Poll: Second cars
Total Members Polled: 51
Discussion
mrmr96 said:
Ok, but it still depends. I do 50miles/day to work (appx). Fun car does 18-20mpg. Daily car does 38-45mpg. Saves well over £150/mth.
OK, about 150 miles per week. Daily doing 50mpg, fun car doing 25mpg. If fuel goes to 150ppl. I would rather look forward to a weekend's worth of hooning than have to be careful all week. I can't imagine many situations when it wouldn't be a benefit? Then again, it depends how unfriendly your fun car is to the wallet, and your commuting distance. A fun car could be a Fabia VRS, but the daily hack could be a BMW 740i. The saving will be dependent on the difference between cars, no?
The KA i just bought will do us for a daily, whilst it frees up the conscience to buy what ever it wants
It saves me £250 p/m over the old, clapped out 9-5 I just gave up on. Not to mention I can fix anything on it, and get a fair bit of change from repairs. I'll be 21 in July, I hope to get something interesting in the Winter, but the second car is essential for insurance purposes, daily running, dependability... the list goes on. Even if you save £50, it surely warrants the running of two cars? I guess there is a bigger picture though.
The KA i just bought will do us for a daily, whilst it frees up the conscience to buy what ever it wants
It saves me £250 p/m over the old, clapped out 9-5 I just gave up on. Not to mention I can fix anything on it, and get a fair bit of change from repairs. I'll be 21 in July, I hope to get something interesting in the Winter, but the second car is essential for insurance purposes, daily running, dependability... the list goes on. Even if you save £50, it surely warrants the running of two cars? I guess there is a bigger picture though. JeS10 said:
Even if you save £50, it surely warrants the running of two cars? I guess there is a bigger picture though.
No, saving £50 per month wouldn't be worth it to me, because for £50 per month I'd rather sit in my nice car than my hack. (Although my hack is quite nice now so it's not an issue.) But for example I'd pay £50 a month to be able to use an MX5 everyday rather than a KA everyday. But part of that depends how much £50 is worth to you. I'd draw the line at about £300 between MX5 and KA. But between Scooby and Audi I'd do it just for the comfort factor (and convenience factor) even if there was no saving or a small cost.Jasandjules said:
Sorry, I don't really understand the question. You buy a toy, then you work around that to get a car that you use for the station/commuting/B&Q/Tesco etc..
OK, I buy a toy but running it to and from work limits the seriously fun use at weekends, trackdays etc.I have calculated what I think I would save in using a 50mpg car as a daily rather than my 25-28mpg car after servicing/insurance etc.
The question is "How much do you have to save to justify running the second car so that you can limit the use of your fun car to actual fun?"
You may reply "If you have calculated what you would save and are happy with it, then do it." That's fine and I may well do, but I am looking for insight from those with experience.
yonex said:
Why would you want to justify a 'fun' car?
I don't need to justify the fun car. The second car would need to justify itself with the saving made on running the fun car as a daily unless you've modified it beyond a reliable level the GT should be a great car for everything. Performance, fun, reliabilty etc. I'm sure you've worked it out but I'd only buy a second car if reliabity, Depreciation(due to high milage) or impracticaliy was a problem. The fuel you'll save will soon be ofset by the running costs ie insurance, tax, repairs, depriciation,
mrmr96 said:
No, saving £50 per month wouldn't be worth it to me, because for £50 per month I'd rather sit in my nice car than my hack. (Although my hack is quite nice now so it's not an issue.) But for example I'd pay £50 a month to be able to use an MX5 everyday rather than a KA everyday. But part of that depends how much £50 is worth to you. I'd draw the line at about £300 between MX5 and KA. But between Scooby and Audi I'd do it just for the comfort factor (and convenience factor) even if there was no saving or a small cost.
I agree actually, £50 wouldn't warrant it. I'm a penniless student, with a commute... to be fair
My £250 saving per month running the KA-ck, will net me a nice sum to spend on something 'fun'. Whether I run the 'fun' car more than the KA doesn't matter to me. Depends what side of the bed I wake up on/which has fuel in it, which is warmer/colder *list numerous variables* probably. I have timed getting the KA-ck with getting a better job, 28hrs per week, whilst still studying too, so the saving will be exaggerated. If I do all this and end up not getting something fun though, i'll be pissed.
I was verging on devils advocate though. I look at it more in terms of things you could do without, like cutting back on unnecessary daily expenses, in terms of food, coffees etc.
jamie g said:
unless you've modified it beyond a reliable level the GT should be a great car for everything. Performance, fun, reliabilty etc. I'm sure you've worked it out but I'd only buy a second car if reliabity, Depreciation(due to high milage) or impracticaliy was a problem. The fuel you'll save will soon be ofset by the running costs ie insurance, tax, repairs, depriciation,
It has a few modifications, but none that make it inelligable for daily duty so for the time being, it doesn't warrant buying a snotter. What I am trying to guage is at what point do I consider a snotter to limit the monthly costs of the GT4.Should anything break, you are limited with what can be done to get it roadworthy again. You either put it in the garage and pay whatever sum they call back with. Or if you can DIY it, you urgently buy parts in (possibly more than you need) and then face the challenge to have it fixed in time to drive to work on Monday.
That's just the way it is, but knowing you have another vehicle without relying on someone else means the pressure of having to fix it is off and it can be fixed when ready.
From a purely selfish emotional stand point...Driving a sensible car depresses me a great deal. So I refuse to do it. Hence why my MX5 has done 36k since I bought it in March last year.
For me any cost saving from doing my 80-100 miles to work & back each day isn't worth it for the drab feeling I'd get from getting into something I don't enjoy driving.
Which is why the LS400 I bought 6 months hasn't been started for the past 2 months & is left gathering dust...Sod the expense, it's all about the grin I get when I get to where I'm going in a car I adore
Just hope the incoming Z4 can give me even an inkling of that same magic.
For me any cost saving from doing my 80-100 miles to work & back each day isn't worth it for the drab feeling I'd get from getting into something I don't enjoy driving.
Which is why the LS400 I bought 6 months hasn't been started for the past 2 months & is left gathering dust...Sod the expense, it's all about the grin I get when I get to where I'm going in a car I adore
Just hope the incoming Z4 can give me even an inkling of that same magic.
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