What is the best handling Diesel road car you can buy £5000
What is the best handling Diesel road car you can buy £5000
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eggbutt

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6 posts

185 months

Wednesday 20th April 2011
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I need help finding the best handling diesel car there is.Im looking for a Fast afordable (under £5000)cheap(ish) to run but most important great handling diesel road car.
Its one of those hard questions to find an answer for without driving every car fast or round a track.I havent own that many different cars but love driving and i should change my car more often but i always get to attached to my car and end up keeping it for years.I currently own a Honda Civic Aerodeck 1.8vts estate,its quite nippy but the handling is a bit soft and it is a bit too pricey to fuel (27mpg).Im yearning for the great handling i used to feel in my 106 rallye S2.So if anyone can recommend a great handling diesel It would be very much appreciated.
Cheers

Matt UK

18,084 posts

229 months

Wednesday 20th April 2011
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A BMW e46 330d is a great handling diesel road car, but won't feel anything like your 106 Rallye I'm afraid.

RobM77

35,349 posts

263 months

Wednesday 20th April 2011
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I'd say a 320d. I can't think of anything else that comes close to be honest. They've got a lovely balance, good throttle response, a nice revvy engine (designed to feel like a petrol), and because at £5k it's secondhand it's important to people like us that most of them left the factory with quite humble wheels and tyres, which is the optimal configuration for a smooth progressive drive. I've got an E92 320d and it drives beautifully - I much prefer it through the corners to all the other 3 series models bar the M3 (which is in a different league).

Edited to add - I saw you have a 106 Rallye. A 320d is going to feel very different biggrin Good handling is not a universal term really. A 320d is satisfying, but nowhere near as smile-per-mile and chuckable as the 106. Different cars really, but both have "good" handling.

AlpineWhite

2,164 posts

224 months

Wednesday 20th April 2011
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Fabia vRS might be worth looking at. I'm not going to pretend it's the last word in handling but it can be an entertaining little car, for what it is.

RobCrezz

7,892 posts

237 months

Wednesday 20th April 2011
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Mk1.5 focus 1.8 tdci zetec. Not the fastest, but surprisingly entertaining!

jinkster

2,418 posts

185 months

Wednesday 20th April 2011
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Diesel MINI of course!


ambuletz

11,751 posts

210 months

Wednesday 20th April 2011
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seat ibiza cupra/FR. 1.9TDI with 130hp, can be mapped to 200hp or more? (i dont know for sure). should handle excellently. rather firm ride though.

eggbutt

Original Poster:

6 posts

185 months

Wednesday 20th April 2011
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Wow 6 replies in 10 mins Thanks for your suggestions.I have already looked at most of those cars on paper.I was just looking at the bmw 330 and 320 on autotrader but to be honest I am really looking for something that is similar to the rallye in the way it handels if there is such a car.

Matt UK

18,084 posts

229 months

Thursday 21st April 2011
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If you have got £5k to spend, could you not buy a Rallye and use the change to pay for the extra fuel costs?

kiwifraser

4,388 posts

223 months

Thursday 21st April 2011
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Cupra FR is a good shout...

mft

1,752 posts

251 months

Thursday 21st April 2011
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I've never driven a 106, but the Fabia vRS can be great fun in a scrabbly FWD way. My Mum's got one and I was surprised how great it was coming back over the Cat & Fiddle road one wet winter night last Christmas - really enjoyable! smile

eggbutt

Original Poster:

6 posts

185 months

Thursday 21st April 2011
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Matt that is a very good point i would love to buy a rallye but they are very rare i am also on the look out for a good condition 106 gti,but i would like to find a good diesel that will last me a few years.I will have another look at the ibiza and the fabia cheers.

velocemitch

4,019 posts

249 months

Thursday 21st April 2011
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An old 306 D-Turbo, would be a good compromise not totally unlike your 106 but a bigger for longer trips. Cheap too

Dino D

1,953 posts

250 months

Thursday 21st April 2011
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What about a cheap clio diesel (i Think they did 100bhp version) and then upgrade the suspension to the 182 spec?

ewenm

28,506 posts

274 months

Thursday 21st April 2011
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The problem you'll find is that cars like the 106 are lightweight, so less inertia to overcome, so better handling.

Diesels aren't generally designed for flinging around tracks. Couple that with the increasing weight of cars since the 106 was introduced and you'll find the handling characteristics are different. That doesn't mean they are bad, but if you want a car that handles like a 106, get a 106. If you want a diesel that handles well for a diesel look at the BMW suggestions or perhaps a D offering from Peugeot/Renault.

Personally I'd avoid the MINI but you might like them so it might be worth a test drive.

eg Watermelon

79 posts

185 months

Thursday 21st April 2011
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I'm not saying it's the 'best' handling but the Ibiza FR 130 or Cupra 160 is quite fun don't write it off as thinking it's a VAG so therefore dull to drive, much better than a Polo, although they do ride hard.

Also an Alfa 147/156 1.9 JTD 150 handle well. Even the 2.4 JTD in the 156 is a good 'petrol-like' diesel.

HellDiver

5,708 posts

211 months

Thursday 21st April 2011
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Mondeo ST-TDCI.

Chrisw666

22,655 posts

228 months

Thursday 21st April 2011
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You can probably get a Fiesta Zetec S tdci for under £5k, much much better handling than a fabia VRS. On the flip side of that when you're not driving on anything other than an entertaining road the Fabia is the better, comfier, faster car.

But for £5k this would be even better than either of those IMO http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2011...

frosted

3,549 posts

206 months

Thursday 21st April 2011
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Dont think there's many petrol cars that would feel like a 106 rallye let alone a diesel . 27mpg from a petrol car is decent enough . Although I reckon you would get close to 50 from a fast tdi . Golf with at least 130 brake

khevolution

1,594 posts

224 months

Thursday 21st April 2011
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RobCrezz said:
Mk1.5 focus 1.8 tdci zetec. Not the fastest, but surprisingly entertaining!
+1

not biased at all of course