Builder messed up my car !
Builder messed up my car !
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IceBoy

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2,455 posts

250 months

Monday 21st March 2011
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Hi All,

My neighbour is having an extention and some work inside their house.

My pride and joy was parked in the garage and the builder had been drilling, into the wall on the other side of my garage. BUT, has drilled holes all the way through into my garage!

This could have been really bad but what has happened is that 15-20 of the bricks inside of my garage have "blown off" (fragments of bricks).

This has showered my car in brick chippings (the biggest fragment being the size of a lighter), dust everywhere and my mk2 GTI 8v (which is mint) has got S**t all over it.

I get on very well with my neighbour and the builder seems to be a sound bloke.

When I discovered this, this morning, I went round and the guy came over to asses the damage.

The car is so covered in dust, that it is hard to tell if any scratches or tiny dents have been left.

The builder is willing to co-operate 100% and has asked me to get a full valet inside and out as the windows was a tiny bit open. As well as fixing the holes in my wall.

The thing is I want to valet the car myself and the builder has asked me how much a valet would cost?????

I think it would take me about 3-4 hours to get the car looking like new again an dI have all the lotions and potions!!

So what do I charge the builder? I'm not a scammer, so just want to charge the builder what a valetter would charge is they came to my house.

Fingers crossed there is no body damage!!!!!

IceBoy

edo

16,699 posts

294 months

Monday 21st March 2011
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If there is no damage to the car at all, I'd just be asking for a bottle of something.

I'd hold fire on what you want until you can be sure it isnt scratched. Just make sure you rinse the dust off - dont rub it!!

VladD

8,196 posts

294 months

Monday 21st March 2011
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Get 3 quotes from valet companies, show them to the builder and tell him that you're going to valet the car yourself and that you'll charge him the same as the lowest quote, if he's OK with that.

IceBoy

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2,455 posts

250 months

Monday 21st March 2011
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Good Idea Vald.

I will definately make sure I rinse, rinse and rinse again before even getting the sponge out.

The inside worries me more, dust in the vents and all the nooks and cranies.

IceBoy

GKP

15,099 posts

270 months

Monday 21st March 2011
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What about the damage to your garage wall?

blindswelledrat

25,257 posts

261 months

Monday 21st March 2011
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I would think the reasonable thing would be to charge him the value of returning the car to pre-dust condition. If it is just dust, then thats little more than a spray of water.
Realistically that is just a car wash and a vacuum provided there is no damage.

Stu R

21,638 posts

244 months

Monday 21st March 2011
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Isn't this something you would have done yourself anyway to keep it mint? Unless there's any damage, calling it a bottle of wine or something sounds reasonable.

LRdriver II

1,936 posts

278 months

Monday 21st March 2011
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Buggles said:
Why charge him anything at all if it isn't going to cost you anything? If the guy is being sound to you with regards to fixing your wall e.t.c then why not be sound with him?

What is it with this country where people are after money all the time?

Take a bottle for good will if it's offered, but why bill him for something that's going to cost you nowt?

Put yourself in his shoes, he's made a mistake and he's doing all he can to rectify it. How do you think it will go down if he gives you a couple of hundred quid for a valeter and then see's you washing it yourself knowing you've pocketed the cash?
This..

Also why the hell is he drilling holes thru your garage wall? Is it a shared wall, can it hold whatever extension he is building or what?

I would be worried about that more.


SiH

1,858 posts

276 months

Monday 21st March 2011
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LRdriver II said:
Buggles said:
Why charge him anything at all if it isn't going to cost you anything? If the guy is being sound to you with regards to fixing your wall e.t.c then why not be sound with him?

What is it with this country where people are after money all the time?

Take a bottle for good will if it's offered, but why bill him for something that's going to cost you nowt?

Put yourself in his shoes, he's made a mistake and he's doing all he can to rectify it. How do you think it will go down if he gives you a couple of hundred quid for a valeter and then see's you washing it yourself knowing you've pocketed the cash?
This..

Also why the hell is he drilling holes thru your garage wall? Is it a shared wall, can it hold whatever extension he is building or what?

I would be worried about that more.
This +1.

With regards the car, give it a wash to your usual standards and if it's not scratched or damaged just put it down as one of those things, your neighbour and the builder will no doubt be grateful. Then you've got something saved in the 'goodwill bank' that you might need to call on if you piss your neighbour off in the future or you need a big favour from them!

Torquey

1,956 posts

257 months

Monday 21st March 2011
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Buggles said:
Why charge him anything at all if it isn't going to cost you anything? If the guy is being sound to you with regards to fixing your wall e.t.c then why not be sound with him?

What is it with this country where people are after money all the time?

Take a bottle for good will if it's offered, but why bill him for something that's going to cost you nowt?

Put yourself in his shoes, he's made a mistake and he's doing all he can to rectify it. How do you think it will go down if he gives you a couple of hundred quid for a valeter and then see's you washing it yourself knowing you've pocketed the cash?
Thank god someone said it. Its a mistake - give the bloke a break. Nothing a bucket of water and quick vac wont fix.


I'm sure you'll make a mistake sooner or later and I hope someone holds you to ransom for it.

IceBoy

Original Poster:

2,455 posts

250 months

Monday 21st March 2011
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I have told the builder that I will wash the car but he is insiting to pay for a valetter. So the builder has agreed to pay for getting the car to the original condition and has said he would still pay if I clean it.

As I said in the OP, I don't want to scam anyone, if I get someone to do the work it will cost, if I do it (which I prefer) it will cost me 3-4 hours work.

I might just ask for a bottle of something nice.

IceBoy

PS. I'm more worried about damage !! rough brick particles, some the size of a small match box might have scratched the car!!

Edited by IceBoy on Monday 21st March 14:32

garrykiller

5,670 posts

187 months

Monday 21st March 2011
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if it were me, charge £30 and hour for labour. haha, put then i am an evil SOB. getting a few quotes is the best idea.

Big E 118

2,468 posts

198 months

Monday 21st March 2011
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Buggles said:
Why charge him anything at all if it isn't going to cost you anything? If the guy is being sound to you with regards to fixing your wall e.t.c then why not be sound with him?

What is it with this country where people are after money all the time?

Take a bottle for good will if it's offered, but why bill him for something that's going to cost you nowt?

Put yourself in his shoes, he's made a mistake and he's doing all he can to rectify it. How do you think it will go down if he gives you a couple of hundred quid for a valeter and then see's you washing it yourself knowing you've pocketed the cash?
^^^ Why are you asking for compensation if it's not costing you anything?

If you're decent with the guy and you need a builder in the future he might just remember your good will.....

IceBoy

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2,455 posts

250 months

Monday 21st March 2011
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Just pulled the car out of the garage and the builder came over (he is a a bit of a petrol-head, and knew what the car was!!)

The car is under a really thick covering of dust, I mean like it has been sat in an under ground car park for 10 years!! Maybe worse.

The inside of the car is going to take a bit of time to clean up. The dust is everywhere.

The builder has said again, "how much to make it look all shiny again", and I have just agreed that he could buy me a beer sometime and that we would look at the car next week when all clean, to assess the damage, if any.

I think this is the right thing to do and my neighbour who was present, looked pretty chuffed as I do I!!

Nothing that can't be fixed on a Sunday morning, with a little elbow grease!!

IceBoy

eltax91

10,756 posts

235 months

Monday 21st March 2011
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Take it on the chin and sort the car yourself. Take him up on his offer to sort the wall out. Tell him you don't want any money to fix the car, but that building job you've been meaning to get sorted, well, he will sort it for you for the cost of materials, right? wink

Efbe

9,251 posts

195 months

Monday 21st March 2011
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IceBoy said:
Just pulled the car out of the garage and the builder came over (he is a a bit of a petrol-head, and knew what the car was!!)

The car is under a really thick covering of dust, I mean like it has been sat in an under ground car park for 10 years!! Maybe worse.

The inside of the car is going to take a bit of time to clean up. The dust is everywhere.

The builder has said again, "how much to make it look all shiny again", and I have just agreed that he could buy me a beer sometime and that we would look at the car next week when all clean, to assess the damage, if any.

I think this is the right thing to do and my neighbour who was present, looked pretty chuffed as I do I!!

Nothing that can't be fixed on a Sunday morning, with a little elbow grease!!

IceBoy
good lad.

sounds like the best outcome to me,

thinfourth2

32,414 posts

233 months

Monday 21st March 2011
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You can polish cars

Can you do builder stuff?


fwaggie

1,644 posts

229 months

Monday 21st March 2011
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I would get an external company in to to this valeting, just the once. The reason being that they are independant.

  • If* there are loads of chips in the paint (which is likely, considering what's been dropped in it), after all you have said the builder is going to immediately think you are trying to pull a fast one.
Use an independant valeter and he cannot accuse them of trying to do the same.

Plus if the valeter does even more damage (accidentally or cack handedly) THEY will have their own insurance.

mrmr96

13,736 posts

233 months

Monday 21st March 2011
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If you're getting a valeter/detailer in to do the work then get the builder to pay for that.

If you're going to do it yourself with your own potions, then get the builder to pay for the potions.

Asking the builder to pay for a pro and then doing it yourself while pocketing the cash isn't right IMO.

Efbe

9,251 posts

195 months

Monday 21st March 2011
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mrmr96 said:
If you're getting a valeter/detailer in to do the work then get the builder to pay for that.

If you're going to do it yourself with your own potions, then get the builder to pay for the potions.

Asking the builder to pay for a pro and then doing it yourself while pocketing the cash isn't right IMO.
epic reading fail.

try reading the WHOLE thread next time
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