacturers warranty.

I suspect that your dad is in the majority in this country, and I suspect the manfuacturers warranty is the ACTUAL thing that most people hold dear in a car. The manufacturers warranty or the perception of peace of mind.

Garlick

40,601 posts

269 months

Monday 14th March 2011
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julian64 said:
Garlick said:
julian64 said:
For that money you could have my car E39 M5 with 400 bhp!, A damn site better drive, and with the change out of £13K left over you could run it fuel free for a year or so.
You're right of course and I also worship at your church.

However, to most (let's use my dad again) he wants diesel economy, space for stuff (estate) the ability to tow a caravan, climate control etc and the peace of mind a manufacturer warranty gives.

The M5 wouldn't be in contention. It might be if he could afford two cars, but as his only car? No chance.
I only quoted my performance car cos this is a car enthusiast website. Its possible to get all that your dad wants for a fraction of a new price only a couple of years old.

The only thing worshiping at my altar doesn't get you is the last thing you mentioned, a manufacturers warranty.

I suspect that your dad is in the majority in this country, and I suspect the manfuacturers warranty is the ACTUAL thing that most people hold dear in a car. The manufacturers warranty or the perception of peace of mind.
I agree with you by the way, that's why my cars all cost me money hehe

va1o

16,113 posts

236 months

Monday 14th March 2011
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I like the Twist a lot, and for under £13k they make the rest of the Golf range look very overpriced. You would actually pay about the same money for a Polo 1.4 SE with the same options that come standard with the Golf Twist.

va1o

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236 months

Monday 14th March 2011
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gareth.e said:
tbh its all relative.. But yes 13k is a rip off
A rip off compared to what exactly?

insanojackson

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273 months

Monday 14th March 2011
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va1o said:
I like the Twist a lot, and for under £13k they make the rest of the Golf range look very overpriced. You would actually pay about the same money for a Polo 1.4 SE with the same options that come standard with the Golf Twist.
i know thats what seems odd about the whole range, if you could get a slightly more powerful version for a little bit more cash i think it would do well, alas you cant and your looking at ££££££££ for a bit more power. Even the bloody bluemotion at 18k plus needs a 700 odd pound media kit to get the ipod connectivity. madness