Is this a con?
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Shurze

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101 posts

224 months

Wednesday 6th April 2011
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I can normally spot them pretty quickly, but this has got me thinking... I enquired about a car advertised on gumtree and this is the response I got back:

Seller said:
Hi Ben,

I must apologize for the delay in the response to your email, but I am literally overwhelmed by the number of offers I have received in the last 12 hours.The car it's in perfect condition inside and outside never been implicated in accidents,37000k milles,2 keys.I never smoke in it and i want to sell it to a serious person. The car is located in UK, i have the full service history and V5 present.The price that i'm asking for the car is £2400.Probably you are wondering why i am selling it for such a low price, because the market price for right handed vehicles is low here in Germany and having a lower price than the UK market will bring me a buyer faster than having a high one.

I am a manager and i am working at 2 project in Berlin/Germany and i need a car here,I already found one but i need to sell the one from UK.

car description:

In-Car Audio: AM/FM Stereo, CD Player, Premium Sound System

Safety Features: Alarm, Anti-Lock Brakes (ABS), Driver Airbag, Electronic Stability Program (ESP), Immobiliser, Passenger Airbag, Rear seat belts, Safety Belt Pretensioners

Interior/Comfort Options: Air Conditioning, Climate Control, Power-assisted Steering (PAS), Power Locks, Power Windows, Tilt Steering Wheel


p.s. car it's in perfect conditions inside and outside never been implicated in accidents, deal will be face to face
Now, it has all the usual signs telling me to stay away.. But then it says that the deal would be face to face?
What do you guys think?

Chrisw666

22,655 posts

228 months

Wednesday 6th April 2011
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Just read the email again, and list the number of people you know who use language in that way.

I would guess it comes to less than one. In which case you have your answer.

trickywoo

14,151 posts

259 months

Wednesday 6th April 2011
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"The car it's in perfect condition"

I've seen that exact phrasing used before.

Just doesn't feel right.

I'd guess the face to face offer would vanish at the last minute due to some unforseen issue.

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

284 months

Wednesday 6th April 2011
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Shurze said:
Now, it has all the usual signs telling me to stay away.. But then it says that the deal would be face to face?
What do you guys think?
Several large faces will face your face, steal your cash and piddle off...

That's what I think...

Rawwr

22,722 posts

263 months

Wednesday 6th April 2011
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I'd be more worried about the 37,000,000 miles on the clock hehe

Hackney

7,429 posts

237 months

Wednesday 6th April 2011
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If he's so overwhelmed with offers why hasn't he taken any of them?

Presumably you'd be asked to turn up for this face to face with cash?
And he's in Germany?


wiliferus

4,214 posts

227 months

Wednesday 6th April 2011
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Scam IMO, just from the grammer 'has never been implicated in any accidents' and similar bits.

I wouldn't be happy and walk away from that one i'm afraid.

adycav

7,615 posts

246 months

Wednesday 6th April 2011
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If you have to ask, it usually is.

varsas

4,075 posts

231 months

Wednesday 6th April 2011
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Normally the slightly odd sentence structure would put me off, but obviously English isn't his first language (in which case he writes very well).

Assuming the car is/was registered in Germany (is it?)

Do cars get recorded stolen/written off etc in Germany the same way they do here? Obviously doing a UK check won't tell you, I'd guess you'd want to do checks in Germany and wherever the car came from.

I suppose you need to teach yourself about the equivalent of the German V5C?

But no, doesn't seem too bad to me. If the deal is done face to face and you have checked the car isn't stolen/written off I can't see how you lose out.

Check the person selling it is the registered keeper as listed on the V5C!

marshalla

15,902 posts

230 months

Wednesday 6th April 2011
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varsas

4,075 posts

231 months

Wednesday 6th April 2011
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marshalla said:
oh.

Shurze

Original Poster:

101 posts

224 months

Wednesday 6th April 2011
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Ahh, cheers guys! I will have to keep looking then, gumtree seems to have more scammers than anywhere I have seen before.. Maybe I will stop looking there in the future

george h

14,714 posts

193 months

Wednesday 6th April 2011
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He seems pretty keen to let you know it definetly hasn't been in an accident.

littleredrooster

6,371 posts

225 months

Wednesday 6th April 2011
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wiliferus said:
just from the grammer...
rofl
The biter bitten....

AdeTuono

7,626 posts

256 months

Wednesday 6th April 2011
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varsas said:
Normally the slightly odd sentence structure would put me off, but obviously English isn't his first language (in which case he writes very well).

Assuming the car is/was registered in Germany (is it?)

Do cars get recorded stolen/written off etc in Germany the same way they do here? Obviously doing a UK check won't tell you, I'd guess you'd want to do checks in Germany and wherever the car came from.

I suppose you need to teach yourself about the equivalent of the German V5C?

But no, doesn't seem too bad to me. If the deal is done face to face and you have checked the car isn't stolen/written off I can't see how you lose out.

Check the person selling it is the registered keeper as listed on the V5C!



Are you being serious?

spaceship

924 posts

204 months

Wednesday 6th April 2011
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I'd say it's a con.

I recently emailed a seller on here about a Meriva which seemed to be very cheap for the year/mileage. When he got back to me, the car was in England but he was in Holland I think it was and was, as he put it "ready to travel back to the UK to do a deal".

Surprisingly enough I didn't reply.

Gareth79

9,023 posts

275 months

Wednesday 6th April 2011
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Shurze said:
But then it says that the deal would be face to face?
A lot of them say that sort of thing these days, but at some point (when you are hooked) it will inevitably end up with you sending some somebody some money.

The other possibility is that you turn up to buy the car and get robbed.

Tonto

2,983 posts

277 months

Wednesday 6th April 2011
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Friend of mine (stupidly) responded last year to an Ad from Germany very similar to this. Unfortunately, he is now many thousands of £'s worse off. The police said that they had been contacted by 34 other people who had been scammed by the same outfit.

Stitch

933 posts

246 months

Wednesday 6th April 2011
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Doesn't sound right at all.

Wants to sell it to a serious person - WTF?

Car is in the UK but selling it cheap becasue there is no market for RHD in Germany - WTF?

Main question though is - at £2,400 asking price, how much under the market price is the car?

Answer to that question will tell you all.

TDutchy

661 posts

224 months

Wednesday 6th April 2011
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marshalla said:
I love PH!