Renault 5 to be re-born
Renault 5 to be re-born
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YBTurbo

Original Poster:

2,519 posts

204 months

Monday 21st March 2011
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Link here,

http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsArticle/AllCars/...


So what does everyone think, I personally love the '5 even in standard trim but I don't think it has a following like the Mini and Fiat 500 so it wouldn't sell on the name alone.


sparks_E39

12,738 posts

242 months

Monday 21st March 2011
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Looks horrible.

hotrod scott

1,308 posts

229 months

Monday 21st March 2011
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Why not think up a new design instead of keep going back to the old ones? Seems there is no creativity these days!

Streps

2,457 posts

195 months

Monday 21st March 2011
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Just makes the original 5 look even better compared to the huge "small" cars being made today.

Twincam16

27,647 posts

287 months

Monday 21st March 2011
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hotrod scott said:
Why not think up a new design instead of keep going back to the old ones? Seems there is no creativity these days!
Agreed, although to be honest the retro-cars seem to be variations on a theme rather than a design dead-end.

Think about it. If you want a retro small Fiat, you can have a 500. If you want a small Fiat featuring modern design, there's the Panda.

Same goes for the Beetle and the Golf. While it could be argued that the MINI is an annoying, dodgy 'retro' design, there's also a case to make that suggests the range that's built up represents what Austin would be building if they were still around (so long as they make a road-ready version of the Rocketman as a real 'mini' MINI).

So long as they continue to make the Clio, I don't have a problem.

Ian974

3,201 posts

228 months

Monday 21st March 2011
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This trend for digging up old names is just going to keep going.
'Coming 2013, the all new Vauxhall Nova'

k-ink

9,070 posts

208 months

Monday 21st March 2011
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They really need tomake it timy with 200bhp or more. It has to slaughter the others for speed.

Twincam16

27,647 posts

287 months

Monday 21st March 2011
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k-ink said:
They really need tomake it timy with 200bhp or more. It has to slaughter the others for speed.
Yes - the thing about the original 5GT Turbo was its ability to take on the likes of the Golf GTI and 205 GTi with just a little 1.3-litre engine. Attached to a massive turbocharger.

Janesy B

2,625 posts

215 months

Monday 21st March 2011
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Is that picture not just a silly Autocar rendering? Read; it will never look like that..

londonbabe

2,159 posts

221 months

Monday 21st March 2011
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The R5 was just a boring supermini, no more interesting then than a Clio is today.
If Renault really want to chase the retro vibe a new Renault 4 would be a better idea.

the fury

593 posts

271 months

Monday 21st March 2011
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londonbabe said:
The R5 was just a boring supermini, no more interesting then than a Clio is today.
If Renault really want to chase the retro vibe a new Renault 4 would be a better idea.
Good idea! Much cuter than a 5.

Hitler Hadrump

1,750 posts

202 months

Monday 21st March 2011
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londonbabe said:
The R5 was just a boring supermini, no more interesting then than a Clio is today.
If Renault really want to chase the retro vibe a new Renault 4 would be a better idea.
I will settle for nothing less than a reborn Dauphine.

172ff

3,775 posts

224 months

Monday 21st March 2011
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Confused....?

Isnt the Twingo supposed to go up against the 500 et al?

MarJay

2,180 posts

204 months

Monday 21st March 2011
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Looks like the bd lovechild of a DS3 and a Mini.

geeteeaye

2,369 posts

188 months

Monday 21st March 2011
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Twincam16 said:
Yes - the thing about the original 5GT Turbo was its ability to take on the likes of the Golf GTI and 205 GTi with just a little 1.3-litre engine. Attached to a massive turbocharger.
Wasn't it a 1.4? The 5GTT was a fair bit faster than the Golf GTi IIRC, wasn't it something silly like just over 7secs to 60 - weighed very little.

Alfachick

1,639 posts

226 months

Monday 21st March 2011
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griff7

765 posts

194 months

Monday 21st March 2011
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geeteeaye said:
Wasn't it a 1.4? The 5GTT was a fair bit faster than the Golf GTi IIRC, wasn't it something silly like just over 7secs to 60 - weighed very little.
yes it was 1.4,the uno turbo did a 1.3 then a 1.4.

6speedmanual

140 posts

258 months

Monday 21st March 2011
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I thought Renault had played the R4 card when they launched Kangoo. Very much a spiritual successor.
With R5 they are just getting on a retro bandwagon. They don't need to! They kept moving forward with good new ideas (eg Twingo).
Fiat went 500 as their entire range had no characterful cars (except Panda which is a modern successor to the original Panda but not retro)
Retro is retrograde. Look at what it did for Jaguar.....

Peter

TheMuffinMan

56 posts

188 months

Monday 21st March 2011
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Does this mean that my 1989 Renault 5 TR 1.2 is suddenly going to be worth lots and lots? The value of old minis and fiat 500's rocketed when the new ones came out.

maniac0796

1,292 posts

195 months

Monday 21st March 2011
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Twincam16 said:
Agreed, although to be honest the retro-cars seem to be variations on a theme rather than a design dead-end.

Think about it. If you want a retro small Fiat, you can have a 500. If you want a small Fiat featuring modern design, there's the Panda.

Same goes for the Beetle and the Golf. While it could be argued that the MINI is an annoying, dodgy 'retro' design, there's also a case to make that suggests the range that's built up represents what Austin would be building if they were still around (so long as they make a road-ready version of the Rocketman as a real 'mini' MINI).

So long as they continue to make the Clio, I don't have a problem.
The depressing part is it'll probably be on a clio chassis (also based on the new Nissan Micra most likely) but will cost a feck load more.