LPG Conversions
Author
Discussion

C8PPO

Original Poster:

20,857 posts

232 months

Saturday 19th March 2011
quotequote all
A question which I'm sure will have been asked before but which doesn't pop up very obviously in a search:

If a car is properly converted to LPG by a licensed installer, is it's CO2 emissions figure re-classified?

Jem0911

4,415 posts

230 months

Saturday 19th March 2011
quotequote all
Yes.
You need to send of the certificate of installation with the registration doc and mark on the change to fuel type.
You get a discount on the RFL.

C8PPO

Original Poster:

20,857 posts

232 months

Saturday 19th March 2011
quotequote all
Ah, thanks. Do you have any idea what the CO2 figures for a converted petrol 4.4 Rangie would be?

Bungleaio

6,587 posts

231 months

Saturday 19th March 2011
quotequote all
Don't get too excited you only get a £15 discount on your current rate.

irodger

1,143 posts

247 months

Saturday 19th March 2011
quotequote all
Not relating to CO2 of LPG, but it is expected that LPG will increase in price by quite a bit due to Japan requiring massive amounts of it for rebuilding after the earthquake. And once prices go up for a particular reason, they rarely come back down when that reason is no longer valid.

Just a thought.

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

219 months

Saturday 19th March 2011
quotequote all
irodger said:
Not relating to CO2 of LPG, but it is expected that LPG will increase in price by quite a bit due to Japan requiring massive amounts of it for rebuilding after the earthquake. And once prices go up for a particular reason, they rarely come back down when that reason is no longer valid.

Just a thought.
Why Japan? Is that the only fuel they use over there?? From what I can tell people have been doom saying about LPG for over 12 years now.....

Chiswickboy

549 posts

217 months

Saturday 19th March 2011
quotequote all
Why Japan?

Well the situation is having world-wide repercussions. A Financial Analyst advised me this week to move my pension fund to a less risky scheme as interest rates were being hit - and as far as I am aware, none of my fund is invested in Japan.

deveng

3,920 posts

209 months

Saturday 19th March 2011
quotequote all
Chiswickboy said:
Why Japan?

Well the situation is having world-wide repercussions. A Financial Analyst advised me this week to move my pension fund to a less risky scheme as interest rates were being hit - and as far as I am aware, none of my fund is invested in Japan.
So why are they suddenly going to use all the LPG? Why didn't new Zealand use all of it? Or Haiti last year?


irodger

1,143 posts

247 months

Saturday 19th March 2011
quotequote all
We're getting slightly O/T here, but...

Haiti did use lots of LPG, but not anywhere near as much as it is expected Japan will use. Japan have the finances to buy it in the first place, where Haiti didn't. They were relying on aid form other sources, which mostly went on food and health. Haiti was a third world country before it's 'quake and is still almost entirely in ruins, with little attempt to rebuild anything.

New Zealand wasn't even 5% of what's happened in Japan. they have been able to continue most of their daily routine without too much disruption.

And where Japan differs most is that they are expected to start the clear up and rebuilding of it's towns and cities that were affected almost immediately. LPG can be used in many ways during this... it is easily transportable, cheap(ish) for now and can be used for power/electricity, heating, transport fuel, etc.

I'm just relaying info I've seen over the past week. I'm not giving advice on where people should be investing, just saying that there are reports of an expected increase in prices. The finance industry is said to be investing heavily in LPG and LNG (especially LNG tbf) after last week and they're more cautious about their business than ever before.

Edited by irodger on Saturday 19th March 09:55

GlenMH

5,458 posts

272 months

Saturday 19th March 2011
quotequote all
Lots of construction machinery and almost all the taxis here use LPG - not diesel.

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

219 months

Saturday 19th March 2011
quotequote all
GlenMH said:
Lots of construction machinery and almost all the taxis here use LPG - not diesel.
Cheers, well that might explain it a bit more.

Roo

11,504 posts

236 months

Saturday 19th March 2011
quotequote all
Just sold a car that ran on LPG that was classified as bi-fuel.

Thought about getting my truck done but LPG is now 80p a litre round here so takes a long time to get the money back.

Biker's Nemesis

41,410 posts

237 months

Saturday 19th March 2011
quotequote all
I'm sure it was 15p a litre when I used to fit LPG conversions 25 years ago.

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

219 months

Saturday 19th March 2011
quotequote all
Biker's Nemesis said:
I'm sure it was 15p a litre when I used to fit LPG conversions 25 years ago.
Yeah but petrol wasn't £1.36/litre back then either.

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

219 months

Saturday 19th March 2011
quotequote all
Roo said:
Just sold a car that ran on LPG that was classified as bi-fuel.

Thought about getting my truck done but LPG is now 80p a litre round here so takes a long time to get the money back.
That's still 55-60p cheaper than a litre of petrol though.

Biker's Nemesis

41,410 posts

237 months

Saturday 19th March 2011
quotequote all
300bhp/ton said:
Biker's Nemesis said:
I'm sure it was 15p a litre when I used to fit LPG conversions 25 years ago.
Yeah but petrol wasn't £1.36/litre back then either.
I'm sure it wasn't.

Whats your point?

Bungleaio

6,587 posts

231 months

Saturday 19th March 2011
quotequote all
Biker's Nemesis said:
300bhp/ton said:
Biker's Nemesis said:
I'm sure it was 15p a litre when I used to fit LPG conversions 25 years ago.
Yeah but petrol wasn't £1.36/litre back then either.
I'm sure it wasn't.

Whats your point?
Probably that both fuels have gone up in the past 25 years.

I've just paid 70p a litre for LPG where as petrol is 129.9p round here. I got my car converted last june and I was paying 60p for LPG then, I can't remember how much petrol was then, around 115-120?

I still have to buy petrol though as the car doesn't run on LPG all the time but I get about 2000 miles between fill ups.

deveng

3,920 posts

209 months

Saturday 19th March 2011
quotequote all
Biker's Nemesis said:
I'm sure it was 15p a litre when I used to fit LPG conversions 25 years ago.
My parents house cost about £20k 25 years ago, and is now worth 20 times that.

My point being, things change, so simply stating a price from 25 years ago is pretty pointless

Edited by deveng on Saturday 19th March 15:19

Roo

11,504 posts

236 months

Saturday 19th March 2011
quotequote all
300bhp/ton said:
Roo said:
Just sold a car that ran on LPG that was classified as bi-fuel.

Thought about getting my truck done but LPG is now 80p a litre round here so takes a long time to get the money back.
That's still 55-60p cheaper than a litre of petrol though.
50p a litre difference. Even at 11mpg only doing about 5,000 miles a year in the thing it'll take longer to get the cost back than I'll save by the time I've got bored and sold it.

wackydo

137 posts

289 months

Saturday 19th March 2011
quotequote all
I used to run an LPG car. When I first started LPG was a third of the price of petrol, now it is about half the price.

I used to be able to get 500 miles out of a 90 litre tank of LPG (which would now cost £70), now I get 500 miles out of £65 of diesel.

If you want the response and reviness of a petrol engine (which many do on this web site) then the LPG makes sense. If you don't, and mainly want economy then the ease of availabilty of diesel makes it the better choice IMHO.

I'm driving about 170 miles a day to work (and back) at the moment so economy is rather key.