What warm hatch, circa 2k, circa 35mpg
What warm hatch, circa 2k, circa 35mpg
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anonymous-user

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83 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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Ok first off, it doesn't HAVE to be a hatch but searching it seems these will fulfil the criteria best

My E30 will be up for sale at the end of the month, I love it but the fuel bills are crippling now, £20 seems to get me fk all distance

The 325 came with 170Bhp from new and it feels like it has retained most of those so I am on a quest to get a similar amount of power but return better mpg

I have compiled a list of candidates by looking at the classifieds and thread here

Opinions on which is best please and likely to give me the required mpg

Clio 172
Focus ST170
306 Gti 6
Leon Cupra
Mk4 Golf GTi
Octavia VRS
Ibiza Cupra

AMST09

570 posts

209 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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ST170 won't unless driven sedately

BDR529

3,560 posts

203 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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How much you selling the 325 for? wobble

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

83 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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BDR529 said:
How much you selling the 325 for? wobble
I'll drop you a PM

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

83 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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AMST09 said:
ST170 won't unless driven sedately
Ah ok thats one off the list

I feel myself leaning towards the 172 as they seem to be rated on here and there are lots in that price bracket meaning I could find a better example

JackDaniels

410 posts

234 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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I had a 182 (miss it loads frown ) when driven gently on long runs I got 40mpg and around town/commute it was around 28-35ish, high teens maybe low 20's when thrashed.


AMST09

570 posts

209 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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Got an average of 34mpg out of my fiesta ST, mixture of driving

Steve_F

879 posts

223 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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Any car on that list will struggle to get 35mpg if driven quickly.

The Cupra I had was averaging about 28 I think but fuel was cheaper then so it got driven quicker!

Can't see that being much different from any of the VAG ones.

If you're going to be driving slowly everywhere anyway may as well have a small diesel!!

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

83 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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I'm not going to be driving slowly all the time everywhere and I still ideally would like a car that I can attend runs in

The 325 however seems to get maybe 28 driven slowly and then 25-20 when caning in

If I could get something that gives me 35 ish when pootling I would be happy and hopefully so would my wallet smile

Are the 172's that good then? The figures seem to work for me smile

Nige_GTI

363 posts

207 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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Steve_F said:
Any car on that list will struggle to get 35mpg if driven quickly.

The Cupra I had was averaging about 28 I think but fuel was cheaper then so it got driven quicker!

Can't see that being much different from any of the VAG ones.

If you're going to be driving slowly everywhere anyway may as well have a small diesel!!
Maybe any car on the list, but there are plenty of warm hatch's that will do 35mpg when ragged, Puma 1.7 (39mpg), Early GT TDI, Proton Satria Gti (34mpg), Panda 100HP.

Obviously if you drive like 17 year year old in 2nd gear all the time you won't get 35mpg.

Be fast when you can and economical the rest of the time


Edited by Nige_GTI on Tuesday 22 March 22:35

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

83 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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This is exactly the point, I know what to expect when on a run or a b road blast and have no issue with that

The issue comes when I am m/waying it down to Somerset or up north then I still see 30 max in the E30

I don't drive everywhere fast I live in London it's not possible, so I want some economy where poss when pootling to the shops etc but still engaging enough for a laugh from time to time

Like the idea of the Clio but have some qualms about the driving position, do like the idea of the focus though

2000 GTV

68 posts

190 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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Fiesta Zetec-S.

anonymous-user

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83 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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2000 GTV said:
Fiesta Zetec-S.
Over the Focus? I did consider it but being 6'1 I wasn't sure if it was a bit small

gareth.e

2,071 posts

218 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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I cant say the gti-6 is great on fuel..

Kentish

15,169 posts

263 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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I'd go for the Leon, Ibiza or Octavia. There are good tuning options with these & much better build quality than anything French!

Focus ST170 is good too but that economy may be an issue, as already mentioned.

Olivera

8,760 posts

268 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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Both Ibiza and Leon Cupra's should get 35mpg on a (very) gentle motorway run. The 1.8t is a decent engine but dynamically either of these would get spanked by all the non-VAG cars that you have listed.

robsco

7,875 posts

205 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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Are you open to suggestions? If so, how about an Alfa 147 2.0 Twin Spark? Would 150bhp be sufficient?

GenePoolReject13

1,970 posts

218 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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If you were really keen on having a focus then a standard 2.0l is the best option. Suprisingly brisk and will return 40mpg on a run. Have been told by those who have driven both that the st170 just isn't that impressive compared To a 2.0l zetec. Quicker yes but not quick enough to be worth the extra outlay.

Edited by GenePoolReject13 on Tuesday 22 March 23:49

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

83 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2011
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I am open to suggestions and I do like Alfas I shall investigate, do you know what the mpg is like?

That's a good shout with the 2.0 focus actually, I hadn't thought about it as I was trying to retain a degree of PH'ness with the 170 smile

I guess I need to sit down and calculate exactly what the BM is achieving and therefore what gains can be made by switching, I just dont think the E30 likes stop/start in traffic or driving round london in general it seems to really drink then, I know most cars will drink more in this scenario but I am assuming a smaller more modern engine will have at least some benefits

sat1983

1,253 posts

213 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2011
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Lupo GTI

Fits all criterias. It's not all about BHP- it's about how light the car is!